i've never supported forcing vaccines on anyone. i don't agree with vaccine mandates, i never have, and i really was upset about the cowardice to attempt to force people to take them via the backdoor use of the general duty clause of osha. that was complete crap, along with treating covid cases as recordables.
i think it would be surprising if the vaccines hadn't harmed people. all medicines have side effects. the flu vaccine likely causes fatal cases of guillain-barre every year (1-2 cases per million doses, 150 million doses per year, 3-5% of cases are fatal). it's really sad, and i don't mean that in a glib way at all. it's roulette with a crazy low odds of hitting on the round, but it is still there. do you think that is sufficient reason to not have flu vaccines?
if you say no, is it because you don't care about those people who will die each year from guillain-barre? no.
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It doesn't and has never stopped transmission or infection. It has only lessened the infection for most.
you're stating this as fact, when the available medical evidence comes to the opposite conclusion. continuing with the example above, it is much better than the annual flu vaccine.
there are many people who will testify that many vaccines over the past fifty years caused many harms or deaths. their stories are emotional and heartbreaking and i wouldn't wish that on anyone. and yet, their testimony is not in and of itself evidence.
i think it's a statement of fact that measles don't cause autism. you may or may not believe that, i don't know. but i'm sure you can find someone who does, and if they're a parent of a child who is autistic their pain is real - but that doesn't make their conclusion correct.
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Most of the "experts" who are on the opposing side of your argument have been forced onto sites like Rumble, b/c they've been labeled as spreaders of misinformation by social media moderation (perhaps you should be asking if they are the best at determining what is misinformation and what isn't).
am i obligated to defend google because i disagree with you on this? i don't agree with censorship - though there are plenty on this site who are more than willing to shout
me down when they disagree. i'm happy to have an insult-free discussion with anyone.
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you have spent hours and hours defending these vaccines.
yes. because i believe that truth is important, and that being able to have discussions where people can come together and improve each other through discussion is important. i think that a general abandoning of this practice is the sign of an incredibly sick electorate. in the end what is and isn't true is not a matter of opinion. all of us have an obligation based on our personal political agency to attempt to arrive at the truth to the best of our ability. people shouldn't be so reticent to engage people who disagree with them. i have learned a lot from these discussions, and several times have had people PM me to introduce themselves or talk further. isn't that what this forum is for?
why is what i do any different than what samurai does? are you going to go and chastise him for spending hours attacking the vaccines?