This is a really emotional issue for you, and that makes it difficult to have a discussion. You don't seem to be able to do anything other than analyze my motives - usually for the worse.
Her sons grandmother took him to get the shot without mom’s permission so he could play sports. His school had mandated it. He now has heart damage and can’t play sports. Doc said he could have heart attack if he did.
— Nashville Angela (@angelanashtn) January 16, 2023
*There are some F bombs in video…pic.twitter.com/07YMj9AxDU
And yet you keep telling me how emotional I am. GMAFB.Zobel said:
If you read carefully I spend my time on this topic engaging with truth claims, ie, this happened or this paper said x or vaccines do y. As far as I can remember I don't think I've ever said that someone should or shouldn't get vaccinated.
This is a really emotional issue for you, and that makes it difficult to have a discussion. You don't seem to be able to do anything other than analyze my motives - usually for the worse.
captkirk said:Her sons grandmother took him to get the shot without mom’s permission so he could play sports. His school had mandated it. He now has heart damage and can’t play sports. Doc said he could have heart attack if he did.
— Nashville Angela (@angelanashtn) January 16, 2023
*There are some F bombs in video…pic.twitter.com/07YMj9AxDU
Zobel said:
Every post in this exchange has more or less been you berating me about what I should or shouldn't care about, or my intentions, and more or less calling me a liar. That's not exactly an argument on the merits. Like you said, probably best to leave it be.
Because those of us with a science degree knew that the common cold is a coronavirus, like Covid 19. We also knew that'd it mutate rapidly and even though it would be more contagious, it would weaken itself. We also knew that masks are tard flare against an airborne respiratory virus, that's why I never complied. There was never any justification to inject that bs 'vaccine', especially in children and dumbass horrible parents are the ones that made their kids lab rats and betrayed them.Old McDonald said:
at this point most people in the US have probably had covid. most people have also gotten the covid vaccine. why the tendency to blame only the latter for these incidents?
We do? I've not seen compelling evidence that its a side effect of CovidQuote:
we know heart issues (i.e. myocarditis) are a rare side effect of both covid and the vaccine
maybe someone should do a study instead of so many people ignoring & dismissing everyone who dies suddenly and defending and still pushing the vaccines.Old McDonald said:
we know heart issues (i.e. myocarditis) are a rare side effect of both covid and the vaccine, albeit to varying extents. what makes people so sure these "died suddenly" incidents are related to long term side effects of the vaccine and not covid itself?
captkirk said:We do? I've not seen compelling evidence that its a side effect of CovidQuote:
we know heart issues (i.e. myocarditis) are a rare side effect of both covid and the vaccine
It is not a side effect of the WuFlu.Old McDonald said:
we know heart issues (i.e. myocarditis) are a rare side effect of both covid and the vaccine, albeit to varying extents. what makes people so sure these "died suddenly" incidents are related to long term side effects of the vaccine and not covid itself?
any insight on the incidence of myocarditis from the vaccine vs from covid? i recall from earlier in the pandemic evidence that the incidence was higher in the latterZobel said:
so, i looked a bit more and found a third review paper which seems to be relevant to the discussions here, which is cardiac complications in low-risk patients (like kids). one observations from this review of the literature is that normal risk factors for heart disease (obesity, diabetes, etc) may not be good at predicting covid complications, which means myocarditis is "a genuine threat to younger adults without comorbidities."
https://www.mdpi.com/1999-4915/14/6/1322
baader meinhofoh no said:
That settles it then. Everyone can now go ahead and forget about all the #diedsuddenly instances you see daily on your timelines and go boost themselves.
Not really. The leftists here will always take whatever position they think is the opposite of what conservatives here believe. They also are fully conditioned to accept whatever the government says is true, as long as it is a Democrat saying it. They are not capable of any independent thought.geoag58 said:
Isn't it funny that the same people that said therapeutics don't work, the non- vaxxed are killing us, take the jab or lose your job are the same ones now saying just because there is data showing increases in vaccine related problems, nothing to see here?
Old McDonald said:
at this point most people in the US have probably had covid. most people have also gotten the covid vaccine. why the tendency to blame only the latter for these incidents?
Okay, this is just funny no matter your politics. https://t.co/Vkl8VO28LZ
— Scott Adams (@ScottAdamsSays) January 17, 2023
https://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/article/randy-lemon-gardening-17696297.phpQuote:
A Houston radio station is mourning the loss of one of its beloved hosts. Randy Lemmon, a longtime host of the GardenLine program on NewsRadio 740 KTRH, died on Wednesday from complications due to a stroke, according to an announcement from the show on Facebook. Lemmon, 61, passed away at Mt. Sinai Hospital in New York City surrounded by his family.
"That is perfectly normal my brother in big pharma. Little kids have heart problems suddenly arise out of nowhere and can't play youth sports all the time. It is actually very normal, you just weren't paying attention." /fully vaxxed and boosted white liberal male feministscaptkirk said:Her sons grandmother took him to get the shot without mom’s permission so he could play sports. His school had mandated it. He now has heart damage and can’t play sports. Doc said he could have heart attack if he did.
— Nashville Angela (@angelanashtn) January 16, 2023
*There are some F bombs in video…pic.twitter.com/07YMj9AxDU
I don't get the reference to Baader Meinhofoh no said:
As long as everyone keeps ignoring all who die suddenly and no studies are called for, we can just move along and assume it's just baader meinhof.
I sincerely hope not. I would guess at least 70% of the people I know got the vaccine because they were pressured, or are older than 60 and had been told for so long they were at risk and should get it...and I pretty much only associate with conservatives. Praying that things subside and don't get any worse.captkirk said:
geoag58 said:
Isn't it funny that the same people that said therapeutics don't work, the non- vaxxed are killing us, take the jab or lose your job are the same ones now saying just because there is data showing increases in vaccine related problems, nothing to see here?
TeslAg is STV, fyi.Brittmoore Car Club said:I sincerely hope not. I would guess at least 70% of the people I know got the vaccine because they were pressured, or are older than 60 and had been told for so long they were at risk and should get it...and I pretty much only associate with conservatives. Praying that things subside and don't get any worse.captkirk said:
F the "science" though...the "science" has been wrong way more often than it has been right these past few years, both when it comes to the manmade lab leaked virus and the vaccines. I am trusting my eyes on all of the stuff we are seeing lately. We are on our own when it comes to finding truth and good info. We are in uncharted territory and my worst fear (even moreso than the heart issues, which are relatively rare) is that this is wreaking havoc on peoples' immune systems, and that is only getting started.
Lastly, is Zobel fka Salute The Marines (Vaccine)??? Has to be, right? He always goaltended with an almost religious zeal.