At what point do people start losing it? Most don't have power and all of Houston is without water. Hell, my wife is working at TCH and they don't even have water. Things could get ugly.
I do understand the intent/sales pitch, and full disclosure, I have Nest thermostats. But even there, the real intent is to give big brother a hand to 'help' efficiently set your temperature (and it is a bit pernicious about sneaking in and changing the settings.) To the extent a 'smart' meter eliminates the need for monthly meter maid checks, I support it fully, but regulating throughput is a likely end state, and it wouldn't stop just where I listed it, think about your power also being limited if you bought too much ammo etc.H2Ag said:I have a little experience with these in the past. All smart meters don't have a remote disconnect feature. It was available at extra cost years ago. a lot of the utilities opted not to install. Load management is supposed to be one of the benefits of "Smart Grid". Seems to me a path to less painful outages in the future. Nortex is right though. Doubt the regulators will keep their greedy hands out of the cookie jarnortex97 said:Then the next step is to have your social media score evaluated into the equation as well (facebook/twitter/google etc), and let the government determine if your social/environmental contribution warrant the kilowatt hours you have been consuming. For that matter, if you should be allowed to have/charge a new phone at all.Whitetail said:
Smart meters...If 10,000 people on a grid were judged as who used the most to who used the least...and say each were given a score 1-10...could the utility turn off all the 9's and 10's by meter?
That would be one way to do it where the least number of homes are affected.
That's what China does, and it works well for them, per Xiden. What could possibly go wrong?
LostInLA07 said:
Interested to see the explanation
I agree with you in that this complaint about wind power won't solve this current situation but it is relevant to how we got into this situation.htxag09 said:richardag said:The unreliability of gas, coal and nuclear can be mitigated, the unreliable wind can not be mitigated since it relies on wind which is very inconsistent at best in most of the world.htxag09 said:
That's fine and dandy. I'm against wind energy as well. But it's simply irrelevant to use this time to explain how wind energy is unreliable. All our energy is apparently unreliable and it's just kicking the can down the road and not holding those responsible who should be.
This is my point. I agree. However, politicians and people screaming this now is absolutely asinine. "Wind power is unreliable!!" Meanwhile our current thermal power system is failing at epic magnitudes. You're not wrong, but it's not relevant to what's going on. It's kicking the can down the road for the actual issues that caused this mess.
No argument with that.Zobel said:
We use gas to mitigate the unreliability of wind. Our dispatch power failed.
richardag said:The unreliability of gas, coal and nuclear can be mitigated, the unreliable wind can not be mitigated since it relies on wind which is very inconsistent at best in most of the world.htxag09 said:
That's fine and dandy. I'm against wind energy as well. But it's simply irrelevant to use this time to explain how wind energy is unreliable. All our energy is apparently unreliable and it's just kicking the can down the road and not holding those responsible who should be.
SECTAMU#1 said:
I have been told by a reliable source that Highland Park and University Park have had zero rolling blackouts.
If true, I'd be interested in why?
LostInLA07 said:
Probably on a circuit with a hospital or some other essential load.
SECTAMU#1 said:
I have been told by a reliable source that Highland Park and University Park have had zero rolling blackouts.
If true, I'd be interested in why?
Zobel said:
Some of that might be a plant that is online but not loaded. You can't bring a steam plant to full load instantly. Thermal expansion can be a problem. Some are 1% per minute or something like that. So the plant is online, maybe 600MW or more showing as capacity, but it may not be able to be loaded for a couple hours.
Maybe.
My oldest brother had a generator he used for welding that was mounted on the back of a truck. We also had a generator that you would hook up to the PTO on a tractor. Either of those were enough to handle the farm.Tanya 93 said:
Out of curiosity, how long and what can you run on a generator?
Do you put it in the back of your truck to fill or does it take a lot of gas cans?
I too have spoken to someone in HP, and their electricity only comes on every eight hours for about an hour at a time.aginlakeway said:SECTAMU#1 said:
I have been told by a reliable source that Highland Park and University Park have had zero rolling blackouts.
If true, I'd be interested in why?
I just spoke with someone who lives in HP but has no power.
JayHowdy! said:I too have spoken to someone in HP, and their electricity only comes on every eight hours for about an hour at a time.aginlakeway said:SECTAMU#1 said:
I have been told by a reliable source that Highland Park and University Park have had zero rolling blackouts.
If true, I'd be interested in why?
I just spoke with someone who lives in HP but has no power.
itsyourboypookie said:
They are hauling coal to oak grove power plant down hwy 7 by kosse.
With the 175 ton dump trucks they mine with #getherdone
itsyourboypookie said:
They are hauling coal to oak grove power plant down hwy 7 by kosse.
With the 175 ton dump trucks they mine with #getherdone
hbc07 said:
After having power for only about 1-2 hours ever 8 hours, we've had power in Carrollton now since 7am (knock on wood). Not sure what changed or how we got away from the "**** this particular area" curse that we had, but I'm thankful.
However, now I have a Pavlovian response that anytime I hear something click or I blink in a weird way I think that the power went out and go into survival mode.
SECTAMU#1 said:
I have been told by a reliable source that Highland Park and University Park have had zero rolling blackouts.
If true, I'd be interested in why?
Kenneth_2003 said:itsyourboypookie said:
They are hauling coal to oak grove power plant down hwy 7 by kosse.
With the 175 ton dump trucks they mine with #getherdone
Where do they normally get their coal from? I thought coal thermal kept 30 days of fuel on hand
Would have expected this earlier, but better late than never. In Abbott's defense he may not have known until today, but someone did and should have spoken op ASAPCharpie said:
WTF would we be selling outside of Texas?