*** THE BATMAN ***

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What Silky said.

Flip phones, not smart phones.
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Brian Earl Spilner said:

Duncan Idaho said:

There are iPhones. So I guess present day
It's weird to think that in The Dark Knight, smartphones weren't a thing yet.

It feels like such a modern / recent movie, but this one thing dates it for kids today.
Plus they didn't have spell check at the Gotham Times yet.



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TCTTS said:

Phenomenal breakdown of the trailer, with so much insight into the plot, from just a couple minutes of footage...


He loses all credibility for saying the Court of Owls is from The Long Halloween. The CoO wasn't even created until 15 years after TLH was published
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Brian Earl Spilner said:

What Silky said.

Flip phones, not smart phones.
Looked rather like a rectangular device much like an iPhone, not some flip phone.
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This is why I think The Batman will be a better Batman movie (just on what we've seen so far) than Nolan's movies.

I don't know if it'll be a better overall movie, but I believe it'll be more faithful to the source.
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Bruce Almighty said:

That trailer is just awesome. It looks like it could have been made in 1995. It has that very dark neo noir video that the 90s was obsessed with. Very Seven / Crow like.
Funny how that can be both a compliment and a problem. That was my problem with Leto's Joker, it looked like what someone would have thought was edgy in 1998.
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Cinco Ranch Aggie said:

Brian Earl Spilner said:

What Silky said.

Flip phones, not smart phones.
Looked rather like a rectangular device much like an iPhone, not some flip phone.
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Brian Earl Spilner said:

Cinco Ranch Aggie said:

Brian Earl Spilner said:

What Silky said.

Flip phones, not smart phones.
Looked rather like a rectangular device much like an iPhone, not some flip phone.

Does not look like a flip phone. Not necessarily an iPhone, but not a damned flip phone.
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Cinco Ranch Aggie said:

Brian Earl Spilner said:

Cinco Ranch Aggie said:

Brian Earl Spilner said:

What Silky said.

Flip phones, not smart phones.
Looked rather like a rectangular device much like an iPhone, not some flip phone.

Does not look like a flip phone. Not necessarily an iPhone, but not a damned flip phone.


Looks more like one of those Nokia brick phones or one of the slider phones that were popular during that time than any sort of iPhone.
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Dude. By flip phone I meant any non-smart type of phone.

Good lord. What a random hill to die on.
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Cinco Ranch Aggie said:

Brian Earl Spilner said:

Cinco Ranch Aggie said:

Brian Earl Spilner said:

What Silky said.

Flip phones, not smart phones.
Looked rather like a rectangular device much like an iPhone, not some flip phone.

Does not look like a flip phone. Not necessarily an iPhone, but not a damned flip phone.
Looks like an iPod Classic.
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TCTTS said:

Batman Begins and The Dark Knight are damn near flawless. But, IMO, The Dark Knight Rises is the blemish that opens up the *possibility* that this iteration could potentially overtake the Nolan trilogy one day. Granted, I recently rewatched TDKR, and it's better on the fifth or so go around, as its flaws can be more easily forgiven all these years later, but it definitely tainted the sheen of Nolan's efforts a bit. I don't know that anything will ever top TDK, or Ledger's performance, but as a whole, the Reeves films at least have a shot at overcoming the Nolan films, if only because of TKDR.


Can you expand on your issues with DKR? I KNOW I'm in the minority, but that was my favorite of the Nolan trilogy.
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It felt rushed
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Looks like a Razr closed with a lit screen

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Living Legend said:

TCTTS said:

Batman Begins and The Dark Knight are damn near flawless. But, IMO, The Dark Knight Rises is the blemish that opens up the *possibility* that this iteration could potentially overtake the Nolan trilogy one day. Granted, I recently rewatched TDKR, and it's better on the fifth or so go around, as its flaws can be more easily forgiven all these years later, but it definitely tainted the sheen of Nolan's efforts a bit. I don't know that anything will ever top TDK, or Ledger's performance, but as a whole, the Reeves films at least have a shot at overcoming the Nolan films, if only because of TKDR.


Can you expand on your issues with DKR? I KNOW I'm in the minority, but that was my favorite of the Nolan trilogy.
worst death scene:


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Basically, what hedge said. It felt like two movies stuffed into one.

I love Wayne-as-Howard-Hughes, and the whole thing with him having to get back in the game after such a long absence.

I love Anne Hathaway's Catwoman.

I love Tom Hardy's Bane.

I love a lot of the broad ideas, action sequences, and imagery.

But Wayne suddenly falling for Miranda Tate like he does, after inexplicably losing his fortune in a plot contrivance that makes no sense, is all pretty bad and incredibly forced. Jospeh Gordon-Levitt's character guessing that Wayne is Batman because of a facial expression is dumb. Nearly every single police officer in Gotham being trapped underground for months was eye-rolling. And Bane's prison having cable still gives me a good chuckle. Then the last scene with Alfred seeing Bruce at the cafe is so telegraphed, and such a rip-off of Good Will Hunting, that I could see it coming from a mile away.

TDKR was the rare blockbuster that *should* have been split into two parts. So many of the movie's issues could have been addressed with more time. Part one should have ended with Bane breaking Batman's back, blowing up the stadium, and locking down Gotham. Leave it on a dark cliffhanger, and spend more time in the lead-up believably developing Bruce's and Miranda's relationship, ruining Wayne financially, etc. Then part two would be all about Wayne escaping Bane's prison, and then showing how, exactly, he got back into Gotham, etc. Apparently that entire plot line was written but never shot due to obvious time constraints. But making a big chunk of the second act of a part two about Wayne actually infiltrating Gotham again could have been so awesome, and wouldn't have led to such a disjointed, weirdly paced movie as-is.
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Flashdiaz said:

Living Legend said:

TCTTS said:

Batman Begins and The Dark Knight are damn near flawless. But, IMO, The Dark Knight Rises is the blemish that opens up the *possibility* that this iteration could potentially overtake the Nolan trilogy one day. Granted, I recently rewatched TDKR, and it's better on the fifth or so go around, as its flaws can be more easily forgiven all these years later, but it definitely tainted the sheen of Nolan's efforts a bit. I don't know that anything will ever top TDK, or Ledger's performance, but as a whole, the Reeves films at least have a shot at overcoming the Nolan films, if only because of TKDR.


Can you expand on your issues with DKR? I KNOW I'm in the minority, but that was my favorite of the Nolan trilogy.
worst death scene:



I'm still mad about that portrayal of Talia.
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Hear hear!

Although... put me down as someone that doesn't like Tom Hardy's Bane. Like, at all. He has Yoda voice.
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TCTTS said:

TDKR was the rare blockbuster that *should* have been split into two parts. So many of the movie's issues could have been addressed with more time. Part one should have ended with Bane breaking Batman's back, blowing up the stadium, and locking down Gotham. Leave it on a dark cliffhanger,

Pt 1 - The Dark Knight Falls
(Knightfall is the famous story where Bane broke his back)

Pt 2 - The Dark Knight Rises


Ok, maybe that's a little too on the nose, but it def would've made a better, more cohesive overall story. It was just too convoluted and stuffed. And while I love Nolan, his movies always seem to suffer from his own genius and ambition... They are such grandiose spectacles, with really mindbending and dense plots, but occasionally they just suffer from their own machinations.
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I actually love those titles.

And yeah, you're totally right, re: Nolan. Heck, both Nolan brothers, with Westworld falling victim to the same ambitions.
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He loses all credibility for saying the Court of Owls is from The Long Halloween. The CoO wasn't even created until 15 years after TLH was published

Love Screencrush and the guy is the best in the biz with these... but come on man. How did that get past the editors?
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I hate to even complain, because again its Nolan and his movies are awesome, even when they have those flaws. And considering 90% of blockbusters are pretty lazy and formulaic drivel... I always appreciate his desire to push the narrative envelope and come up with challenging stuff like Interstellar and Tenet. I'll take it any day of the week.
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Agreed.
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https://slate.com/culture/2020/08/batman-fandome-trailer-riddler-riddle-liar-do-when-dead.html

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From the article
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Paul Dano's version of the Riddler appears to draw more from the Zodiac Killer (R-T.X.)
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TCTTS said:

Basically, what hedge said. It felt like two movies stuffed into one.

I love Wayne-as-Howard-Hughes, and the whole thing with him having to get back in the game after such a long absence.

I love Anne Hathaway's Catwoman.

I love Tom Hardy's Bane.

I love a lot of the broad ideas, action sequences, and imagery.

But Wayne suddenly falling for Miranda Tate like he does, after inexplicably losing all his money in a plot contrivance that makes no sense, is all pretty bad and incredibly forced. Jospeh Gordon-Levitt's character guessing that Wayne is Batman because of a facial expression is dumb. Nearly every single police officer in Gotham being trapped underground for months was eye-rolling. And Bane's prison having cable still gives me a good chuckle. Then the last scene with Alfred seeing Bruce at the cafe is so telegraphed, and such a straight rip-off of Good Will Hunting, that I couldn't not see it coming from a mile away.

TDKR was the rare blockbuster that *should* have been split into two parts. So many of the movie's issues could have been addressed with more time. Part one should have ended with Bane breaking Batman's back, blowing up the stadium, and locking down Gotham. Leave it on a dark cliffhanger, and spend more time in the lead-up believably developing Bruce's and Miranda's relationship, ruining Wayne financially, etc. Then part two would be all about Wayne escaping Bane's prison, and then showing how, exactly, he got back into Gotham, etc. Apparently that entire plot line was written but never shot due to obvious time constraints. But making a big chunk of the second act of a part two about Wayne actually infiltrating Gotham again could have been awesome, and wouldn't have led to such a disjointed, weirdly paced movie as-is.
Not a huge fan of Anne Hathaway but I think she's been the best portrayal of Catwoman.
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This isn't official, but damn if it isn't really good...

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I mean... this really has shot up there with Requiem for Tower and the Man of Steel Teasers as one of my favorite teasers/trailers of all time.
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Watched the trailer a few more times and there is a very Daredevil feel to Pattinson's portrayal.
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Flashdiaz said:

Living Legend said:

TCTTS said:

Batman Begins and The Dark Knight are damn near flawless. But, IMO, The Dark Knight Rises is the blemish that opens up the *possibility* that this iteration could potentially overtake the Nolan trilogy one day. Granted, I recently rewatched TDKR, and it's better on the fifth or so go around, as its flaws can be more easily forgiven all these years later, but it definitely tainted the sheen of Nolan's efforts a bit. I don't know that anything will ever top TDK, or Ledger's performance, but as a whole, the Reeves films at least have a shot at overcoming the Nolan films, if only because of TKDR.


Can you expand on your issues with DKR? I KNOW I'm in the minority, but that was my favorite of the Nolan trilogy.
worst death scene:





Begins is awesome (elevated by Neeson). My favorite Batman origin by far. Probably my favorite Batman portrayal as well (Bale did a disguised voice in this one. Not throat cancer).

Dark Knight will always have place on the all time list because of Ledger. Timeless performance and truly scary.

TDKR was crazy hyped and once again the villain was amazing. Don't know if we'll ever get a better Bane. But the plot was weak, way too many conveniences. Reduced Batman to a lovesick idiot that banished Alfred and gave his company away to a one night stand. The Robin thing was forced as well. Not a bad movie but nowhere near as good as the other 2.
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TCTTS said:


https://slate.com/culture/2020/08/batman-fandome-trailer-riddler-riddle-liar-do-when-dead.html




So dumb. You can solve that without actually doing cryptography. HE LIES STILL.
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Wow, nuts how that lines up.
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Well.. Daredevil is red Batman
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TCTTS said:


https://slate.com/culture/2020/08/batman-fandome-trailer-riddler-riddle-liar-do-when-dead.html


First paragraph of the article.

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On Saturday, Warner Bros. released a new trailer for The Batman, the upcoming action film from director Matt Reeves exploring the never-before-told story of an orphaned plutocrat who dresses up in a rubber suit and beats the **** out of street criminals.
 
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