aTmAg said:

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They spend a whole 15 episode season building him up into the ultimate baddie.

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He didn't show up until they went to Barcelona, which is halfway through the season.

Look, it's fine if you liked it. I didn't really care. I personally got tired of the constant switching of dojos, random people showing up that I should care about, etc. I felt like the writing was lazy. However, that's just my opinion. I'm glad you enjoyed the season.

AustinAg2K said:

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aTmAg said:

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They spend a whole 15 episode season building him up into the ultimate baddie.

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He didn't show up until they went to Barcelona, which is halfway through the season.

Look, it's fine if you liked it. I didn't really care. I personally got tired of the constant switching of dojos, random people showing up that I should care about, etc. I felt like the writing was lazy. However, that's just my opinion. I'm glad you enjoyed the season.

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So 7-8 episodes. Still way more than the original movie.

Rudyjax said:

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Can we get back to laughing at Sam running?

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They should have cast that Rayna Vallandingham chick for Sam. The current Sam was like casting 300lb Stephen Segal to walk fatly as a delta force operator.

It's like when I watch actors playing soccer. My kids played soccer an it's a running joke on how bad actors are. They should be at least somewhat athletic.

aTmAg said:

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Rudyjax said:

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Can we get back to laughing at Sam running?

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They should have cast that Rayna Vallandingham chick for Sam. The current Sam was like casting 300lb Stephen Segal to walk fatly as a delta force operator.

It's like when I watch actors playing soccer. My kids played soccer an it's a running joke on how bad actors are. They should be at least somewhat athletic.

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She actually looked more like Daniel and his wife.

Alas, when they cast her 8 years ago, they had no idea she would have weight issues.

I wish they could've brought back Aiesha. That was an odd situation.

Rudyjax said:

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aTmAg said:

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Rudyjax said:

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Can we get back to laughing at Sam running?

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They should have cast that Rayna Vallandingham chick for Sam. The current Sam was like casting 300lb Stephen Segal to walk fatly as a delta force operator.

It's like when I watch actors playing soccer. My kids played soccer an it's a running joke on how bad actors are. They should be at least somewhat athletic.

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She actually looked more like Daniel and his wife.

Alas, when they cast her 8 years ago, they had no idea she would have weight issues.

I wish they could've brought back Aiesha. That was an odd situation.

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What happened to her?

aTmAg said:

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It's like when I watch actors playing soccer. My kids played soccer an it's a running joke on how bad actors are. They should be at least somewhat athletic.

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I'm surprised none of these actors got into Karate/Martial Arts for the show. I mean, it's your career, wouldn't you want to try and become an expert in it? But I guess that's just Hollywood. For whatever reason, an actor will gain 200 pounds for a role, or learn how to do a foreign accent, but ask them spend a week learning how to throw a ball? F' that.

AustinAg2K said:

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aTmAg said:

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It's like when I watch actors playing soccer. My kids played soccer an it's a running joke on how bad actors are. They should be at least somewhat athletic.

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I'm surprised none of these actors got into Karate/Martial Arts for the show. I mean, it's your career, wouldn't you want to try and become an expert in it? But I guess that's just Hollywood. For whatever reason, an actor will gain 200 pounds for a role, or learn how to do a foreign accent, but ask them spend a week learning how to throw a ball? F' that.

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Here's the irony. The only black belt is Mary Mouser. She got it after getting cast.

aTmAg said:

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Rudyjax said:

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aTmAg said:

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Rudyjax said:

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Can we get back to laughing at Sam running?

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They should have cast that Rayna Vallandingham chick for Sam. The current Sam was like casting 300lb Stephen Segal to walk fatly as a delta force operator.

It's like when I watch actors playing soccer. My kids played soccer an it's a running joke on how bad actors are. They should be at least somewhat athletic.

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She actually looked more like Daniel and his wife.

Alas, when they cast her 8 years ago, they had no idea she would have weight issues.

I wish they could've brought back Aiesha. That was an odd situation.

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What happened to her?

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After the big high school fight, she moved to a private school. Would have been good to see her make an appearance.

Rudyjax said:

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AustinAg2K said:

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aTmAg said:

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It's like when I watch actors playing soccer. My kids played soccer an it's a running joke on how bad actors are. They should be at least somewhat athletic.

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I'm surprised none of these actors got into Karate/Martial Arts for the show. I mean, it's your career, wouldn't you want to try and become an expert in it? But I guess that's just Hollywood. For whatever reason, an actor will gain 200 pounds for a role, or learn how to do a foreign accent, but ask them spend a week learning how to throw a ball? F' that.

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Here's the irony. The only black belt is Mary Mouser. She got it after getting cast.

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The previously mentioned Rayna Vallandingham is a 4th degree blackbelt. I agree with an earlier poster that mentioned she should have been made a main character way earlier in the series.

AustinAg2K said:

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aTmAg said:

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It's like when I watch actors playing soccer. My kids played soccer an it's a running joke on how bad actors are. They should be at least somewhat athletic.

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I'm surprised none of these actors got into Karate/Martial Arts for the show. I mean, it's your career, wouldn't you want to try and become an expert in it? But I guess that's just Hollywood. For whatever reason, an actor will gain 200 pounds for a role, or learn how to do a foreign accent, but ask them spend a week learning how to throw a ball? F' that.

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I'm no expert, but I think it's much harder to train yourself to look natural in karate than it is to gain muscle or fat for a role. I know it's that way for soccer. You can tell by the way people kick or trap the ball. I've been watching soccer since my kids started (20+ years ago), and I played football and basketball as a kid. But give me a soccer ball, and it will be obvious that my neurons solidified before I ever touched one. No matter what, I will look like an uncoordinated dork. Meanwhile, throw a soccer ball at my daughter who hasn't touched one in anger since she graduated college (5 years), and you would know instantly that she had played her whole life.

I would think that it's the same with Karate? That even without the flips and stuff, that Rayna Vallandingham girl OBVIOUSLY has done Karate her whole life. And no matter what, none of the main actors would ever catch her.

I will agree with you to a degree though. Just compare William Zabka in the original Karate kid to any primary kid actor in Cobra Kai. It's not even close. Though his moves were not "fancy" he did make it look like he had done it before. I suspect, that he practice the few moves that he did in the tournament a thousand times. So he could do those particular ones well, but not anything else.

Original Karate Kid, the only ones who knew martical artes previous were Rob Garrison (Bobby) and Darryl Vidal. (semi finalist who Johnny beat.)

They brought Vidal back to be the be the referree in the Seikei Takei.
He was also the body double for Myagi and he's the one who figured out how to do the crane kick.

Zabka was a wrestler, and later became a 2nd degree blackbelt.

Probably because people were always challenging him to a fight. (I made that up.)

Yeah, Zabka was a good wrestler in high school which meant he was already a much better athlete than the rest of the cast. Picking up karate was easy at his age

Rudyjax said:

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Original Karate Kid, the only ones who knew martical artes previous were Rob Garrison (Bobby) and Darryl Vidal. (semi finalist who Johnny beat.)

They brought Vidal back to be the be the referree in the Seikei Takei.
He was also the body double for Myagi and he's the one who figured out how to do the crane kick.

Zabka was a wrestler, and later became a 2nd degree blackbelt.

Probably because people were always challenging him to a fight. (I made that up.)

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I don't remember Rob Garrison impressing me, but that Darryl Vidal guy was clearly legit. I remember thinking, "don't worry about Johnny, worry about that guy" when I was watching as a kid.

AustinAg2K said:

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aTmAg said:

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It's like when I watch actors playing soccer. My kids played soccer an it's a running joke on how bad actors are. They should be at least somewhat athletic.

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I'm surprised none of these actors got into Karate/Martial Arts for the show. I mean, it's your career, wouldn't you want to try and become an expert in it? But I guess that's just Hollywood. For whatever reason, an actor will gain 200 pounds for a role, or learn how to do a foreign accent, but ask them spend a week learning how to throw a ball? F' that.

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I'd guess that Karate in real-life is a different thing than fancy Karate that looks good on TV. I've been to my fair share of Taekwondo tournaments and it is very different than this show: everyone wearing head, foot, hand, and body padding, much quicker matches where points happen super fast, no acrobatics, very rare fancy moves that happen all the time in the show.

aTmAg said:

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Rudyjax said:

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Original Karate Kid, the only ones who knew martical artes previous were Rob Garrison (Bobby) and Darryl Vidal. (semi finalist who Johnny beat.)

They brought Vidal back to be the be the referree in the Seikei Takei.
He was also the body double for Myagi and he's the one who figured out how to do the crane kick.

Zabka was a wrestler, and later became a 2nd degree blackbelt.

Probably because people were always challenging him to a fight. (I made that up.)

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I don't remember Rob Garrison impressing me, but that Darryl Vidal guy was clearly legit. I remember thinking, "don't worry about Johnny, worry about that guy" when I was watching as a kid.

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He hid it from them and his black belt was in judo so different.

Fantastic

That's great.

Fantastic finish! Johnny is a bad ass!

I love how this show never pretended to be more than it was. Absolutely ridiculous and extremely awesome.