Agree. Honestly, I think there's a good chance he's on the spectrum to some degree. The social awkwardness, the obsessional focus on certain activities at times, but clearly high functioning and seems to think differently than other players. Maybe he's not entirely on it, but he sure checks some boxes for it. It would explain a fair amount.
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lazuras_dc said:98Ag99Grad said:
Guys at the top played really well and no one folded. .
Morikawa wants to have a chat
It's not like Morikawa shot 80. Yes, scores were low, but he shot E today.
Even at this course wouldn't make the cut. So it was a bad round.
Among those who finished in the top 40, 71 was the 2nd highest score in the final round.Poot said:lazuras_dc said:98Ag99Grad said:
Guys at the top played really well and no one folded. .
Morikawa wants to have a chat
It's not like Morikawa shot 80. Yes, scores were low, but he shot E today.
So he was below average today.
Morikawa didn't play well today, no doubt. He made 34'4" of putts… not good. But did he fold? Nah.
That was a really entertaining major though… a welcome sight!
🚨🗣️🏃 Bryson DeChambeau tossed a boy his ball on his way to the 10th tee but it got intercepted by an older man… Bryson yelled at the man until he retuned it to the boy 🦸🏼♂️ #PGAChampionship
— NUCLR GOLF (@NUCLRGOLF) May 20, 2024
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Lowest combined score to par by field, PGA Championship history
— Justin Ray (@JustinRayGolf) May 19, 2024
2024 Valhalla, -214
1995 Riviera, +40
2018 Bellerive, +59
Great tournament but this is never my favorite brand of golf to watch.
bagger05 said:
Great tournament but this is never my favorite brand of golf to watch.
Im looking for Ray Finkle.... and a clean pair of shorts. Im just a very big Finkle fan. This is my Graceland, sir.
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It certainly didn't have a "major" vibe to the tournament with the way the course played.
Can they make it difficult enough for a US open, though? I prefer my US Open Champion to be at -2 to +2. -6 is okay like 2021/2022, but still too low for my taste for that tournament.DannyDuberstein said:
Wouldnt want to see a US Open here, but I think it fits well for a PGA championship. Keep getting tight finishes, so something is working.
I know we've had some -10 and -13s recently, but I hope they try to make it tougher for that tournament. Not easier to score.
In theory, they could probably narrow it enough and grow it up enough to make it much tougher. But I still think it's much more of a PGA championship fit.
I'd like to see the PGA Championship go back to Match Play!
I loved it at the ocean course. -6 wins and its an iconic venue. Happy for Xander as he seems like a great dude but no major champion should ever be -21 imo
Im looking for Ray Finkle.... and a clean pair of shorts. Im just a very big Finkle fan. This is my Graceland, sir.
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Hell no they shouldn't be -21
Memorial Park played harder during the Texas Children's Hospital Houston Open than Valhalla did for a PGA Championship.
That's embarrassing.
Memorial Park played harder during the Texas Children's Hospital Houston Open than Valhalla did for a PGA Championship.
That's embarrassing.
The weather made it too soft. If they don't get the rain and firm it up, maybe they could defend better
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Fightin Texas Aggie c/o 04
My course has deeper rough than Valhalla. Just saying.
Maybe they just needed more police harassing the players and it would have been more of a challenge.
The weather definitely played a role but the course really doesn't have much defenses other than being long. Bad shots aren't really penalized. Missing greens was no big deal, and guys got up and down from all over all week. Aren't very tricky greens either.
7,600 yards alone isn't a test for these guys anymore. You have to extract a price when they mis-hit a shot. Valhalla doesn't really do that.
7,600 yards alone isn't a test for these guys anymore. You have to extract a price when they mis-hit a shot. Valhalla doesn't really do that.
Milwaukees Best Light said:
Bryson is a weird awkward dude, but I don't think he has a bad bone in him. He just seems oblivious to normalcies.
Yep. Flipped for me at the 2020 Ryder Cup. Him driving #1 on the last day and holding his putter above his head as he walked off of the tee was classic.
DannyDuberstein said:
Agree. Honestly, I think there's a good chance he's on the spectrum to some degree. The social awkwardness, the obsessional focus on certain activities at times, but clearly high functioning and seems to think differently than other players. Maybe he's not entirely on it, but he sure checks some boxes for it. It would explain a fair amount.
Yeah read the huge piece in golf digest by Chris Jones. Absolutely on the spectrum.
So well written.
Bryson DeChambeau has made some mistakes, and he's brought a lot of the derision he receives upon himself. But I tried to write about him for @GolfDigest through an empathetic lens, because I'm the father of an atypical boy who's also an easy target.https://t.co/eBFGbnjYUJ
— Chris Jones (@EnswellJones) March 1, 2022
I know two individuals who are in their 20's who are high functioning on the spectrum and live relatively normal lives.
Both brilliant at some things. Both have obsessions about certain things. Both easy targets for their peers to pick on. And both very blunt and non-filtered in conversation.
I definitely see some of them in Bryson.
Both brilliant at some things. Both have obsessions about certain things. Both easy targets for their peers to pick on. And both very blunt and non-filtered in conversation.
I definitely see some of them in Bryson.
I misread you. I thought you said you wanted to see one. Agreed. It's not a US Open course IMO.DannyDuberstein said:
In theory, they could probably narrow it enough and grow it up enough to make it much tougher. But I still think it's much more of a PGA championship fit.
Thats the opposite of what needs to happenDannyDuberstein said:
In theory, they could probably narrow it enough and grow it up enough to make it much tougher. But I still think it's much more of a PGA championship fit.
The PGA should feel blessed the competition was tight and compelling, because literally nothing else about this venue or tournament was. IMO.
I cannot wait for the US Open. Pinehurst #2 is a national treasure and I hope they have it in tip top, insanely difficult shape.
I'm in the same boat. Why would you want another major to be just the US Open? Each major should have its own identity.beerad12man said:I misread you. I thought you said you wanted to see one. Agreed. It's not a US Open course IMO.DannyDuberstein said:
In theory, they could probably narrow it enough and grow it up enough to make it much tougher. But I still think it's much more of a PGA championship fit.
You have the pageantry and tradition of the Masters.
The tough brutal conditions at the US Open.
Links-style courses with unpredictable weather of the Open Championship.
And to be honest, I have no idea what the PGA Championship is or should be and that's probably the problem. But I know it shouldn't be like the three other majors.
Scottie might have an opinion about that.
Yeah, I'm good with the PGA championship setup and scores being reasonably reflective of scores from a typical PGA weekend stop. Make it somewhat tougher so it's a challenging weekend stop, but no need for it to be US Open Part 1. -21 is excessive, but these guys are gonna score in soft conditions and no wind. Gonna have those conditions from time to time and much lower than expected scores for the venue, even at Augusta.
Players have gotten to -20 at ANGC. The last two winning scores at Valhalla were -16 & -18. Some of you act like they shot -32 at the Barbasol.
I think when weather doesn't cooperate, they should have flexibility making the course longer. Had they turned 18 into a par 4 for the weekend, and maybe adjusted some other holes, that could have been interesting.
I think when weather doesn't cooperate, they should have flexibility making the course longer. Had they turned 18 into a par 4 for the weekend, and maybe adjusted some other holes, that could have been interesting.
Field-wide, Valhalla was 254 shots easier than the next easiest PGA championship. That is insane.
Lowest combined score to par by field, PGA Championship history
— Justin Ray (@JustinRayGolf) May 19, 2024
2024 Valhalla, -214
1995 Riviera, +40
2018 Bellerive, +59
Yeah the issue isn't someone getting to 20 or 21. It's how many players got to double digits below par, etc. Just wild numbers.
Bunk Moreland said:
Yeah the issue isn't someone getting to 20 or 21. It's how many players got to double digits below par, etc. Just wild numbers.
Yeah. Birdies are fine. Good shots should be rewarded. The problem was bad shots weren't penalized and guys were routinely out of position and still had no problem saving par. Memorial Park penalizes bad shots a lot more than Valhalla.
I doubt you see the tourney ever return there. Between the terrible ingress/egress to the course, the weather in Louisville that time of year, and the Scottie situation. Valhalla probably is on the bottom of the future list of hosts.JCA1 said:
Field-wide, Valhalla was 254 shots easier than the next easiest PGA championship. That is insane.
Lowest combined score to par by field, PGA Championship history
— Justin Ray (@JustinRayGolf) May 19, 2024
2024 Valhalla, -214
1995 Riviera, +40
2018 Bellerive, +59
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