*****Official Texas Rangers 2021-2022 Off Season Thread*****

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Do not want.
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AgBQ-00 said:

Do not want.


I'd be all about it. 4.7 WAR for a 3.7 WAR that has no fit here anymore. We still need a corner OF and Joey brings a helluva glove. We all knew he wouldn't fit in NY. I think he might excel if you put the right bats around him in Semien and Seager. Putting high K rate guys around him is a recipe for disaster imo.
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gigem1223 said:

Sounds like the Yankees have called in on a possible trade for IKF.

One name that's been thrown out there is Gallo.
They trade a bunch of Rule V guys for a guy and then want a MLB starting SS to return him?!

Offer them back what they gave us.
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Think about this scenario. Trade IKF to NY for Gallo and sign Suzuki. How bout an OF of Gallo, Garcia, Suzuki?
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Gallo is only signed through 2022. We can't give up much for him. Hell, we didn't get that much for him in the trade to begin with. No can do on trading IKF for Gallo, unless we are getting a mlb caliber pitcher along with Gallo.

IKF won a gold glove. He has value. With the new CBA we may get a universal DH, but if not, he would be a solid get for a NL team that makes double switches throughout the game. He can play all over, even catcher.


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Who ever imagined a world where us trading away IKF for Gallo looked like such a bad deal for us?

MLB ready shortstops are rare. We happen to have two. We should ask for the moon and get it. Some starting pitching, for example.

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wbt5845 said:

Who ever imagined a world where us trading away IKF for Gallo looked like such a bad deal for us?

MLB ready shortstops are rare. We happen to have two. We should ask for the moon and get it. Some starting pitching, for example.


My thoughts exactly. Get the most value we can for him. Pitching is the big need and Gallo does not address that.
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wbt5845 said:

Who ever imagined a world where us trading away IKF for Gallo looked like such a bad deal for us?

MLB ready shortstops are rare. We happen to have two. We should ask for the moon and get it. Some starting pitching, for example.


I'm hoping we are engaged with Cincy. We have 3 roster spots that need to open. Now, we do have some guys to easily drop...

They are shopping 2-3 SPs, in order of most cost to least cost:

Luis Castillo (28-RH) - 2 years of team control
Went 33GS, 3.98, 1.22WHIP, 187.2 IP, 192 SO
Career 3.72 ERA in 123 GS

Sonny Gray (32-RH) - 2 years of team control (includes team option for 2023)
Went 26 GS, 4.19 ERA, 1.29 WHIP, 135.1 IP, 155 SO
Career 3.61 ERA in 214 GS

Tyler Mahle (27-RH) - 2 years of team control (Arbs)
Went 33 GS, 3.75 ERA, 1.233 WHIP 180.0 IP, 210 SO
Career 4.34 ERA in 94 GS

They could benefit from IKF at either SS or 3B. Willie Calhoun could fill a cheap role in LF or DH, if the DH is adopted by the NL in CBA. Young pitchers like Allard, Hearn, Burke, and King would give the Reds some players to consider...
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Don't post as much on this thread but it's on my watchlist and I always lurk. Very excited with these off-season moves so far!
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Another decent starter and a decent outfield bat could make this thing look a lot better. Calhoun helps, but our outfield was god awful outside of Garcia once gallo was traded. We need another decent outfielder.
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Grapesoda2525 said:

Another decent starter and a decent outfield bat could make this thing look a lot better. Calhoun helps, but our outfield was god awful outside of Garcia once gallo was traded. We need another decent outfielder.

W. Calhoun just can't stay healthy. I hate that, as he worked hard to transform his body to be a better player, but he keeps getting hurt every year. I think C. Calhoun may be the end of Willie in Arlington ultimately. You only have so much room on the roster for short squatty LH hitters that are mostly a DH and a fillin outfielder.

Maybe they find room for both, but I see Willie getting included in a trade package somewhere.
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DallasAg 94 said:

wbt5845 said:

Who ever imagined a world where us trading away IKF for Gallo looked like such a bad deal for us?

MLB ready shortstops are rare. We happen to have two. We should ask for the moon and get it. Some starting pitching, for example.


I'm hoping we are engaged with Cincy. We have 3 roster spots that need to open. Now, we do have some guys to easily drop...

They are shopping 2-3 SPs, in order of most cost to least cost:

Luis Castillo (28-RH) - 2 years of team control
Went 33GS, 3.98, 1.22WHIP, 187.2 IP, 192 SO
Career 3.72 ERA in 123 GS

Sonny Gray (32-RH) - 2 years of team control (includes team option for 2023)
Went 26 GS, 4.19 ERA, 1.29 WHIP, 135.1 IP, 155 SO
Career 3.61 ERA in 214 GS

Tyler Mahle (27-RH) - 2 years of team control (Arbs)
Went 33 GS, 3.75 ERA, 1.233 WHIP 180.0 IP, 210 SO
Career 4.34 ERA in 94 GS

They could benefit from IKF at either SS or 3B. Willie Calhoun could fill a cheap role in LF or DH, if the DH is adopted by the NL in CBA. Young pitchers like Allard, Hearn, Burke, and King would give the Reds some players to consider...

I don't remember the exact details. but we need to kick the tires on S. Gray. One of the off-season writeup's mentioned him, and I recall that he got shut down early last season with either shoulder or elbow issues. Then also that his innings have been decreasing the past few seasons. So at least a caution flag there, but maybe he is good to go still.

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Luis Castillo would be fantastic!
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We got two position players named Calhoun - might as well have two starting pitchers named Gray.
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KT 90 said:





I don't remember the exact details. but we need to kick the tires on S. Gray. One of the off-season writeup's mentioned him, and I recall that he got shut down early last season with either shoulder or elbow issues. Then also that his innings have been decreasing the past few seasons. So at least a caution flag there, but maybe he is good to go still.
I agree with you. If we can get him for some guys that have lost a position... someone like S Gray would bridge the season for some of the SPs that are close, but not there, yet.
Dunnng-SGray-JGray-King-Allard

Ragans comes to mind. If SGray lands on the DL/IR, you bring Ragans (23) up for a couple GS knowing he goes back down.

Others:Cole Winn (21-AAA), Jake Latz (25), Yerry Rodriguez (23), Hans Crouse (22), Alexy (23).

Yerry and Alexy are on the 40.
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KT 90 said:

Grapesoda2525 said:

Another decent starter and a decent outfield bat could make this thing look a lot better. Calhoun helps, but our outfield was god awful outside of Garcia once gallo was traded. We need another decent outfielder.

W. Calhoun just can't stay healthy. I hate that, as he worked hard to transform his body to be a better player, but he keeps getting hurt every year. I think C. Calhoun may be the end of Willie in Arlington ultimately. You only have so much room on the roster for short squatty LH hitters that are mostly a DH and a fillin outfielder.

Maybe they find room for both, but I see Willie getting included in a trade package somewhere.

I wouldn't mind seeing us trade IKF and Willie C for something.
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gigem1223 said:

Sounds like the Yankees have called in on a possible trade for IKF.

One name that's been thrown out there is Gallo.

Am I crazy for wanting to have IKF over Gallo?? He's a lot more versatile
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TDub said:

gigem1223 said:

Sounds like the Yankees have called in on a possible trade for IKF.

One name that's been thrown out there is Gallo.

Am I crazy for wanting to have IKF over Gallo?? He's a lot more versatile


Analytics would tell you yes, you're crazy. And how is IKF more versatile? Gallo can play all 3 OF positions and 1st base/ 3rd base if needed. Let's not forget he also has 2 gold gloves to his name.
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DallasAg 94 said:

KT 90 said:





I don't remember the exact details. but we need to kick the tires on S. Gray. One of the off-season writeup's mentioned him, and I recall that he got shut down early last season with either shoulder or elbow issues. Then also that his innings have been decreasing the past few seasons. So at least a caution flag there, but maybe he is good to go still.
I agree with you. If we can get him for some guys that have lost a position... someone like S Gray would bridge the season for some of the SPs that are close, but not there, yet.
Dunnng-SGray-JGray-King-Allard

Ragans comes to mind. If SGray lands on the DL/IR, you bring Ragans (23) up for a couple GS knowing he goes back down.

Others:Cole Winn (21-AAA), Jake Latz (25), Yerry Rodriguez (23), Hans Crouse (22), Alexy (23).

Yerry and Alexy are on the 40.


pretty sure Hans Crouse was dealt.... I remember being pretty surprised because I thought he was gonna be a dude!
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alvtimes said:







pretty sure Hans Crouse was dealt.... I remember being pretty surprised because I thought he was gonna be a dude!
You are correct. I was thinking he was rumored to be included in a trade, but that it was someone else.
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And just like that... plenty of roster spots.

Quote:

The Rangers announced that outfielder Billy McKinney and catchers David Garcia and Yohel Pozo were non-tendered. Texas also assigned outfielder DJ Peters outright to Triple-A Salt Lake after he went unclaimed on waivers.


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CBA apparently expires sometime tonight, so more moves can happen today.
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Sign kershaw and trade for Castillo.
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Here's a good up to date tracker you can use to watch guys.

https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/free-agents/
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As much as I'd like Kershaw, Stroman is younger and can be had for less.

Word is Kershaw (34 years old) wants 3 years and $100 MM. Eek!
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Woof never mind at that price
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Any word on the bally tv issue being resolved?

I didn't even care to watch us tank last year. I have YouTube tv and if we are actually trying, I'll catch some games if can.
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I have YTTV as well but switched to ATT for baseball season cause I'm a glutton for punishment. Have switched back.

Word was we were supposed to be able to buy Bally ala cate this coming season, but have yet to see anything official. The price they've floated is $23 a month, which is really steep as well.
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wbt5845 said:

I have YTTV as well but switched to ATT for baseball season cause I'm a glutton for punishment. Have switched back.

Word was we were supposed to be able to buy Bally ala cate this coming season, but have yet to see anything official. The price they've floated is $23 a month, which is really steep as well.
Remember when cutting the cord would save money? All of the streaming and a la carte offerings now is crazy expensive.
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I thought I heard that streaming app wasn't even close to being viable yet
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Lying Vegas sacks of *****
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DannyDuberstein said:

I thought I heard that streaming app wasn't even close to being viable yet

I hadn't heard that. Sounds about right though.

Was glad to see the MLB, NBA and NHL commissioners were starting to weigh in and ***** about this.
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I like the thought of Gallo in a lineup with Seager and Semien...and I'm not a Gallo fan
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Woody all but confirmed on the fan that there will be another move for a pitcher
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https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/10019671-mlb-trade-rumors-reds-luis-castillo-sonny-gray-tyler-mahle-interest-rangers.amp.html
 
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