And if it was Luis Suarez they would have made it a 9 match ban.Dre_00 said:
FA isn't taking action. Honestly...kinda looks like a "get off me" move.
That said, I firmly believe reputation plays a factor in this stuff. Everyone loves Salah. If that was Rooney, he'd probably be banned.
Only because they would get some piece of trash like Patrice Evra to make up a storydatrixstunna said:
If that was Suarez, he would deserve a 19 game ban.
Dre_00 said:
That Suarez eventually admitted to saying?
Dre_00 said:
That Suarez eventually admitted to saying?
He didn't make up Suarez's words, just the offense.Dre_00 said:
That Suarez eventually admitted to saying?
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Scholars who have studied race issues in Latin America say that such a term can have different meanings and connotations in different nations.
Generally, however, negrito is not considered a racial slur in Latin America, said Mark Sawyer, director of the Center for the Study of Race, Ethnicity and Politics at the University of California Los Angeles. "It's often a term of endearment," he said.
But Dr. Carmen Fracchia, a Paraguayan who works in the Iberian and Latin American Studies department of Birkbeck University of London, told CNN that the term is not affectionate when it refers to strangers.
Dre_00 said:
Yeah, I'm not going to get too far into this again.
Dre_00 said:
Here goes nothing...
Everything you are saying can in no way be true.
https://edition.cnn.com/2011/12/20/sport/football/suarez-racism/index.htmlQuote:
Scholars who have studied race issues in Latin America say that such a term can have different meanings and connotations in different nations.
Generally, however, negrito is not considered a racial slur in Latin America, said Mark Sawyer, director of the Center for the Study of Race, Ethnicity and Politics at the University of California Los Angeles. "It's often a term of endearment," he said.
But Dr. Carmen Fracchia, a Paraguayan who works in the Iberian and Latin American Studies department of Birkbeck University of London, told CNN that the term is not affectionate when it refers to strangers.
I'm far from an expert in Spanish linguistics but seems pretty apparent that there's a lot of "grey" here. Like so many other things in language, context matters. If you use that word in reference to a stranger, it has a completely different meaning and intent than when you use it to someone you know. So yeah, I find it impossible to believe that during a fight/argument with a heated rival, a man used a word with two disparate meanings and actually meant it in the "endearment" sense. That's so far-fetched it borders on lunacy.
Also, LOL at Evra "knowing" what he was doing when people with PhDs in relevant disciplines can't fully align on the nuances of the word or simply define its meaning.
Anyway, enjoy your game tomorrow.
jeffk said:
Also, one possible reason Buvac has left the team is that he's a serious candidate for the Arsenal job?
OregonAggie said:jeffk said:
Also, one possible reason Buvac has left the team is that he's a serious candidate for the Arsenal job?
Grumpy Pundits on XM FC we're making that link today.
If you're serious, I'm in!jeffk said:
BTW - I think I'll be catching the game at the Corner tomorrow if anyone is around campus and wants to join me.
I love how you brought academic social scientists into this debate. That is not really relevant between two guys who didn't finish high school. Just because people with PhDs don't know how to treat the word "negrito" doesnt mean that Evra didn't ham it up. That guy played with Antonio Valencia for years...he has heard negrito...he knows what it means...he wasn't offended, he just played Luis.Dre_00 said:
Also, LOL at Evra "knowing" what he was doing when people with PhDs in relevant disciplines can't fully align on the nuances of the word or simply define its meaning.
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This conversation is dumb.
jeffk said:
Woah! Bender on the SB?!