CNN and others banned from White House

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aggieforester05 said:

Duckhook said:

Trump just wants something like his buddy Rocket Man has in North Korea.

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North Korean propaganda has nothing on American Pravda. The Nork regime can only dream of being able to brainwash their citizenry was effectively asked thoroughly as the Democrat propaganda machine has done to their constituents.


Half the people on here still think Trump won in 2020. The projection is hilarious.
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schmendeler said:

aggieforester05 said:

Duckhook said:

Trump just wants something like his buddy Rocket Man has in North Korea.

[url=https://ibb.co/dw9RnwmF][/url]


North Korean propaganda has nothing on American Pravda. The Nork regime can only dream of being able to brainwash their citizenry was effectively asked thoroughly as the Democrat propaganda machine has done to their constituents.


Half the people on here still think Trump won in 2020. The projection is hilarious.


Projection? If you aren't willing to admit that Americans have been brainwashed by left wing propaganda for more than a century, then you are intellectually dishonest and not worthy of discussion. The American left are amongst the most brainwashed people on the planet and it's not remotely debatable. To deny that puts you in the same league as flat earthers.
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People's suspicion of the veracity of the 2020 election has nothing to do with propoganda. Right or wrong, it is based off of an honest appraisal of the actual evidence.

You've been on this board long enough to know that.
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Good. **** these lying propagandists.




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doubledog said:

SquirrellyDan said:

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Coachlandryhat said:

Of course dissenting opinions will be silence. No use and trying to argue your point anymore. Just remove them. Why stop at this just cancel the federal license they need to broadcast. I remember when Republicans stood for freedom. This isnt freedom. These fake news organizations don't have to tell lies anymore he is doing it all on his own. He said the war is coming to a end weekly for the last 6 months he is the one not being truthful.

So much failure in one post. From misspellings, incorrect grammar and over the top hyperbole. And yet..4 people actually starred this. Unbelievable.


When all you can do is pick apart grammar and spelling, you don't have a real argument.

When one is unable to articulate one's position in grammatically correct English, the argument cannot be disseminated in an appropriate and effective manner.


Cool story. I'm sure you understood the argument. It's easier to attack the grammar and spelling when there is no clear counter argument.
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It was an inarticulate pile of nonsense.

Restricting who has access to the president has nothing to do with freedom. 99.9999999999999999% of the people in this country don't have access to the president.
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He just gave them more credibility. Great!
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Good. They're not a serious news organization and neither are the NYT, NBC, CBS, etc. **** them!
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If only we had Supreme Court precedents on this exact issue.

Talk to SCOTUS about it.

Houchins v. KQED (1978): The First Amendment does not require the government to give the press access to information or places under government control. It "is neither a Freedom of Information Act nor an Official Secrets Act." The press's core protection is the right to communicate information once obtained, not a right to collect it from the government.

Pell v. Procunier (1974) and related cases: The press has no constitutional right to information or locations not available to the public generally.

Zemel v. Rusk (1965): "Entry into the White House [is not] a First Amendment right. The right to speak and publish does not carry with it the unrestrained right to gather information."
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Coachlandryhat said:

13B said:

Coachlandryhat said:

Of course dissenting opinions will be silence. No use and trying to argue your point anymore. Just remove them. Why stop at this just cancel the federal license they need to broadcast. I remember when Republicans stood for freedom. This isnt freedom. These fake news organizations don't have to tell lies anymore he is doing it all on his own. He said the war is coming to a end weekly for the last 6 months he is the one not being truthful.

So much failure in one post. From misspellings, incorrect grammar and over the top hyperbole. And yet..4 people actually starred this. Unbelievable.

Do you disagree with the facts?

The fact is that their ability to print or broadcast whatever garbage they want to has not been infringed. There is no First Amendment right to your own personal seat in the WH breifing room, and there is nothing in Trump's post saying that CNN and MSNOW cannot broadcast.

Now personally, I wouldn't have gone as far as Trump. I would have made it a point that in the interests of trying to be efficient with stupid things Biden has done, the WH is going to begin using Biden's fake briefing room across the street. Now, it will just be called an "overflow room". Outlets like CNN, MSNBC, and others that ask stupid, inane combative questions will be relocated to that room where they can watch the briefing on closed circuit TV, but not have the ability to disrupt or derail briefings.

There, a compromise.

ETA: I find it telling that the same people who are losing their mind over CNN and MSNOW being kept from the WH briefing room had absolutely no problem with the WH Press Corps deciding who can and cannot attend WH briefings.

Guess what? You can't have it both ways and be taken seriously.
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those cases are all easily distinguished. the first two involved access to prisons . the third involved a person that wanted to go to Cuba. the line about the white house is dicta regarding unauthorized entry, not banning the press for not liking what they report.

the case to look at if you are interested in what the actual legal analysis will entail is from last year DC circuit:

Associated Press v Budowich
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I think ALL national news outlets should be replaced with editors and reporters of newspapers of towns with less than 15,000 people. Add to this podcasters of DIY 'ER's and guys on YouTube that create video content of how to work with your hands; mechanics, carpenters, plumbers, HVAC, etc.

They would have better questions with things that are more relevant to average Americans.
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ts5641 said:

Good. They're not a serious news organization and neither are the NYT, NBC, CBS, etc. **** them!
Add FOX to your list.
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Maybe if the homie didn't lie as much as he breathes, publications would be more fair to him lmao

Oh well, dudes gonna whine like he always does. Maybe he can find another building to put his name on, preferably a outhouse
C/O 2013 - Company E2
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doubledog said:

Freedom of the press, not freedom from the press.

But not freedom to tell nothing but lies and obfuscate while treating Dems with kid gloves.
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t_J_e_C_x said:

Maybe if the homie didn't lie as much as he breathes, publications would be more fair to him lmao

Oh well, dudes gonna whine like he always does. Maybe he can find another building to put his name on, preferably a outhouse

Like they were fair to either Bush? Reagan? How about Nixon? The fact is they never are fair to the guy with the R next to his name.

Maybe you should consider this.
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It's all he's got going for him at the moment. He shut the bed with Iran and is dealing with serious economic issues because of it. It can't be blamed on his people around him anymore because he "learned" from his mistakes in his first term.

He's becoming more of a caricature than before and it will only get worse when the Dems take back Congress, unfortunately.

And I voted for the ****.
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I love how this board doesn't group or think Fox News is mainstream media - they are. All MSM outlets push fake narratives and agendas. Fox News lies just like all the others. They need to go on the bowels diagram too.
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Cinco Ranch Aggie said:

doubledog said:

Freedom of the press, not freedom from the press.

But not freedom to tell nothing but lies and obfuscate while treating Dems with kid gloves.


That's not for the government to decide. I'm not upset by this but it's a ****ing dumb move by a man grasping at straws.
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t_J_e_C_x said:

Maybe if the homie didn't lie as much as he breathes, publications would be more fair to him lmao

Oh well, dudes gonna whine like he always does. Maybe he can find another building to put his name on, preferably a outhouse


Democrats lie as much as they breathe and it'll be a cold day in hell before these orgs hold them accountable. Why is it (D)ifferent for them to give Democrats a pass for their blatant and continuous lies? You folks that whine about alleged Trump lies will never hold Democrats to the same standard. Do you really care about the truth or just partisan mud slinging?
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BlackGold said:

I love how this board doesn't group or think Fox News is mainstream media - they are. All MSM outlets push fake narratives and agendas. Fox News lies just like all the others. They need to go on the bowels diagram too.


To be fair the left as a whole believes that Fox News is uniquely partisan and their propaganda outlets are somehow better because they confirm their biases. They're not.
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aggieforester05 said:

BlackGold said:

I love how this board doesn't group or think Fox News is mainstream media - they are. All MSM outlets push fake narratives and agendas. Fox News lies just like all the others. They need to go on the bowels diagram too.


To be fair the left as a whole believes that Fox News is uniquely partisan and their propaganda outlets are somehow better because they confirm their biases. They're not.


Agreed. The right as a whole think CNN, MSNBC, etc. are uniquely partisan which they very clearly are (unless it suits their worldview or current position). It's part of the game the folks at the top play to keep the peons like us fighting amongst ourselves.
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Bull Meachem said:

Cinco Ranch Aggie said:

doubledog said:

Freedom of the press, not freedom from the press.

But not freedom to tell nothing but lies and obfuscate while treating Dems with kid gloves.


That's not for the government to decide. I'm not upset by this but it's a ****ing dumb move by a man grasping at straws.

I agree.

How can the media be held accountable otherwise? I do what I can - I don't watch MSM or subscribe to their newspapers, and I am certainly not alone in that, yet they continue to exist to spew their opinions as facts.
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Trump doesn't like hard questions.
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Canvasback said:

Trump doesn't like hard questions.

How many US Servicemen have died or have been seriously wounded in the Iran War?
Of the wounded, how many of those are able to walk today? again?

But, of course, Americans, the people doing the fighting and paying for the bombs, don't have a right to the answers to these questions. On the contrary, for some reason, there is a minority of Americans who feel we are not entitled to know this. We are only supposed to pay our taxes and die.
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Hardcore Greg said:

Love it! They are the enemy and should be treated as such. At times, they make Joseph Goebbels blush in his grave.


Its always fun until the rabbit gets the gun.
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Trump is soft. Beta man almost. A judge will overturn this pronto.
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Is FOX "mainstream media"? I keep hearing that term, but I thought FOX was the most heavily watched news show.
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BlackGold said:

aggieforester05 said:

BlackGold said:

I love how this board doesn't group or think Fox News is mainstream media - they are. All MSM outlets push fake narratives and agendas. Fox News lies just like all the others. They need to go on the bowels diagram too.


To be fair the left as a whole believes that Fox News is uniquely partisan and their propaganda outlets are somehow better because they confirm their biases. They're not.


Agreed. The right as a whole think CNN, MSNBC, etc. are uniquely partisan which they very clearly are (unless it suits their worldview or current position). It's part of the game the folks at the top play to keep the peons like us fighting amongst ourselves.


There's nothing unusual about the partisanship of the news networks. They run on ad revenue and so they cater to audiences by differentiating through the political agenda they promote.

I don't believe this is the issue that caused Trump to ban CNN and MSNOW from the White House. CNN and MSNOW pursue their political agenda driven reporting by publishing outright lies and uncorroborated Democrat party narrative. When the narrative is exposed as falsehoods, they never acknowledge that or retract. They proudly display journalism awards for publishing exposed lies. The Russia hoax, Hunter's laptop, E. Jeanne Carroll, fine people on both sides, kids in cages. Never a retraction.

They lie with such commitment that even their own leaders are sometimes surprised to learn that they believed the lies e.g. in 2024 Hasan Piker heard for the first time (during a live debate) the full quote from Trump about the protesters clashing at Charlottesville. No apology. No shame. They are still defending the SPLC.
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Canvasback said:

Trump doesn't like hard questions.


lol. You mean the POTUS that has spent more time on a microphone going out of his way to talk to reporters than any other POTUS in history...and by miles.

He has stood in front of the media and done Q&A for hours just because he wants to and likes to spar. No POTUS in history has given the amount of access to the press that this guy has. It's not even debatable. It plays into his narcissism so you can't have this both ways.

If these outlets weren't so blatantly anti-American there likely wouldn't be a problem here.
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Canvasback said:

Trump doesn't like hard questions.


Biden couldn't answer a question without his notebook and talking points.
My demon called an exorcist on me, now I have two people to talk to.
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