CNN and others banned from White House

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Remember, in lib world, the judiciary is the superior branch of government particularly when the executive is not a lib.

Of course, their reverence for the judiciary is most dependent on how the judiciary rules and whether its in their favor.

Tricky line they walk but they do it with dishonor and with a growing disrespect for our Country and Constitution.
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schmendeler said:

Ag with kids said:

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Rockdoc said:

Stay calm. You'll get over it. You'll still get your distorted liberal news from the same old liberal outlets.


Seeing you guys just swallow everything he does is so precious. Very good-girl coded.

Disagreeing with your hyperbolic rants only means several posters believe you don't have a rational argument.


Maga said goodbye to rationality about a decade ago



This was Trump's inauguration.

Please continue your rants that the RIGHT said goodbye to rationality...


One chick ten years ago. The amount of use you guys have gotten from it is impressive.


Do you live under a rock? There are literally thousands of liberals filming themselves daily either crying or yelling in their cars simply because Trump is President.
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Judge ruled in favor of those banned.
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Darn these activist judges appointed by President Trump himself.
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Just stop having the press conferences altogether. F the "judge".
BMX Bandit
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decided on 5th amendment due process grounds. First amendment issues not reached.

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the D.C. Circuit in Sherrill and Karem has held that advanced notice of prohibited conduct and of the consequences of noncompliance are required before a hard pass can be revoked


very straight forward. no pre-revocation notice was given. That's not disputed.

district court judges should follow the law, not change the law. Trump will ask the DC circuit (appeals) to overrule the precedent or carve out an exception. (Can't appeal a TRO, so assumes an injunction enters after a full hearing within 14 days)
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BigRobSA said:

Just stop having the press conferences altogether. F the "judge".

Sean Spicer essentially laid out what would have been more effective yesterday; just announce he's never going to call on these 3 outlets again.

He could also just invite 10 or so 'other' media outlets into the oval etc. for questions whenever he wants, including with the spokesperson. The real issue isn't even these 4 outlets, it's the WHCA itself, which is utterly corrupt/garbage.

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I'm struggling to understand free press=free access to everyone and everything. Maybe if you allow "any" must allow "all" ??
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KerrAg76 said:

I'm struggling to understand free press=free access to everyone and everything. Maybe if you allow "any" must allow "all" ??


That's not the legal claim being made.
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The president flat out said he was banning them because he didn't like the stories they were reporting.

We are lucky that he's so honest about a lot of the unconstitutional **** he tries to pull off. A more competent leader might get away with it.

I'm sure the judge is happy to rule on 5th amendment grounds and hope this goes away, but zero chance it would survive the 1st amendment argument if it got that far.
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He didn't try to stop them from writing the stories, and they haven't stopped.
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Funky Winkerbean said:

He didn't try to stop them from writing the stories, and they haven't stopped.


Which is part of why removing their press passes was a dumb "solution"
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amercer said:

The president flat out said he was banning them because he didn't like the stories they were reporting.

We are lucky that he's so honest about a lot of the unconstitutional **** he tries to pull off. A more competent leader might get away with it.

I'm sure the judge is happy to rule on 5th amendment grounds and hope this goes away, but zero chance it would survive the 1st amendment argument if it got that far.

you should have sent this to Judge Kelly. no one told him how simple the first amendment issue was.
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Funky Winkerbean said:

He didn't try to stop them from writing the stories, and they haven't stopped.


President Trump "I'm going to actively engage in government enforced viewpoint discrimination!"

Also President Trump "why are the judges so mean to me?"
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Just kick all reporters out of the white house until the new ball room is completed, cite a security concern with the construction. Put some new carpet/paint down there in the basement where the vermin 'work.'
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BMX Bandit said:

amercer said:

The president flat out said he was banning them because he didn't like the stories they were reporting.

We are lucky that he's so honest about a lot of the unconstitutional **** he tries to pull off. A more competent leader might get away with it.

I'm sure the judge is happy to rule on 5th amendment grounds and hope this goes away, but zero chance it would survive the 1st amendment argument if it got that far.

you should have sent this to Judge Kelly. no one told him how simple the first amendment issue was.


No judge has any level of confusion on this issue, but the pattern has become really clear. Find some procedural grounds to rule on and hope the administration doesn't push the issue because the judges don't want direct conflict. Tariffs, birthright citizenship, etc. The courts toss it back and say, please just knock it off now
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TA-OP said:

Darn these activist judges appointed by President Trump himself.

It's important to understand correlation and causation.

Trump appointed judges are going to correlate better with sound understanding of the constitution, a commitment to ruling based on the law, and general competency.

Obama Biden judges correlate strongly with dip****tedness, ruling on they feelz, and orange man evil.

However, who appointed the judge does not necessarily CAUSE them to behave a certain way.

Hope this helps you understand the judiciary playing field a bit better.
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Trump probably already remodeled the basement to be a comfortable hang out.

He also fixed a lot of the drainage on the WH grounds so they don't have to stand around in mud all day.

I did notice Lil Doocy with a live shot from the WH grounds so figured the TRO was granted. And laughing my ass off that the libs think this signals some win.

TROs are the new participation ribbons for the theater kids.
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the judges don't want direct conflict.

bless your heart. you think judges in DC are afraid of conflict with Trump. have you even seen the number of cases they have conflict with him on? some right, some wrong, but acting like DC judge are some how worried about Trump is hilarious ostrichism
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One striking thing folks may overlook is just how many people believe that the way CNN and MSNBC have treated our Country over the past few years with absolute disregard for facts, the truth, fairness, being unbiased, and other pure raping of the trust the public one placed on the "media" to report things to the public.

Trying to reward that terrible behavior, to ignore the damage they have done to our Country… just because you hate Orange Man?

That's what is truly disgusting. Evidenced by the usual sorts rushing to defend CNN and hate on DJT. See it for what it is folks. It's not about the first amendment, it's about Trump derangement and their love of Brian Stelter over being American.
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BMX Bandit said:

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the judges don't want direct conflict.

bless your heart. you think judges in DC are afraid of conflict with Trump. have you even seen the number of cases they have conflict with him on? some right, some wrong, but acting like DC judge are some how worried about Trump is hilarious ostrichism

It's more appropriate to say that if a judge can grant a TRO based on a due process claim that neither side disputes, versus weighing in on a slightly more complicated First Amendment issue, the judge is going to do the former. I think you explained this earlier as well.
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94chem said:

Ag with kids said:

94chem said:

Silent For Too Long said:

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KillerAg21 said:

At this point its just how you people are. When the cult leader does it its good, and when he doesn't like something it turns bad. Safe Spaces used to be bad and now the White House has turned into one. Free Press is now the latest in the series.


Hegseth, Miller, Leavitt, Mullins, Homan, Patel, Bondi...just one lightweight sycophant after another.

So waiting for the Come to Jesus moment for the GOP, when names like Kirk, Buckley, Noonan, Will, Reagan, Scalia are respected. Not because they were always right, or always agreed with me, or anything like that. Rather, they actually believed in our institutions, rather than engaging in petulant destruction and tyranny whenever they wanted to do so.


When is your part going to respect our borders?
When is your party going to respect little girls privacy?
When is your party going to respect the 2nd amendment?
When is your party going to respect the will of their own voters during presidential primaries?

But some reporters got their feelings hurt! Oh my God the country is over!


Have voted for 2 democrats since 1990. One was for Brazos County sheriff.

So, Biden or Harris?


As much as you need to know, I have to say that your desire to make every election a trolley problem or some Helm's Deep last stand of the free world is really your psychological problem, not mine. It rankles you that I flat out reject this idea that "our" morally depraved candidates must be elected instead of "theirs," and that I don't think this will lead to a moral government at all. It never has yet, but you know, it just hasn't been done right yet, has it? LoL, chief.

Based on that word salad, I'll have to conclude it was Harris...
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I didn't even bother to look up what trolley problem or a helms deep last stand. Sounds like Alfred Hitchcock or vintage pornos (or both).

Verbal diarrhea mean to construct a false myopic focal deception of the visionary potential of a quasi socialistic dependent to become a complicit degenerative destructor of the linear intertwining, fabric if you will, of our Country.
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Just ban all media. Create Trump Media that he oversees. Hot blondes deliver us the true news, overseen by Trump himself.
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He already did that.

Trump TV with Natalie Harp. There is an app and YouTube channel. This happened days ago.
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Reminder judges are not in charge of WH security. It's an Article II function.
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13B said:

Coachlandryhat said:

Of course dissenting opinions will be silence. No use and trying to argue your point anymore. Just remove them. Why stop at this just cancel the federal license they need to broadcast. I remember when Republicans stood for freedom. This isnt freedom. These fake news organizations don't have to tell lies anymore he is doing it all on his own. He said the war is coming to a end weekly for the last 6 months he is the one not being truthful.

So much failure in one post. From misspellings, incorrect grammar and over the top hyperbole. And yet..4 people actually starred this. Unbelievable.


Yet it's far more accurate and intelligent than your response.
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flown-the-coop said:

Reminder judges are not in charge of WH security. It's an Article II function.

Reminder this isn't an issue of security. No matter how much you contort your words to make it seem so.
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Red Fishing Ag93 said:

Voted for this.

The media with their reach and power are more evil than any other org in the world.


Obviously they are much worse than pdfs Trump & those that have successfully blackmailed him, right? All but four in his Admin are in the files. But sure, be afraid of CNN for reporting on it and the 1000 other lies a week. How long before CNN becomes his second Faux News? Then they will be truthful, right?

It is unbelievable that anyone has the audacity to look the other way and then act like a looney rooting for a pdf to strip freedom of the press.

Just move to North Korea. They for sure don't have any of press you live in fear of. You are so afraid it is frightening.
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twelve12twelve said:

flown-the-coop said:

Reminder judges are not in charge of WH security. It's an Article II function.

Reminder this isn't an issue of security. No matter how much you contort your words to make it seem so.

Reminder if you want to access the WH grounds you need permission, and not from a judge.

Are you unable to comprehend that? A judge has no ability to MAKE the President of the United States do a ******* thing.
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Siri, what is a show cause order?
Despite your proselytizing to the contrary, the Trump Administration has generally decided it's good policy to follow a judge's order and take it up with a higher court when it can.
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Siri, show me in the US Constitution where it says a Show Cause Order overrides Article II of the US Constitution.

What a dumb response.

And Trump's decision on whether to comply is wholly different than being forced to comply.
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Well….. OAN (One America News) and NewsMax were covering the official state visit by Xi in the White House.

FoxNews could have too, but elected not to, as a stand of solidarity with their left- wing brethren!

Very telling……..
The two most dangerous domestic terrorists groups in the USA are the modern democrat party and the main stream media.
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