CNN and others banned from White House

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94chem
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Silent For Too Long said:

94chem said:

KillerAg21 said:

At this point its just how you people are. When the cult leader does it its good, and when he doesn't like something it turns bad. Safe Spaces used to be bad and now the White House has turned into one. Free Press is now the latest in the series.


Hegseth, Miller, Leavitt, Mullins, Homan, Patel, Bondi...just one lightweight sycophant after another.

So waiting for the Come to Jesus moment for the GOP, when names like Kirk, Buckley, Noonan, Will, Reagan, Scalia are respected. Not because they were always right, or always agreed with me, or anything like that. Rather, they actually believed in our institutions, rather than engaging in petulant destruction and tyranny whenever they wanted to do so.


When is your part going to respect our borders?
When is your party going to respect little girls privacy?
When is your party going to respect the 2nd amendment?
When is your party going to respect the will of their own voters during presidential primaries?

But some reporters got their feelings hurt! Oh my God the country is over!


Have voted for 2 democrats since 1990. One was for Brazos County sheriff.
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Funky Winkerbean said:

bubblesthechimp said:



Truly noble behavior. Is there interest in serving their customers? Being the "bigger person "?

Another entity that values everything but you.

Replace "customers" with "voters," and you could easily be talking about Trump.

My bad if that's where you were going with that.
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t_J_e_C_x said:

flown-the-coop said:

t_J_e_C_x said:

flown-the-coop said:

Like clockwork.

Trump remains a 45 to 47 steps ahead of his haterz. Funny AF.


I'm sure it'll just be such a bastion of truth of factual news. More in common with NK and Russia is such a win lmao

But you think CNN and MS NOW tell the truth... so there is that.


I bet I could show you a Grok report on how often Trump lies and you'd what-about to the press. I get my news from local and that's all I care to read, but even then I'm well read enough to know that big orange homie lies like he breathes

True, he's a prevaricating prevaricator. Most of the time, it's simply a bragadocious half-truth meant to highlight how much of a boss/pimp/stud he is (if even only in his own mind).

Obama, Biden, etc. lied all of the time too, but it affected us greatly. DebacleCare supposedly saving us $2500/yr or allowing us to keep our doctor, etc.
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No Spin Ag said:

Funky Winkerbean said:

bubblesthechimp said:



Truly noble behavior. Is there interest in serving their customers? Being the "bigger person "?

Another entity that values everything but you.

Replace "customers" with "voters," and you could easily be talking about Trump.

My bad if that's where you were going with that.

Clarify please.
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"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

Text of the 1st.

Nowhere does it make it a right for the press pool to even exist, let alone be open to Company A,B or C.

And I'm on record as thinking this is a dumb gesture by Trump, but the "muh 1st amendment...." argument doesn't hold water.

A move can be an idiotic act of petulance and still not be against the law of the land.
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I think he's just had enough. And it's been bad enough over Iran that it actually does impact the efficacy of negotiations to bring about some end to Iran.

How much impact? Probably not much but it should be zero. And they've been talked to about this and probably told him to go f himself, so he has petulantly responded with f you too.

But turning it into a constitutional crisis is standard of the Hate Americans. So why not push and let the constitution decide.

This far, they keep achieving what they are trying to curtail… an ever stronger Executive.
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BigRobSA said:

Quote:

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

Text of the 1st.

Nowhere does it make it a right for the press pool to even exist, let alone be open to Company A,B or C.

And I'm on record as thinking this is a dumb gesture by Trump, but the "muh 1st amendment...." argument doesn't hold water.

A move can be an idiotic act of petulance and still not be against the law of the land.


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BigRobSA said:

t_J_e_C_x said:

flown-the-coop said:

t_J_e_C_x said:

flown-the-coop said:

Like clockwork.

Trump remains a 45 to 47 steps ahead of his haterz. Funny AF.


I'm sure it'll just be such a bastion of truth of factual news. More in common with NK and Russia is such a win lmao

But you think CNN and MS NOW tell the truth... so there is that.


I bet I could show you a Grok report on how often Trump lies and you'd what-about to the press. I get my news from local and that's all I care to read, but even then I'm well read enough to know that big orange homie lies like he breathes

True, he's a prevaricating prevaricator. Most of the time, it's simply a bragadocious half-truth meant to highlight how much of a boss/pimp/stud he is (if even only in his own mind).

Obama, Biden, etc. lied all of the time too, but it affected us greatly. DebacleCare supposedly saving us $2500/yr or allowing us to keep our doctor, etc.


I just wanna say how much I absolutely loved your first paragraph here.
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The most attention and audience addicted person in the history of this country, just denied himself both, over (yet another) tantrum.

A pretty important part of his appeal to the (27% and declining) public who still believe there's some there there in this man) was him screeching and yelling at reporters, grunting "Quiet Piggy" etc. and now that's…gone.

Quel du mage I guess.
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Ahh state run media. Where have we heard that before?
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rsf0626 said:

Ahh state run media. Where have we heard that before?

How is this, in any way, "state run media"?

He's not dictating how they report news, nor what they report. We had the closest thing to that during COVID, under Biden.
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BigRobSA said:

rsf0626 said:

Ahh state run media. Where have we heard that before?

How is this, in any way, "state run media"?

He's not dictating how they report news, nor what they report. We had the closest thing to that during COVID, under Biden.

Its called Trump TV. You really think they arent going to be running Trump propaganda on there?
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rsf0626 said:

BigRobSA said:

rsf0626 said:

Ahh state run media. Where have we heard that before?

How is this, in any way, "state run media"?

He's not dictating how they report news, nor what they report. We had the closest thing to that during COVID, under Biden.

Its called Trump TV. You really think they arent going to be running Trump propaganda on there?

CBS, NBC and ABC plus CNN/MSNBC/FNC will still be around.

Every admin has their propaganda on the WH website.
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rsf0626 said:

Ahh state run media. Where have we heard that before?

msnbc, cnn, abc news nbc news, cbs news, 60 minutes, NPr?
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rsf0626 said:

Ahh state run media. Where have we heard that before?

State run media? What are you talking about? You don't have to watch the press briefings from the White House. You can still get the lib media slant on things. Just watch as usual.
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rsf0626 said:

BigRobSA said:

rsf0626 said:

Ahh state run media. Where have we heard that before?

How is this, in any way, "state run media"?

He's not dictating how they report news, nor what they report. We had the closest thing to that during COVID, under Biden.

Its called Trump TV. You really think they arent going to be running Trump propaganda on there?

FDR is asking on his weekly fireside chat what exactly is the problem with Trump posting his own announcements?

Pretty sure POTUS talking directly to the American people is constitutional.
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With the bad media out of these press conferences, good to know things impacting American citizens will be addressed
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So CNN and the likes reporting that the protests in Austin are spontaneous.

Fox still doing some journalism and already out noting the usual suspects on the left including the DSA and Neville Roy Singham operating out of Shanghai.

That could make for even more interesting chats with Ci.

And why CNN and others will continue to be banned.
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flown-the-coop said:

Charpie said:

So Trump will have no tv press pool now.



I mean, it was obvious what the next play is.

If CNN thinks it has a god given right to be in the room anytime POTUS wants have a gaggle, then no more gaggles.

Oopsie press.

And he'd STILL be more accessible to the press than Biden was...
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Just curious, what do folks on this thread consider "fake news?"

In my opinion, most of the "news" we get this day, from left or right, isn't actual news, it's editorial. The 24/7 news cycle forces these networks to fill space, to keep our attention and generate ad revenue, and they fill it with opinion, because the facts don't fill up the time they need to fill.

Back when we got news only in the morning, at supper, and before turning in for the night, reporting was much different, because other programming paid the bills and the news didn't need to pay for itself.Then along came these 24/7 "news" channels that had to provide both facts and entertainment, and we started entertaining ourselves to death with the talking heads and getting confused about what the news is supposed to be.

We can complain about biased reporting, but is it "reporting" we really are griping about, or the opinion we don't like because we have allowed a different revenue model to take over an essential service?

Thus is "fake news" really false reporting, or just opinion with which we disagree? If it is just opinion we dislike, let's call it what it is and then see where the First Amendment arguments take us.
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It's really rather humorous how the liberals scream this is suppression of the media never seem to recognize the FACT that when there is news that plays favorably towards Trump, that news is suppressed, not reported on by the same media crying now. Thats called corrupt and biased media.
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flown-the-coop said:

t_J_e_C_x said:

MidRatsAg said:

Red Fishing Ag93 said:

MidRatsAg said:

KillerAg21 said:

I'm not sure there are enough words that can be said to say how dystopian of an idea this is.

I used to think the people coming up with **** like this were bots, but here we are. People with Ag Tags are out here suggesting the First Amendment isn't really all that important because it's bad for Trump.

Nobody is suggesting that.

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Are we in a new era now where the world would be a better place without the "free press". I say yes. Individuals can make their case straight and unfiltered, untwisted to the people now.

The legacy media is the most damaging evil org on the planet.

The Free Press is explicitly covered in the First Amendment.

You did suggest that.


Blue parachute for you

I mean, no reason to ever actually look at the text of the constitution.

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First Amendment
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.


It does not establish a "free press" It says, quite clearly, that CONGRESS shall make no LAW abridging the freedom of the press (press is not capitalized nor defined).

It becomes a weak argument that Trump, whilst still allowing multiple news agencies to cover the WH press briefings, allowing CNN access to live video feeds afforded to others who may not be in the room due to capacity and security constraints, is somehow abridging or curtailing press access.

It's a weak argument saying that them not having access to yell negative **** at him is somehow curtailing their ability to go on their free platforms and continue spouting that negative **** to the public without interference is abridging their freedom.

Simple facts at play here. Congress made no law here abridging the freedom of the press. POTUS made a decision based on whether to continue to allow propagandist agitators to attend WH briefings under the guise of "covering the news".

Given how deranged CNN has become and their long history of lies and fabrications, Trump should prevail here.

Trump needs to let them back in, set them in the back of the room, and never call on them. The court may rule they have the "right" to be in the room. But, there is no "right" to a front row seat or to be called on.

Further, the press staff need to introduce new "decorum" rules.

You're only allowed to speak when called upon. First offense you will be told to stop. If you continue, or speak out of turn anytime later in the briefing, your rights to attend will be suspended for 1 month. A second offense results in a permanent ban.

This would apply to ALL of the press in the press briefing room. (not viewpoint related, applied equally)

It would stop the bull**** that some of them are doing. Like when Acosta wouldn't give up the mike when Trump told him to stop and even pulled the mike away from that poor staffer girl.

Remind the press that they are there at the pleasure of the POTUS and if they can't follow simple decorum rules then they have no place there.

CNN will get permanently banned in the first 2 months because they're staffed with arrogant *******s.
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Thunderstruck xx said:

All MSM are enemies of the state. Don't watch any of them.




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No Spin Ag said:

Hullabaloonatic said:

Thunderstruck xx said:

All MSM are enemies of the state. Don't watch any of them.




Hell ya bruther. Only listen to dear leader. All other sources are corrupt forces of evil.


I believe you're confusing Trump's actions towards those media outlets with what's done in North Korea and other similar countries.

Or maybe there's no confusion.

When No Spin calls you out for gaslighting, I'm pretty sure it's definitive proof you're gaslighting...
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94chem said:

Silent For Too Long said:

94chem said:

KillerAg21 said:

At this point its just how you people are. When the cult leader does it its good, and when he doesn't like something it turns bad. Safe Spaces used to be bad and now the White House has turned into one. Free Press is now the latest in the series.


Hegseth, Miller, Leavitt, Mullins, Homan, Patel, Bondi...just one lightweight sycophant after another.

So waiting for the Come to Jesus moment for the GOP, when names like Kirk, Buckley, Noonan, Will, Reagan, Scalia are respected. Not because they were always right, or always agreed with me, or anything like that. Rather, they actually believed in our institutions, rather than engaging in petulant destruction and tyranny whenever they wanted to do so.


When is your part going to respect our borders?
When is your party going to respect little girls privacy?
When is your party going to respect the 2nd amendment?
When is your party going to respect the will of their own voters during presidential primaries?

But some reporters got their feelings hurt! Oh my God the country is over!


Have voted for 2 democrats since 1990. One was for Brazos County sheriff.

So, Biden or Harris?
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flown-the-coop said:

rsf0626 said:

BigRobSA said:

rsf0626 said:

Ahh state run media. Where have we heard that before?

How is this, in any way, "state run media"?

He's not dictating how they report news, nor what they report. We had the closest thing to that during COVID, under Biden.

Its called Trump TV. You really think they arent going to be running Trump propaganda on there?

FDR is asking on his weekly fireside chat what exactly is the problem with Trump posting his own announcements?

Pretty sure POTUS talking directly to the American people is constitutional.

No. Everything DJT does is unconstitutional and illegal and treason and sedition and fascist and nazi and racist and misogynst.

Did I miss any?
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JD Vance followed Trump's lead on the ban.

Gotta love it when Trump does something incredibly dumb and JD knows it is dumb and unAmerican and inexcusable, yet like a obedient gerbil with no principles or guts JD follows suit.
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You know why the ban is happening? Because the continued lies, hoaxes, and Hate American rhetoric has led to a situation where this exists.



You paint a human as evil day in and day out and you will get this result. You dehumanize them and you make it okay to kill him.

It's what the jihadist do. What the IRGC and Kohmenis have done to Americans and Jews. It's what Hitler did to the Jews.

It's what the Democratic Party has done to MAGA and Trump.
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No shocker here

C/O 2013 - Company E2
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Totes believable.

See above why no one believes things posted on X by the left.

The left is deranged and will lie and say anything.
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t_J_e_C_x said:

No shocker here

insane twitter drivel snipped

Chef. Dog dad. Celiac. Owner of Keystone Cue & From Scratch:With Love. F&B Magazine Editors Choice Winner June '23. Mental Health Advocate. Nerd.



He claims that made up celiac disease, so automatic F13 with his opinion. No gluten, no authority.

Also Food & Beverage magazine editor's choice award winner. That screams bona fides to me.



and yes, the app may suck or may not. no way in hell would I ever install any app from the federal government regardless of which party is in power or owns the presidency.
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No, JD follows because he knows Trump is right. The press is corrupt.
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Ag with kids said:

94chem said:

Silent For Too Long said:

94chem said:

KillerAg21 said:

At this point its just how you people are. When the cult leader does it its good, and when he doesn't like something it turns bad. Safe Spaces used to be bad and now the White House has turned into one. Free Press is now the latest in the series.


Hegseth, Miller, Leavitt, Mullins, Homan, Patel, Bondi...just one lightweight sycophant after another.

So waiting for the Come to Jesus moment for the GOP, when names like Kirk, Buckley, Noonan, Will, Reagan, Scalia are respected. Not because they were always right, or always agreed with me, or anything like that. Rather, they actually believed in our institutions, rather than engaging in petulant destruction and tyranny whenever they wanted to do so.


When is your part going to respect our borders?
When is your party going to respect little girls privacy?
When is your party going to respect the 2nd amendment?
When is your party going to respect the will of their own voters during presidential primaries?

But some reporters got their feelings hurt! Oh my God the country is over!


Have voted for 2 democrats since 1990. One was for Brazos County sheriff.

So, Biden or Harris?


As much as you need to know, I have to say that your desire to make every election a trolley problem or some Helm's Deep last stand of the free world is really your psychological problem, not mine. It rankles you that I flat out reject this idea that "our" morally depraved candidates must be elected instead of "theirs," and that I don't think this will lead to a moral government at all. It never has yet, but you know, it just hasn't been done right yet, has it? LoL, chief.
94chem,
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I am glad President Trump has banned CNN, MS Now, and Politico because the liberal mainstream media only cares about destroying President Trump and the Republicans.
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Exactly. Treating them poorly, or at least not preserving their preferential status makes a lot of sense to me.

ETA: LOL.

 
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