How many wives you got, my guy?

He must live in Utah.

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What's also crazy is that Flock (or other ALPRs) don't even compensate the city because they claim to not harvest data (which I don't believe in the slightest, especially for "cleaned" data removing personal artifacts). The city and county pays them. I wouldn't do it either way, but we are funding our own AI surveillance.

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Yeah, our city council voted to pay the Flock folks to put in the cameras, we had one no vote. I have sense, on every occasion, made the comment that we need to vote out anyone on council who voted for the Flock cameras. Some of them are friends of mine, probably not as much as they used to be, lol, and one is my best wife's best friend. They were stupid to vote to spend this money on spying on people.

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Freudian slip right there???
Now we know why you don't like Flock! You've got secrets you're trying to keep!

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500,000ags said:

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What's also crazy is that Flock (or other ALPRs) don't even compensate the city because they claim to not harvest data (which I don't believe in the slightest, especially for "cleaned" data removing personal artifacts). The city and county pays them. I wouldn't do it either way, but we are funding our own AI surveillance.

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Yeah, our city council voted to pay the Flock folks to put in the cameras, we had one no vote. I have sense, on every occasion, made the comment that we need to vote out anyone on council who voted for the Flock cameras. Some of them are friends of mine, probably not as much as they used to be, lol, and one is my best wife's best friend. They were stupid to vote to spend this money on spying on people.

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What did your worst wife's best friend have to say on the matter?

How is Utah this time of year anyway?

Four replies in 30 minutes, all jumping on the same comment.

I love TexAgs

He probably has typo blood too.

/lilhorn

It's been 8 hours...
Did that post prove to not put him in One Safe Place?

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I don't understand how anyone can just be like I don't do anything wrong, so I have nothing to worry about. Within 6 months we have the state being overrun with compute hardware and cameras that make surveillance incredibly powerful. Querying in plain English to identify and predict movement, buying, and all other behaviors. And it's not a coincidence that local leaders aren't consulting their constituents. It's clear they are benefiting or being influenced by higher government that is benefitting. I don't even want to think what this looks like 6 years from now, versus just the last 6 months with additional advances in AI. My worry is these cameras eventually get into AI drones, and then woof.

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This X 1000. For all you out there saying it's no problem, are you really going to be happy when you get a ticket in the mail because the flock camera says you didn't signal your turn on a road when no one else was within a half mile, or you made that right on red without a complete stop? Or you pulled into your drive without a signal? Or any of a million other tiny silly things that you could be cited for?

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And...

There's a good chance that they don't have proof that YOU were driving. It could have been ANYONE driving your vehicle.

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Had to laugh yesterday. Heading into town with a water sample to take to the lab. They had just installed one out in the country 2 miles from Gainesville at the intersection of 2 fm to market roads. No idea why there, but wasn't happy about it. Driving past yesterday, already laying flat in the bar ditch. Awesome. Lasted 10 days.

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I'll have to check.

Last Friday I was driving home onto N Padre Island and realized they had one after got past the bottom of the bridge...

I kept my head on a swivel and didn't see any others the rest of the way home, BUT...those ****ers are sneaky.

Not sure which Flock thread to post all the absurdity in, so I'll land this video here today…

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How many wives you got, my guy?

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lol, just the one! I used sense rather than since, too. Damn, and I wasn't even drinking.

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one safe place said:

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500,000ags said:

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What's also crazy is that Flock (or other ALPRs) don't even compensate the city because they claim to not harvest data (which I don't believe in the slightest, especially for "cleaned" data removing personal artifacts). The city and county pays them. I wouldn't do it either way, but we are funding our own AI surveillance.

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Yeah, our city council voted to pay the Flock folks to put in the cameras, we had one no vote. I have sense, on every occasion, made the comment that we need to vote out anyone on council who voted for the Flock cameras. Some of them are friends of mine, probably not as much as they used to be, lol, and one is my best wife's best friend. They were stupid to vote to spend this money on spying on people.

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Freudian slip right there???
Now we know why you don't like Flock! You've got secrets you're trying to keep!

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I have looked into this, and have determined she is my best wife and my worst wife, all rolled into one.

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one safe place said:

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500,000ags said:

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What's also crazy is that Flock (or other ALPRs) don't even compensate the city because they claim to not harvest data (which I don't believe in the slightest, especially for "cleaned" data removing personal artifacts). The city and county pays them. I wouldn't do it either way, but we are funding our own AI surveillance.

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Yeah, our city council voted to pay the Flock folks to put in the cameras, we had one no vote. I have sense, on every occasion, made the comment that we need to vote out anyone on council who voted for the Flock cameras. Some of them are friends of mine, probably not as much as they used to be, lol, and one is my best wife's best friend. They were stupid to vote to spend this money on spying on people.

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What did your worst wife's best friend have to say on the matter?

How is Utah this time of year anyway?

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My worst wife is unable to talk and I never learned to sign other than when she flips me off, I do know what she is saying then. Never been to Utah and pretty sure I never will!

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This is disturbing. There is no way that you give government this kind of surveillance power and it doesn't get abused. Say the wrong thing or take the wrong political stance, make the wrong official mad, and they could destroy you.

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Yet thousands of municipalities across this country signed up for it. And none of them had the sense to realize or care about what they were buying.

And now they're fighting tooth and nail to keep it. City councils that are supposed to represent the people.

Under investigation all the time. We know you have committed a crime comrade, we just can't prove it yet.

"Under Flock, we are all under investigation, at all times, for all crimes."

Dr. Viet Trinh, of THE Ohio State University at Columbus City Council. https://t.co/9QrAMpJfot pic.twitter.com/SiLMQvOcXr

— Have I Been Flocked? (@HIBFlocked) August 11, 2026

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Ag87H2O said:

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This is disturbing. There is no way that you give government this kind of surveillance power and it doesn't get abused. Say the wrong thing or take the wrong political stance, make the wrong official mad, and they could destroy you.

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Yet thousands of municipalities across this country signed up for it. And none of them had the sense to realize or care about what they were buying.

And now they're fighting tooth and nail to keep it. City councils that are supposed to represent the people.

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They're fighting tooth and nail to keep it because they're voting for their personal wallets. Flock cameras means more tickets means more revenue means higher paychecks for council members. Always look at financial benefits first, that is where you'll usually find your answer.

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CS78 said:

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Ag87H2O said:

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This is disturbing. There is no way that you give government this kind of surveillance power and it doesn't get abused. Say the wrong thing or take the wrong political stance, make the wrong official mad, and they could destroy you.

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Yet thousands of municipalities across this country signed up for it. And none of them had the sense to realize or care about what they were buying.

And now they're fighting tooth and nail to keep it. City councils that are supposed to represent the people.

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They're fighting tooth and nail to keep it because they're voting for their personal wallets. Flock cameras means more tickets means more revenue means higher paychecks for council members. Always look at financial benefits first, that is where you'll usually find your answer.

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I think a lot of it comes from them just simply being on the same team as the police chief, DA, etc. They often share the same office spaces, go to meetings together, work on projects together, etc. When the police chief says this makes our job easier, they don't have the spine to go against him. Until public pressure hits a point of costing people elections, they just find convenient excuses to toe the line.

That and nothing boost a politicians talking points like being able to say "I reduced crime by X amount". If they think cameras might reduce a statistic they can use for their political gain, they dont give two poops about some constitution.

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Backyard Gator said:

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CS78 said:

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Ag87H2O said:

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This is disturbing. There is no way that you give government this kind of surveillance power and it doesn't get abused. Say the wrong thing or take the wrong political stance, make the wrong official mad, and they could destroy you.

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Yet thousands of municipalities across this country signed up for it. And none of them had the sense to realize or care about what they were buying.

And now they're fighting tooth and nail to keep it. City councils that are supposed to represent the people.

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They're fighting tooth and nail to keep it because they're voting for their personal wallets. Flock cameras means more tickets means more revenue means higher paychecks for council members. Always look at financial benefits first, that is where you'll usually find your answer.

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I think a lot of it comes from them just simply being on the same team as the police chief, DA, etc. They often share the same office spaces, go to meetings together, work on projects together, etc. When the police chief says this makes our job easier, they don't have the spine to go against him. Until public pressure hits a point of costing people elections, they just find convenient excuses to toe the line.

That and nothing boost a politicians talking points like being able to say "I reduced crime by X amount". If they think cameras might reduce a statistic they can use for their political gain, they dont give two poops about some constitution.

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Meh. Reducing crime is easy, you just change the definition. Declare all purse snatching as misdemeanors and not felonies, and you can claim felony larceny dropped by 20% (or whatever percentage you make up) under your watch.

Police chiefs and DAs like it because more revenue also means higher salaries for them.

Literally everyone has explained this, but Michael was busy with his head in his ass.

Flock cameras don't just see you if you're doing back things. They see you *always.* The videos are stored significantly longer than they claim, which has been proven... repeatedly.

They… https://t.co/cKNnRX5OfE

— Kyle Davis (@orcawhale) August 11, 2026

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Literally everyone has explained this, but Michael was busy with his head in his ass.

Flock cameras don't just see you if you're doing back things. They see you *always.* The videos are stored significantly longer than they claim, which has been proven... repeatedly.

They record your kids. They record your family. They record you.

They then store that in a database so that police can track you, if needed! Or if not needed. If they DECIDE to. Which we have seen *thousands* of times just in the last month from Flock alone (not including Axon).

Now, as a security researcher, this gets even worse. The cameras have already had multiple vulnerabilities, even allowing a layman to stroll up to them, connect to them, and do whatever they wanted. Let's pretend Flock fixes that (they can't), though.

Those videos are in a database. Assuming you can trust Flock to not look into those databases (you can't), then you still have the weak link in ANY security system: the users.

Do you trust cops to have good, strong passwords? To never fall for phishing, smishing, spear phishing, or other social attacks? Because, if you do, you're stupid. Putting a badge on doesn't stop you from being human and even the best security firms have social attacks on them.

Once a hacker's in and can track anyone, can you really not see how that's a problem? If you say you can't, then you're not being honest.

Flock (and any ALPR, etc) has nothing but downsides. You're violating the 4th Amendment rights of hundreds of millions of people just in case police can't do their jobs while also trying to sell the lie that they'll never abuse their position. It's laughably stupid.

The surveillance state is evil and will never be anything less than evil. The "if you're not doing anything wrong, you have nothing to hide" crowd should go ahead and post their location online at all times so anyone can track them. They're not doing anything wrong, right?

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This is all under control, big brother has your best interests at heart.


Notice how quickly they can act when they are the victims

City officials in Millcreek, Utah, recently found a Flock automated license plate reader on municipal property and say they never approved its installation or know who put it there.​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​ pic.twitter.com/NM2mn4kEiB

— Kacee Allen (@KaceeRAllen) August 12, 2026

BTW - one aspect I haven't seen addressed (but i haven't ready the whole thread) - there are a lot of Chinese components used in these cameras. It is not out of the question that these components could be used to get the flock cameras feed to be sent - somewhere else? Like in the far east? Like to spy on the US.?

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Police chiefs and DAs like it because more revenue also means higher salaries for them.

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DAs are paid by the state. This has no effect on their salary.

Like the UK K3 Scout drones that had Chinese components and sent data back to China

Have YOU been flocked?

Http://haveibeenflocked.com

(From the videos above)

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Have YOU been flocked?

Http://haveibeenflocked.com

(From the videos above)

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Thanks for the link.

I haven't, per the site, but I'm still sharing this far and wide.

I do not believe that website is accurate, I typed in 20 different t plate numbers, many belonging to people that drive all over the country and each one said no Flock readings

Add this to the mix. From Instapundit today:

Joining radio signal data with flock imaging.

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Imagine that you share a ride to work with the same colleague most mornings. As it passes by a license plate reader, the camera records the car, which can be linked through vehicle records to its registered owner. Beside it, another sensor detects signals broadcast by devices traveling nearby, such as your phone and your colleague's smartwatch.

After enough trips, software may treat some of those devices as a recurring electronic signature associated with the vehicle. Weeks later, one of the same device signals appears alongside a different car connected to an investigation. The signal itself may not contain its owner's name, but its previous association with a known vehicle gives investigators another clue they can use to work out who was carrying the device.

SignalTrace, a system marketed by the security company Leonardo, is designed to work alongside automatic license plate readers. The company says it can recognize groups of consumer devices that regularly move together, then associate them with license plate records and time-stamped locations. The pattern can then be searched even when a police investigator does not know the plate number.

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TLDR: Matching the radio signals from any device in the car (whether belonging to the driver or not) to the car it is in OR NEAR that is logged by the Flocking Camera.

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I do not believe that website is accurate, I typed in 20 different t plate numbers, many belonging to people that drive all over the country and each one said no Flock readings

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The site is not meant to be a database of every time a Flock camera captures a license plate. It is meant to show how many times someone (such as a law officer *cough or hacker *cough) does a SEARCH for that particular license plate. So unless your plate numbers belong to stolen vehicles or people who committed crimes, they probably won't come up on a search.

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500,000ags said:

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How many wives you got, my guy?

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lol, just the one! I used sense rather than since, too. Damn, and I wasn't even drinking.

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Maybe you should!

Backyard Gator said:

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CS78 said:

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Backyard Gator said:

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Ag87H2O said:

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This is disturbing. There is no way that you give government this kind of surveillance power and it doesn't get abused. Say the wrong thing or take the wrong political stance, make the wrong official mad, and they could destroy you.

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Yet thousands of municipalities across this country signed up for it. And none of them had the sense to realize or care about what they were buying.

And now they're fighting tooth and nail to keep it. City councils that are supposed to represent the people.

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They're fighting tooth and nail to keep it because they're voting for their personal wallets. Flock cameras means more tickets means more revenue means higher paychecks for council members. Always look at financial benefits first, that is where you'll usually find your answer.

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I think a lot of it comes from them just simply being on the same team as the police chief, DA, etc. They often share the same office spaces, go to meetings together, work on projects together, etc. When the police chief says this makes our job easier, they don't have the spine to go against him. Until public pressure hits a point of costing people elections, they just find convenient excuses to toe the line.

That and nothing boost a politicians talking points like being able to say "I reduced crime by X amount". If they think cameras might reduce a statistic they can use for their political gain, they dont give two poops about some constitution.

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Meh. Reducing crime is easy, you just change the definition. Declare all purse snatching as misdemeanors and not felonies, and you can claim felony larceny dropped by 20% (or whatever percentage you make up) under your watch.

Police chiefs and DAs like it because more revenue also means higher salaries for them.

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It's a combination of factors. The defund the police movement shrunk a lot of budgets, there was already a downturn in the amount of cops entering the workforce vs leaving it, and there's definitely leverage of some kind coming into play. You have LE leadership considering them a force multiplier (every camera is essentially a cop going "Papers!), and a lot of LE consider the 1st, 4th, and 5th as barriers to being able to do their job rather than rights that take precedent.

League City voters will have an opportunity to weigh in on the city's use of Flock license plate-reading cameras after City Council voted Tuesday evening to place a nonbinding referendum on the November ballot.


https://kgtx7news.com/2026/08/11/advisory-referendum-on-flock-cameras-in-league-city/