Funny you mention being a lawyer; pretty lengthy history about lawyers being disbarred for unethical behavior.

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Well, TMB may be thinking otherwise. Sounds like it could fall under ethical and professional violations to me

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Catch all bs like that can be used to censor speech from both sides and I am opposed to that.

If she takes some harmful actions to her patients, that is a different story.

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Her bias has shown that she cannot be trusted to offer the same level of care regardless of a patients political ideology.

Also, perhaps read up on this lady. Not the first time she's gone off the deep end.

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That cuts both ways and is not the role of the government to police speech for private employment. Period. The end.

If I said I hate Arabs, cannot I still be an attorney in private practice if my clients still want to hire me?

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So if you are a conservative you are 100% ok with taking your children to her for care? If so you are an idiot. Z

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Apparently you're the idiot because I have already answered that question. I do not voluntarily associate with liberals or allow my children to do so.

I have the ability to research people that treat my kids. She would have never been anywhere near my kids.

But the government should not be allowed to take her license for speech only.

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Funny you mention being a lawyer; pretty lengthy history about lawyers being disbarred for unethical behavior.

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Not for political speech.

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Funny you mention being a lawyer; pretty lengthy history about lawyers being disbarred for unethical behavior.

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Not for political speech.

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This wasn't just political. It's a matter of ethics and morals.

Her comments were not strictly that of political speech. They were comments that draw a direct line to her morals and ethics as a person whose foundation is built on "DO NO HARM!" Which her comments absolutely did and they call into question her ability to practice medicine and provide the same level of care to all patients. Regardless of their beliefs.

Keep preaching KT. I'm with you.

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Funny you mention being a lawyer; pretty lengthy history about lawyers being disbarred for unethical behavior.

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Not for political speech.

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This wasn't just political. It's a matter of ethics and morals.

Her comments were not strictly that of political speech. They were comments that draw a direct line to her morals and ethics as a person whose foundation is built on "DO NO HARM!" Which her comments absolutely did.

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Again. If I say in a speech that I hate all Arabs can I no longer practice law? That would be considered pretty offensive to a lot of people and would call into question my morals.

All good. I think I misunderstood so my bad.

Wrong emoji.

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All good. I think I misunderstood so my bad.

Wrong emoji.

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No worries. I wasn't offended. This is the place to have these discussions and push people to defend their positions.

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Well, TMB may be thinking otherwise. Sounds like it could fall under ethical and professional violations to me

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Catch all bs like that can be used to censor speech from both sides and I am opposed to that.

If she takes some harmful actions to her patients, that is a different story.

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Her bias has shown that she cannot be trusted to offer the same level of care regardless of a patients political ideology.

Also, perhaps read up on this lady. Not the first time she's gone off the deep end.

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That cuts both ways and is not the role of the government to police speech for private employment. Period. The end.

If I said I hate Arabs, cannot I still be an attorney in private practice if my clients still want to hire me?

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The government didn't fire her, the hospital did. Huge difference. Take up another hill to die on. Free speech has consequences associated with it.

Does the Bar Association not have the discretion to pull your bar card if your comments rose to level of such depravity as Propst?

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Well, TMB may be thinking otherwise. Sounds like it could fall under ethical and professional violations to me

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Catch all bs like that can be used to censor speech from both sides and I am opposed to that.

If she takes some harmful actions to her patients, that is a different story.

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Her bias has shown that she cannot be trusted to offer the same level of care regardless of a patients political ideology.

Also, perhaps read up on this lady. Not the first time she's gone off the deep end.

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That cuts both ways and is not the role of the government to police speech for private employment. Period. The end.

If I said I hate Arabs, cannot I still be an attorney in private practice if my clients still want to hire me?

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The government didn't fire her, the hospital did. Huge difference. Take up another hill to die on. Free speech has consequences associated with it.

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That was an excellent choice by her employer and I applaud them for it. The people I am arguing with want her medical license revoked and that is a no go for me.

I am a staunch free speech advocate.

If you cannot see the distinction maybe you're not sharp enough to continue engaging in this discussion.

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Does the Bar Association not have the discretion to pull your bar card if your comments rose to level of such depravity as Propst?

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I would argue no they do not. Now if she acted on them to the detriment of one of her patients, they should nail her ass to the wall.

Well this is the current president of TMB. So I guess time will tell.

The "at the moment" portion leads me to believe there is further disciplinary actions in discussion.

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Well, TMB may be thinking otherwise. Sounds like it could fall under ethical and professional violations to me

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Catch all bs like that can be used to censor speech from both sides and I am opposed to that.

If she takes some harmful actions to her patients, that is a different story.

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Her bias has shown that she cannot be trusted to offer the same level of care regardless of a patients political ideology.

Also, perhaps read up on this lady. Not the first time she's gone off the deep end.

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That cuts both ways and is not the role of the government to police speech for private employment. Period. The end.

If I said I hate Arabs, cannot I still be an attorney in private practice if my clients still want to hire me?

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The government didn't fire her, the hospital did. Huge difference. Take up another hill to die on. Free speech has consequences associated with it.

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That was an excellent choice by her employer and I applaud them for it. The people I am arguing with want her medical license revoked and that is a no go for me.

I am a staunch free speech advocate.

If you cannot see the distinction maybe you're not sharp enough to continue engaging in this discussion.

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Sharp enough? Try not to be a jackass. Sharp enough for you? Again, free speech has consequences and the board can do as it pleases. Play extremely stupid games and win extraordinary prizes.

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Doxxing her is fine. Let the public make her unemployable is also a good thing. Having the government take her license for espousing a vile opinion crosses the line. That is not the role of the government.

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Maybe a hot take, but I don't want a pediatrician who hates half of the kids to treat any kids in the future. I'm 100% okay with her losing her license.

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That is not up to the government to determine from someone's speech. That is a slippery slope that we do not want in this country. Free speech should be protected.

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Are doctors not held to a moral and ethical standard? Doesn't the Hippocratic Oath have a standard of respect for human life?

This lady violated everything a physician should stand for and be.

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Read the very last line of the TMB's statement and see if you can issue spot the problem with suspending her license for speech only.

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Well, TMB may be thinking otherwise. Sounds like it could fall under ethical and professional violations to me

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Catch all bs like that can be used to censor speech from both sides and I am opposed to that.

If she takes some harmful actions to her patients, that is a different story.

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Her bias has shown that she cannot be trusted to offer the same level of care regardless of a patients political ideology.

Also, perhaps read up on this lady. Not the first time she's gone off the deep end.

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That cuts both ways and is not the role of the government to police speech for private employment. Period. The end.

If I said I hate Arabs, cannot I still be an attorney in private practice if my clients still want to hire me?

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The government didn't fire her, the hospital did. Huge difference. Take up another hill to die on. Free speech has consequences associated with it.

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That was an excellent choice by her employer and I applaud them for it. The people I am arguing with want her medical license revoked and that is a no go for me.

I am a staunch free speech advocate.

If you cannot see the distinction maybe you're not sharp enough to continue engaging in this discussion.

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Sharp enough? Try not to be a jackass. Sharp enough for you? Again, free speech has consequences and the board can do as it pleases. Play extremely stupid games and win extraordinary prizes.

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I disagree with you. I think the constitution protects her speech without her taking some action based on her professed beliefs that hurts a patient under her care.

Probably not her first complaint.

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She's apparently been a political hack for a while

Houston pediatrician Dr. Christina Propst criticizes Texas Governor Greg Abbott's order banning mask mandates in schools. "What he is doing is a direct threat to the health and wellbeing of the children of Texas." pic.twitter.com/wNVPN6ITQC

— Democracy Now! (@democracynow) August 10, 2021

Dr. Christina Propst, a Houston-based pediatrician: "What's happening in Texas right now is one giant step backwards... politicians like Ted Cruz, who have no medical training, are interfering with how Texas physicians practice medicine"

— Texas Signal (@TexasSignal) October 8, 2024

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Well figures she was born and raised in New York

Note the last line "while treating or attempting to treat". Also note TMB calls them "political" comments.

I've been appearing before the TMB over 20 years. Pulling her license for this would be well beyond their authority in my opinion.

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Well, TMB may be thinking otherwise. Sounds like it could fall under ethical and professional violations to me

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Catch all bs like that can be used to censor speech from both sides and I am opposed to that.

If she takes some harmful actions to her patients, that is a different story.

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Her bias has shown that she cannot be trusted to offer the same level of care regardless of a patients political ideology.

Also, perhaps read up on this lady. Not the first time she's gone off the deep end.

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That cuts both ways and is not the role of the government to police speech for private employment. Period. The end.

If I said I hate Arabs, cannot I still be an attorney in private practice if my clients still want to hire me?

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The government didn't fire her, the hospital did. Huge difference. Take up another hill to die on. Free speech has consequences associated with it.

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Those consequences are losing patients and losing a private sector job. Not being punished by the government.

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Within the confines of the first amendment and law, yes. Punishing her for speech does not fall within that.

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She's apparently been a political hack for a while

Houston pediatrician Dr. Christina Propst criticizes Texas Governor Greg Abbott's order banning mask mandates in schools. "What he is doing is a direct threat to the health and wellbeing of the children of Texas." pic.twitter.com/wNVPN6ITQC

— Democracy Now! (@democracynow) August 10, 2021

Dr. Christina Propst, a Houston-based pediatrician: "What's happening in Texas right now is one giant step backwards... politicians like Ted Cruz, who have no medical training, are interfering with how Texas physicians practice medicine"

— Texas Signal (@TexasSignal) October 8, 2024

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I'm shocked by the lack of cats walking in front of and behind the camera during that video clip.

Me thinks she has lots of cats...

It's pretty simple folks. Actions, which include words, have consequences. She broke the rules / covenants of her employment and lost her job. Which is good.

If she's found to be practicing bad medicine or worse biased medicine based on political beliefs she should lose her license to practice.

However, she's effectively lost her license by being fired. She will carry the stigma with her forever. She should have just "kept her mouth shut and just dribbled..."

My God....

BOTTOM LINE:

Trump killed those kids in Texas.

It’s his fault.

Blame him.

He will kill again.

— Malcolm Nance (@MalcolmNance) July 8, 2025

DDG says Probst got her MD from Tulane. She must have left NY a long time ago. She should go back, imho. She has no future in medicine in the state of Texas. Maybe she can move to Canada, or Cuba even.

I would not take my kids to her (when they were pediatrician age), but I do think her license is a more difficult call. Reason being is that knowing where these professional boards are going, yanking licenses due to personal speech outside of the treatment facility is a weapon I expect liberals to use and conservative doctors to be at much more risk. Yanking her license could be a win the battle, lose the war move.

I do think her speech warrants an investigation into her professional practices though; I think she invited that on herself. I am not willing to assume this has not manifested in how she practices; now that she put these extreme views out there, it needs to be reviewed. In the meantime, the market will make that decision by firing her from the practice and patients abandoning her, as it should

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Well, TMB may be thinking otherwise. Sounds like it could fall under ethical and professional violations to me

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Catch all bs like that can be used to censor speech from both sides and I am opposed to that.

If she takes some harmful actions to her patients, that is a different story.

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Her bias has shown that she cannot be trusted to offer the same level of care regardless of a patients political ideology.

Also, perhaps read up on this lady. Not the first time she's gone off the deep end.

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That cuts both ways and is not the role of the government to police speech for private employment. Period. The end.

If I said I hate Arabs, cannot I still be an attorney in private practice if my clients still want to hire me?

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The government didn't fire her, the hospital did. Huge difference. Take up another hill to die on. Free speech has consequences associated with it.

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Those consequences are losing patients and losing a private sector job. Not being punished by the government.

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I guess ethics and integrity don't matter anymore. She's free to say what she wants, but again there's consequences for that. Not only did she not stay in her lane, she went off the cliff.

She should have had her license pulled a couple of years ago when she publicly targeted another pediatrician on social media that did not want to administer the Covid vaccine to her young patients.

She encouraged people to file complaints to the state board against the doctor even if they had no affiliation with her. She went as far as creating a step by step process to file the complaint and how to fill out the forms.

She got away with it back then, she thought she was untouchable, so it only emboldened her to show just how vile she is now.

This case is simple, pull her license for mental incapacity.
Making a public statement that children deserve to die for their parent's political affiliation is not something any sane person would publicly post.

Can her ass and take it away. Enough said.

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She's free to say what she wants, but again there's consequences for that.

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I don't think anyone here has claimed there are no consequences. losing her job, will lose most of her patients, name is essentially mud now.

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no disagreement there. but still does not change the first amendment analysis here.

Shows how polarized we are as a culture and how we've programmed that everything is binary. Everything is left vs right. This is how empires crumble.

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I don't think anyone here has claimed there are no consequences. losing her job, will lose most of her patients, name is essentially mud now.

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First amendment has nothing to do with keeping your job. You're free to say it and not go to jail for it, but you still suffer consequences for your words.

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She's free to say what she wants, but again there's consequences for that.

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It's funny because the liberals always attack on the basis of free speech until one of them crosses the line then they "cling" to the amendment like a life preserver.

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It is terrifying that conservatives do not understand this or realize that it is far more likely to be used to punish conservative political speech. I assume these are fellow conservatives.

People saying the only thing you are protected from the first amendment is incarceration by the government are idiots.

Can you imagine getting your drivers license revoked for speech? You can effectively kill off someone for speech long before incarceration.

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It's funny because the liberals always attack on the basis of free speech until one of them crosses the line then they "cling" to the amendment like a life preserver.

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Of course they do, they are hypocrites. But that should not cause us to abandon our founding principles.

I feel just as strongly about the 2nd amendment as well.

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First amendment has nothing to do with keeping your job. You're free to say it and not go to jail for it, but you still suffer consequences for your words.

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She didn't keep her job. The private company fired her. I don't see anyone saying they couldn't or shouldn't have done that. The only "support" she gets is her license shouldn't be affected by political speech.