Mass casualty event New Orleans

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Why did he choose 3am for the attack instead of closer to midnight when the street would have been packed?
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Less cops and security?
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Same reason that homeless people steal shopping carts, tarps, plywood, tools, etc. Or take it to carry your beer around and then toss it aside when you're on the last one. Sure there's more, but that's the idea. It obviously didn't happen, but it still seems weird to me.
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I wondered this as well.
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GAC06 said:

Why did he choose 3am for the attack instead of closer to midnight when the street would have been packed?
According to reports I have seen, he was not placing the coolers with IEDs until well after midnight past one o'clock nearing two. Maybe he needed to do some final assembly? And that put him behind?

I have not seen any photos of the AirBNB that burned that was reportedly connected to him. How far away from the French Quarter was that located? Where did he park the truck on side streets to walk the coolers into position on Bourbon?

I still tend to lean into the narrative that he miscalculated the range on the remote detonators and then had to use the truck to get closer.
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Just wondering why he didn't go for 11pm-1am when he could have done a lot more damage. Maybe we're just fortunate that he was irrational/an idiot
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GAC06 said:

Just wondering why he didn't go for 11pm-1am when he could have done a lot more damage. Maybe we're just fortunate that he was irrational/an idiot
He left his place outside of Houston, sometime Monday, telling his neighbors his lease was up and he was taking a new job in NOLA and had a furnished house there already. He also had given his landlord a 30 day notice of his intent to vacate.

The press was allowed into that place outside of Houston. He left his clothing, even his prayer rug and Koran behind. As well as computers and chemicals and bomb making materials. IOW a crap ton of evidence. And we know the press was allowed in after the feds or HPD had been there because the federal court search warrant (from judge in NOLA) was there on the counter. It was not cordoned off as a potential crime scene, to see if anyone else as helping him and left DNA or trace evidence behind.

Sloppy police work. Very sloppy.
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ccolley68 said:

Doubt he was setting out yetis that tend to grow legs the fastest.

I get the sentiment, but even if someone was interested in stealing the cooler, what are they going to do with it, just walk around bourbon st with a cooler?


This is more common that you think, NOLA has no open container laws so alot of people just carry around a smaller cooler or have a cooler in a canvas wagon and pull drinks from it rather than buy from a bar. (I've done this a lot)
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Shoot - a decent chance he probably could have paraded around the sidewalks in fatigues and the ISIS flag and people would have just blinked and walked by. Most people aren't going to do anything.
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aggiehawg said:

GAC06 said:

Why did he choose 3am for the attack instead of closer to midnight when the street would have been packed?
According to reports I have seen, he was not placing the coolers with IEDs until well after midnight past one o'clock nearing two. Maybe he needed to do some final assembly? And that put him behind?

I have not seen any photos of the AirBNB that burned that was reportedly connected to him. How far away from the French Quarter was that located? Where did he park the truck on side streets to walk the coolers into position on Bourbon?

I still tend to lean into the narrative that he miscalculated the range on the remote detonators and then had to use the truck to get closer.


About 10 small blocks from the edge of the Quarter or a five minute drive.

Ive parked further when going to the Quarter during busy times. He could have walked to the heart of the quarter from the AirBnB in about 15 minutes.

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Thanks for the clarification.
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Maybe the bombs were his original plan but they failed so he got frustrated and instead just barreled down the street trying to run people over.
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Frok said:

Maybe the bombs were his original plan but they failed so he got frustrated and instead just barreled down the street trying to run people over.


Possible, but he has the ISIS flag mounted on the hitch which makes it seem like the truck was part of the original plan
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Transmitter for the bombs was in his truck. My guess is either he wanted to detonate them as he passed them, or he intended to blow them after hitting people at those locations when people were responding with assistance to the injured.
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Looks like he hit construction equipment and didn't make it down Bourbon Street as far as he planned.
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FTAG 2000 said:

Transmitter for the bombs was in his truck. My guess is either he wanted to detonate them as he passed them, or he intended to blow them after hitting people at those locations when people were responding with assistance to the injured.
That was my thought. Blow them as he passes to cut off pursuit and cause mass damage. People will rush to check on injuries and be vulnerable to the explosives
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So I see LEOs were back on scene at his house in Houston this morning.

If it was important enough to return to then it should've been secured.
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Welp, apparently my posts are being monitored...

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HARRIS COUNTY, Texas - Investigators have returned to the home of Shamsud-Din Jabbar in north Harris County on Friday to collect evidence, sources say. Jabbar was killed by officers after he drove a truck down New Orleans' Bourbon Street on New Year's Day, killing 14 people and injuring dozens more, the FBI reported.

The Harris County Sheriff's Office bomb squad along with four unmarked SUVs returned to the address with large evidence collection trucks to gather items and evidence, sources reported.

Authorities are returning a day after Jabbar's home was left open and people were seen videoing inside the home and roaming around.
After the NY Post video surfaced, maybe someone actually got an earful???

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More info, just starting now so no review.
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Listening to that Shawn Ryan episode as well
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mpl35 said:

FTAG 2000 said:

Transmitter for the bombs was in his truck. My guess is either he wanted to detonate them as he passed them, or he intended to blow them after hitting people at those locations when people were responding with assistance to the injured.
That was my thought. Blow them as he passes to cut off pursuit and cause mass damage. People will rush to check on injuries and be vulnerable to the explosives



My thought is maybe he wanted to detonate them BEFORE turning down the street. Would've sent a massive wave of people running toward him as he mowed them down.
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Both are plausible scenarios!

I'm Gipper
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TheAggiesAreWe03 said:

mpl35 said:

FTAG 2000 said:

Transmitter for the bombs was in his truck. My guess is either he wanted to detonate them as he passed them, or he intended to blow them after hitting people at those locations when people were responding with assistance to the injured.
That was my thought. Blow them as he passes to cut off pursuit and cause mass damage. People will rush to check on injuries and be vulnerable to the explosives



My thought is maybe he wanted to detonate them BEFORE turning down the street. Would've sent a massive wave of people running toward him as he mowed them down.
thats messed up but makes sense. ****ing terrorists.
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We may have an answer on the conversion question:

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Mr. Jabbar's father grew up as Christian but later turned to Islam, changing his last name from Young to Jabbar and also giving some of his children Arabic names.



https://dnyuz.com/2025/01/04/i-joined-isis-the-new-orleans-attackers-secret-radicalization/


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Apologies, I'm sure this has been discussed before, but did there turn out to be an actual connection between the guy and college station Muslims?
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Why does this thread keep getting derailed?

Is there any other actual news regarding this mass murder?
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Staff, please clean up this thread to keep it to actual news and all others can take their trash views to the religion board.
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His electric truck was already headed toward New Orleans, traveling from his trailer home outside Houston and past the twinkling oil refineries to the east, when Shamsud-Din Jabbar began capturing a video on his phone in the dark.

"I wanted to record this message for my family," Mr. Jabbar said. "I wanted you to know that I joined ISIS earlier this year."

Mr. Jabbar then added a chilling addendum.

"I don't want you to think I spared you willingly," he said, according to details of the video reviewed by The New York Times. He told his family that he had previously conceived of organizing a "celebration" for them and then making everyone "witness the killing of the apostates."

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Many who lived in the area said they worried about the new attention brought to their community and were frustrated that they were now being connected to Mr. Jabbar simply because he had lived, in the last months of his life, just down the street.

"He wasn't a member of this congregation, he wasn't someone that used to come here, and he had no part in this community whatsoever," said Mohammed Khan, a member of the Bilal Mosque. Online anti-Muslim vitriol since the attack has only deepened their concerns, he added.

Inside the mosque, Ayman Kabire of the Islamic Society of Greater Houston, who served as the imam on Friday, condemned Mr. Jabbar's attack, reminding those gathered that their faith was rooted in peace.

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Recordings about Islamic teachings were posted to an account on the audio website SoundCloud that appears to belong to Mr. Jabbar; the voice was verified by his half brother. In one of them, he warned that music had the power to lure people "into the things that God had made forbidden to us," such as alcohol, marijuana, vulgarity and crime.

The recording goes on to suggest a connection between the release of "Get Rich or Die Tryin'," a rap album by 50 Cent, and a series of murders in his neighborhood. He said he worried that Muslims listening to such music were being drawn into evil.

"And the voice of Satan spreading among Prophet Muhammad's followers peace be upon him is a sign of the end times," he said in the message about a year ago, in early 2024.
Have to say The Old Gray Lady kept it between the ditches. Must have been an extensive interview w/ his half brother.

Seems to be new info about the video recordings and sound cloud account...

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Sara Adams mentioned new explosive compounds that dogs and the US security measures could not detect, looks like her intel may be correct
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Seems like common bomb builder knowledge if a twice divorced depressed realtor sole actor realtor knows.
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What's the source on that?
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BMX Bandit said:

What's the source on that?
The driver who killed 14 people in an ISIS-inspired vehicular attack in New Orleans used a very rare explosive compound in two homemade bombs that did not detonate, two senior law enforcement officials briefed on the matter told NBC News.

The explosive has never been used in a U.S. terrorist attack or incident, nor in a European one, the officials said. A key question for investigators now is how Shamsud-Din Jabbar, the attacker, learned about the explosive and how he managed to produce it.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/new-orleans-attack-transmitter-explosive-devices-fire-airbnb-fbi-rcna186223
Old Army has gone to hell.
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Yeah, read that this morning. The rare compound was not identified. And now POTUS is coming here tomorrow. Joy.
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Thanks.

Don't know how anyone at fbi expects people to think he's acting alone. First, these Islam terrorists never act alone. But this makes it even more obvious
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Old Army Ghost said:

BMX Bandit said:

What's the source on that?
The driver who killed 14 people in an ISIS-inspired vehicular attack in New Orleans used a very rare explosive compound in two homemade bombs that did not detonate, two senior law enforcement officials briefed on the matter told NBC News.

The explosive has never been used in a U.S. terrorist attack or incident, nor in a European one, the officials said. A key question for investigators now is how Shamsud-Din Jabbar, the attacker, learned about the explosive and how he managed to produce it.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/new-orleans-attack-transmitter-explosive-devices-fire-airbnb-fbi-rcna186223
Didn't he take a trip to Egypt a couple of years back?
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