Prosecutors allegedly decided against charging him because they would have had to prove Gaetz knew she was underage.oh no said:IIRC, around 6 or 8 years ago, before he was married, he allegedly used an escort service for some dates. allegations came out years later- over 4 years ago- that one of his dates was under 18 at the time, which he may or may not have known. this is what they tried to bribe or blackmail him and his family about. he refused to pay the ransom, the news story "broke". libs melted down about Gaetz being a pedo because one of his dates years earlier might have been 17 at the time. it guess it's trafficking if he hired a date from an escort service in Florida and flew her to attand a gala or a dinner in DC. so he's not pure and worthy to be in government in liberal minds. it was investigated. They found nothing I guess, because it's been years since then and now he's married, been in congress for another term after that, and just reelected again.BlueSmoke said:
What's the backstory of the dims talking point about him and the underage girl and sex trafficking?
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But Democrats are all in on the pedo. So why aren't they supporting him 100%?
Getting Gaetz out of the House is a positive in my opinion. He can go on his attention seeking journey now.
Looking at the numbers though the best the Republicans are going to do is have 222 in the house. More than likely going to be 221. Zero margin for anything until special elections are held. In New York it will be about 90 days from Stefanik's resignation. Not sure about Florida.
Looking at the numbers though the best the Republicans are going to do is have 222 in the house. More than likely going to be 221. Zero margin for anything until special elections are held. In New York it will be about 90 days from Stefanik's resignation. Not sure about Florida.
If Gaetz is really a throwaway pick, I expect him to take a flamethrower to the hearings and make all the Ds ever regret challenging another nomination. He's damn good in that role at minimum.
53 seatsAggieUSMC said:
The problem is that the Republicans will only have a 52 seat majority. Assuming every Dem will vote no on Gaetz, they can only afford to lose 2 R votes.
Murkowski and Collins are almost certain no's. I'm affraid there are more "concerned moderates" in the Republican Senate caucus that will tank this nomination.
Anyone is better than Jeff Sessions or Bill Barr
Which means they only need two more. There's enough congresscritters that hate Gaetz with the fiery passion of a thousand suns that the vote could be an embarrassment for him.
Whether Johnson or the States, makes no difference...Trump is banking on at least 222 R's, but currently struggling at 217...he is shooting both feet off, 'cause he don't need them today...Bad Trump.aggiehawg said:Gaetz is a firebrand for sure but I don't think he'll have the knowledge to manuever through that snake pit, including the FBI.Logos Stick said:aggiehawg said:
Ugh!
And another one from the House. Johnson is going to have the worst job in DC.
what do mean Hawg?
And having to call for, hold and then COUNT all of these special elections to replace departing House members makes Johnson's job very difficult herding the cats awaiting those replacement members.
If Trump has to deal with Hakeem the Dream, he will lose all momentum and favorability...even if the R's revolt, it may take until Fall of 2025 to get R's back in charge.
I don't like it Sam I am, not at all.
"You are being watched..."
Pucker factor in DC right now
Throwing Hunter Biden in jail would be nice.4 said:BusterAg said:
I don't want Trump to spend his next 4 years getting revenge. I want Trump to spend the next 4 years saving America. This feels too much like the former.
I fail to see how they are different issues
Passing national voter ID and getting rid of 75% of the illegal aliens would be better.
MemphisAg1 said:53 seatsAggieUSMC said:
The problem is that the Republicans will only have a 52 seat majority. Assuming every Dem will vote no on Gaetz, they can only afford to lose 2 R votes.
Murkowski and Collins are almost certain no's. I'm affraid there are more "concerned moderates" in the Republican Senate caucus that will tank this nomination.
With Vance to break a tie
So does his seat become vacant when he is nominated? Or when he is confirmed? Same for the other nominees. If they don't vacate their seat until they are confirmed, Johnson will have no issues getting elected again. Somebody may grandstand a bit, but it won't change things in the end.SeMgCo87 said:Whether Johnson or the States, makes no difference...Trump is banking on at least 222 R's, but currently struggling at 217...he is shooting both feet off, 'cause he don't need them today...Bad Trump.aggiehawg said:Gaetz is a firebrand for sure but I don't think he'll have the knowledge to manuever through that snake pit, including the FBI.Logos Stick said:aggiehawg said:
Ugh!
And another one from the House. Johnson is going to have the worst job in DC.
what do mean Hawg?
And having to call for, hold and then COUNT all of these special elections to replace departing House members makes Johnson's job very difficult herding the cats awaiting those replacement members.
If Trump has to deal with Hakeem the Dream, he will lose all momentum and favorability...even if the R's revolt, it may take until Fall of 2025 to get R's back in charge.
I don't like it Sam I am, not at all.
Logos Stick said:
i guess Paxton rumor was a distraction
Can he look me straight on the eye and say that?
Replys now turned off. Guessing notifications too. LOL.
I seem to remember you voted for President Biden? Did you expect that clown too? Maybe your judgements concerning clowns is somewhat inadequate?GeorgiAg said:
Elect a clown, expect a circus
Among the latter, under pretence of governing they have divided their nations into two classes, wolves and sheep.”
Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Edward Carrington, January 16, 1787
Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Edward Carrington, January 16, 1787
I crapped out a turd earlier today that would be a better AG than Garland. And I have famously huge turds.akm91 said:
As bad as Gaetz may be, he's still infinitely better than the current POS AG, Garland.
Has anyone heard from Kevin McCarthy?
“Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience" - Mark Twain
I don't see Gaetz getting confirmed as even Rick Scott hates him.C@LAg said:
Got him our of the House!
Win-Win.
this is a great way to lose political capital by wasting it on bad picks like Gaetz
you can find the exact same mentality in someone who hasn't been credibly accused of paying hookers and dating coeds.
MATT WHITAKER would have been even more MAGA without the annoyances of Gaetz
Thread title incorrect-
Gaetz has been NOMINATED for AG
he is not the AG.
Gaetz has been NOMINATED for AG
he is not the AG.
When they are confirmed...but it will take 6 months to get special elections completed...and Dems can use McCarthy rule to vote Johnson out...txags92 said:So does his seat become vacant when he is nominated? Or when he is confirmed? Same for the other nominees. If they don't vacate their seat until they are confirmed, Johnson will have no issues getting elected again. Somebody may grandstand a bit, but it won't change things in the end.SeMgCo87 said:Whether Johnson or the States, makes no difference...Trump is banking on at least 222 R's, but currently struggling at 217...he is shooting both feet off, 'cause he don't need them today...Bad Trump.aggiehawg said:Gaetz is a firebrand for sure but I don't think he'll have the knowledge to manuever through that snake pit, including the FBI.Logos Stick said:aggiehawg said:
Ugh!
And another one from the House. Johnson is going to have the worst job in DC.
what do mean Hawg?
And having to call for, hold and then COUNT all of these special elections to replace departing House members makes Johnson's job very difficult herding the cats awaiting those replacement members.
If Trump has to deal with Hakeem the Dream, he will lose all momentum and favorability...even if the R's revolt, it may take until Fall of 2025 to get R's back in charge.
I don't like it Sam I am, not at all.
May be a recycle, yes, but just takes away from Trumps first 100 days, just more "interim" funding...not to mention the Musk/Ramaswamy confusion on the side...
As Shortround said, "Hang on, lady, we goin' for a ride."
"You are being watched..."
MarkTwain said:
Has anyone heard from Kevin McCarthy?
He's making calls behind the scenes to get this axed. Also he's secretly hoping he resigns from Congress before confirmation.
FYI Linda McMahon, Vince's wife, is likely going to be Secretary of Commerce. Per Spicer everyone is already talking about it behind the scenes.
Prosperdick said:Biden was an adult!!! Just look at this non-circus:Larry Hagman said:GeorgiAg said:
Elect a clown, expect a circus
You talking about biden here ?"Trump's nominees are unqualified." pic.twitter.com/NqKQ9lWkQG
— Kyle Mann (@The_Kyle_Mann) November 13, 2024
Jesus.. what an embarrassment to the American Pulic.. Obama (Bidens boss) did this to poke a finger in the American public's eye.. talk about clown appointmentees , whose the idiotic democrats that think these morons would help our government in any way.. bunch of Low IQ idiots is who they are
Susie WIles is behind this. Somehow it will work out politically to Trump's benefit
Seat has to vacant before a special election is called. That means (in these cases) resignations must be submitted, irrespective if before confirmation or not.Quote:
So does his seat become vacant when he is nominated? Or when he is confirmed? Same for the other nominees. If they don't vacate their seat until they are confirmed, Johnson will have no issues getting elected again. Somebody may grandstand a bit, but it won't change things in the end.
A late resignation, say in December, can trigger an immediate call for a special election but that affects the majority in the House going into January, so a one trick pony that needs to be coordinated, very very closely.
That's the basis of my fear that this goes sideways fast if not handled appropriately with everyone and I mean everyone on the exact same page. Playing with fire, here.
It really do be like this... pic.twitter.com/G2LEL4bdor
— Brick Suit (@Brick_Suit) November 13, 2024
but I don't think 75 million people elected the disrupter again because they want to force him to be play politics/ make compromises /not ruffle feathers /be all bipartisan and friendly so he can try not to lose political capital.LMCane said:
this is a great way to lose political capital by wasting it on bad picks like Gaetz
he has all the political capital he'll ever have right now, and he should be nominating people he thinks will help him achieve the things he said he was going to do.
for the positions that require senate confirmation, he's going to have to sell it to the 54 R senators to get at least 50 of them on board. if he can't do it, he'll move onto someone else.
So there is no credibility to the accusations of him with a minor? Or is there?
Why would they resign in December when they can't even begin to start confirmation proceedings until at least mid-January? I would think a resignation from their seat in February would be more likely. And I would expect Desantis to call special elections pretty quickly. 3-4 months is probably the most I would expect it to take.aggiehawg said:Seat has to vacant before a special election is called. That means (in these cases) resignations must be submitted, irrespective if before confirmation or not.Quote:
So does his seat become vacant when he is nominated? Or when he is confirmed? Same for the other nominees. If they don't vacate their seat until they are confirmed, Johnson will have no issues getting elected again. Somebody may grandstand a bit, but it won't change things in the end.
A late resignation, say in December, can trigger an immediate call for a special election but that affects the majority in the House going into January, so a one trick pony that needs to be coordinated, very very closely.
That's the basis of my fear that this goes sideways fast if not handled appropriately with everyone and I mean everyone on the exact same page. Playing with fire, here.
The panic on display on CNN and MSNBC is great entertainment for me right now. I just got home from my out patient hip surgery and am still higher than an a SpaceX rocket launch from the pain killers, but this is giving me the jollies.
Two words
Recess Appointment
Recess Appointment
“Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience" - Mark Twain
“Everything is broken and I want things to change. Also, can we just keep doing the things the same way we always have?” -most people
— Jesse Kelly (@JesseKellyDC) November 13, 2024
score4OU said:
The panic on display on CNN and MSNBC is great entertainment for me right now. I just got home from my out patient hip surgery and am still higher than an a SpaceX rocket launch from the pain killers, but this is giving me the jollies.
Feel better!
At this point, it seems there's as much credibility as Trump is a Russian asset. ...or Hunter's laptop is Russian disinformation.zag213004 said:
So there is no credibility to the accusations of him with a minor? Or is there?
BusterAg said:
I don't want Trump to spend his next 4 years getting revenge. I want Trump to spend the next 4 years saving America. This feels too much like the former.
He is a surprising pick in some ways, but I'm okay with it. Trump had to spend so much of his time dealing with back stabbers during his first term and beyond. I feel like this pick is more about loyalty, and Gaetz has shown that towards Trump even when it put a huge target on his back.
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