Gaetz nominated for AG

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Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

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Both are meh.

Prostitution has always been around and should be legal. And we are stupid for infantilizing 17, 18, and 19 year olds. They are the backbone of our fighting forces and all throughout history have been married and bearing children.
There's a difference between a 21 year old interacting with a 17 year old, and a 30+ year old doing it.

Something about young love hooking up is understandable, whereas an older guy preying on an underage female is creepy and downright wrong.
Maybe but there has to a line drawn in the sand legally. I am perfectly fine with that being 17.

Edit: Just curious what age gap do you think is appropriate for a 17, 19, 21, or 25 year old?


17 year olds are children. Not legally but they're still children. It's gross and their are character issues for a man over the age of thirty being with one.
Damn it, I have sent a crap ton of "children" to prison. I had no idea. Maybe we should call our legislators.

Edit: Just for funsies, at what age are they not children?
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rathAG05 said:

He ain't getting 50.


A republican senate isn't denying a trump appointment
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Watch. He's that unpopular. Trump has a ton of rope, but Gaetz will be a bridge too far.
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Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

Tom Fox said:

MemphisAg1 said:

Tom Fox said:



Both are meh.

Prostitution has always been around and should be legal. And we are stupid for infantilizing 17, 18, and 19 year olds. They are the backbone of our fighting forces and all throughout history have been married and bearing children.
There's a difference between a 21 year old interacting with a 17 year old, and a 30+ year old doing it.

Something about young love hooking up is understandable, whereas an older guy preying on an underage female is creepy and downright wrong.
Maybe but there has to a line drawn in the sand legally. I am perfectly fine with that being 17.

Edit: Just curious what age gap do you think is appropriate for a 17, 19, 21, or 25 year old?


17 year olds are children. Not legally but they're still children. It's gross and there are character issues for a man over the age of thirty being with one.

They are literally not children
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Don't need 50
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He's so unpopular that people will make up **** about him that isn't true while other idiots buy it

Ask yourself why none of this has ever been used before. He's been pissing in cheerios a long time. Yall are buying BS
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rathAG05 said:

Watch. He's that unpopular. Trump has a ton of rope, but Gaetz will be a bridge too far.


Nope. Trump has an overwhelming mandate. This pick is also a way to show them that.
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Teslag said:

Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

Tom Fox said:

MemphisAg1 said:

Tom Fox said:



Both are meh.

Prostitution has always been around and should be legal. And we are stupid for infantilizing 17, 18, and 19 year olds. They are the backbone of our fighting forces and all throughout history have been married and bearing children.
There's a difference between a 21 year old interacting with a 17 year old, and a 30+ year old doing it.

Something about young love hooking up is understandable, whereas an older guy preying on an underage female is creepy and downright wrong.
Maybe but there has to a line drawn in the sand legally. I am perfectly fine with that being 17.

Edit: Just curious what age gap do you think is appropriate for a 17, 19, 21, or 25 year old?


17 year olds are children. Not legally but they're still children. It's gross and there are character issues for a man over the age of thirty being with one.

They are literally not children
Not so fast. I joined the service at 17 and needed my dad's approval for enlistment. I was not considered an independent adult.
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You should have stayed home and had the neighbor's wife legally grease your pole. You were adult enough for that
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DannyDuberstein said:

You should have stayed home and had the neighbor's wife legally grease your pole. You were adult enough for that
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Lot of posters here assuming the rumors about Gaetz are true. Spinning rumors into facts. Guilty until proven innocent I guess.

After all the lies and gaslighting that has happened with the media and Washington officials, especially over the past 5-6 years, it's naive at best, complicit at worst.

Seems more like a lot of angry Democrats and Trump haters bitterly hanging on to anything that might ease their pain and frustration.
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Ag with kids
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K2-HMFIC said:



I'm here for the memes.
Considering what it wants people to look up, it's more like...

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https://thefederalist.com/2022/09/26/the-fbis-matt-gaetz-operation-sidelined-an-effective-republican-voice-at-a-crucial-time-that-was-the-point/

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Then on March 30, 2021, all that changed with the publication of an anonymously sourced report accusing him of possibly being a child sex trafficker.

A group of New York Times reporters who won awards for their roles pushing the Russia collusion lie penned an anonymously sourced article with a devastating headline: "Matt Gaetz Is Said to Face Justice Dept. Inquiry Over Sex With an Underage Girl." The story was sourced to "three people briefed on the matter," none of them identified in any way. The story contained no evidence against Gaetz of sex crimes, but much guilt-by-association. Late in the story, the pack of reporters admitted that no charges had been filed and that the "extent of his criminal exposure is unclear."

Gaetz strenuously and immediately asserted his innocence and denied the accusations.

On Friday, 18 months after he was accused of being a pedophile and child sex trafficker, the Washington Post published another anonymously sourced report. "Career prosecutors recommend no charges for Matt Gaetz," said the article, published quietly on a Friday. Not only was he never convicted of any of the crimes he was alleged to have committed, he wasn't even charged. And, if you believe the anonymously sourced claims, he isn't going to be.

The damage was already done by the initial report, written by reporters who regularly regurgitate political leaks from Department of Justice and FBI sources.

"Matt Gaetz's days in politics are likely numbered," one CNN reporter claimed days after the initial report, noting how few people had come to his defense.

Of course, as even The Washington Post admitted, "Gaetz's position is shaky. The allegations are of a sort that makes it very difficult for his colleagues to come to his defense. … [T]here's an obvious political risk to vocally defending someone who might face sex-trafficking charges, so expect his political allies (including the former president) to remain fairly muted."

That was the goal of the politicized leaks. Gaetz couldn't very well critique the Department of Justice for their political prosecutions if he was a pariah who everyone thought was a pedophile.

On the year anniversary of the original Gaetz story, journalist Glenn Greenwald wrote that leaks "have the effect, and often the intent, of destroying someone's reputation, convicting them of repellent crimes in the court of public opinion that will never be brought in a court of law, thus relieving the state of the requirement to prove the crime and depriving the accused the opportunity to exonerate themselves."

That's precisely what happened.

He was the target of multiple "Saturday Night Live" skits. "Gaetz is under investigation by the Justice Department for a number of crimes, including child sex trafficking and allegedly paying for sex," The Washington Post said in a video report about the skits.

Politico reporters suggested the walls were closing in, writing, "Gaetz's allies now fear that Greenberg is preparing to strike a deal with prosecutors to deliver Gaetz." That was the tenor of coverage for months, even as Gaetz's claims regarding being the target of criminal extortion were validated.

The Associated Press tried to tie Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis to the scandal.

"If Matt Gaetz is innocent of sex trafficking, why does he need an expensive criminal defense attorney from New York?" said one left-wing attorney who is popular with corporate media.

The Democrat-run Ethics Committee in the House typically waits to run investigations of members until after the Department of Justice finishes an investigation. In Gaetz's case, the committee went out of its way to begin and announce an investigation into the embattled Florida member.

Cheney and other obsessed Never Trump activists (see here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, and here) delighted in the anonymously sourced allegations against Gaetz. They haven't yet apologized or publicly commented on Friday's also anonymously sourced news.

Former Vice President Mike Pence's Chief of Staff Marc Short even accused Gaetz of being a child trafficker just this past July after the congressman said Pence was a "nice guy" but that he would never be president.

"I don't know if Mike Pence will run for president in 2024, but I don't think Matt Gaetz will have an impact on that," Short said. "In fact, I'd be surprised if he's still voting. It's more likely he'll be in prison for child trafficking by 2024."
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MemphisAg1 said:

K2-HMFIC said:

C@LAg said:

i hope that works.

otherwise, trump is going to waste a LOT of political capital on this one pick.,


If you guys haven't learned in 8 years, there isn't a strategy, it's purely vibes.
It's fine. I'll take the occasional bad with the much more abundant good.
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To do otherwise would be to ignore the facts of life.

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dmart90
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This may be one of the dumbest nominations of all time. Actually, I can't think of one that was worse.
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dmart90 said:

This may be one of the dumbest nominations of all time. Actually, I can't think of one that was worse.



Lol i can the last 4 years any appointment

But we hear you cm!
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Awesome selection!!
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OK, the girl was 17. If you're old enough to go to the store, you're old enough to get bread.
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dmart90 said:

This may be one of the dumbest nominations of all time. Actually, I can't think of one that was worse.


Counterpoint - it's not like he's tasked with actually practicing law and it's pretty hilarious. From a patriot's point of view they're not being asked to trust Sessions and it's a poke in the eye at the opposition and ostensibly qualified establishment Rs.

Given the wayward tendencies of his last two AGs I imagine Trump was looking for someone a little more beholden to stick in the office with whom he didn't have to worry about being two minds with.

I've missed the chaos.
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NM.
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Larry Hagman said:

dmart90 said:

This may be one of the dumbest nominations of all time. Actually, I can't think of one that was worse.



Lol i can the last 4 years any appointment

But we hear you cm!

Life long Republican. Gaetz is a trainwreck and unqualified. Pete is just unqualified, for example.
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All are squealing. That's how you know this is a great pick
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dmart90 said:


. Pete is just unqualified, for example.
ridiculous
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C@LAg said:

dmart90 said:


. Pete is just unqualified, for example.
ridiculous

You think he's qualified???
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I'm willing to give him a chance.

Initially, Vance seemed like a questionable pick, but he turned out to be a home run.

Remember, the media tried to frame Vance as weird and even stoked ridiculous rumors about him.

Perhaps that's a tell, no? The Democrats seem to like quisling, pastel Republicans like Romney and McCain.

Do you really trust the Democrats and media to tell you who's qualified?
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Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

Tom Fox said:

MemphisAg1 said:

Tom Fox said:



Both are meh.

Prostitution has always been around and should be legal. And we are stupid for infantilizing 17, 18, and 19 year olds. They are the backbone of our fighting forces and all throughout history have been married and bearing children.
There's a difference between a 21 year old interacting with a 17 year old, and a 30+ year old doing it.

Something about young love hooking up is understandable, whereas an older guy preying on an underage female is creepy and downright wrong.
Maybe but there has to a line drawn in the sand legally. I am perfectly fine with that being 17.

Edit: Just curious what age gap do you think is appropriate for a 17, 19, 21, or 25 year old?


17 year olds are children. Not legally but they're still children. It's gross and their are character issues for a man over the age of thirty being with one.

Well, unless she's smoking hot
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jagvocate said:

If Gaetz isn't appointed AG, he will be nominated by Desantis as FL Senator.
That would be even more amusing...

And a bigger FU to the deep state.

AND the left as a bonus
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dmart90 said:

This may be one of the dumbest nominations of all time. Actually, I can't think of one that was worse.
You're not thinking very hard.
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olarmy96 said:

I'm willing to give him a chance.

Initially, Vance seemed like a questionable pick, but he turned out to be a home run.

Remember, the media tried to frame Vance as weird and even stoked ridiculous rumors about him.

Perhaps that's a tell, no? The Democrats seem to like quisling, pastel Republicans like Romney and McCain.

Do you really trust the Democrats and media to tell you who's qualified?
Well said.

You know you're over the target when the flak starts flying.
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dmart90 said:

This may be one of the dumbest nominations of all time. Actually, I can't think of one that was worse.


God ya'll are obnoxious.
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dmart90 said:

C@LAg said:

dmart90 said:


. Pete is just unqualified, for example.
ridiculous

You think he's qualified???


Instead of your histeronics please lay out your fact based reason why Geatz is an unqualified train wreck.

I'm willing to hear you out if you properly elucidate your point.

ETA: Same goes for 94chem. I'm sick and tired of your "just so" arguments.
 
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