The main issue with Matt Gaetz is that he used his office to prosecute his political opponents and authorized federal agents to harass parents who were peacefully protesting at school board meetings.
— JD Vance (@JDVance) November 14, 2024
Oh wait, that's actually Merrick Garland, the current attorney general.
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In brief: The Supreme Court might well rule that the president's power to make recess appointments is limited to intersession recessesthe recesses between two Senate sessionsand, further, that it applies only to offices that become vacant during that recess.
Those are the positions that Justice Scalia, joined by Chief Justice Roberts, Justice Thomas, and Justice Alito, embraced in his powerful concurrence in the judgment ten years ago in NLRB v. Canning (2014). Scalia condemns the "tragedy" of the "majority's deference to the unconstitutional recess-appointment practices of the Executive Branch" and the "damage done to our separation-of-powers jurisprudence more generally."
It's a very safe bet that Justice Gorsuch, Justice Kavanaugh, and Justice Barrett would agree with Scalia if they were looking at the issues afresh. So that would make a six-justice majority among the current members of the Court.
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It's not about losing the house, it's about the margin of error.
Republicans can't vote together on anything. The one thing I can say for Democrats is that they move in lockstep.
If we hold the majority with, say, 221 seats and three are not there to vote, we have literally zero room for error.
And you can bet that the Democrats will get to at least one rino Republican with all kinds of incentives to oppose Trump's agenda.
rathAG05 said:
I'm sure it's already been said on this thread somewhere, but this is never going to happen. Ever. He will not get 51 votes. And I for one am thankful.
McInnis 03 said:4 said:
Seeing where multiple Republican Senators speaking on condition of anonymity are saying he will never be approved, full stop.
I wonder if Trump knows this and will come in behind him with someone like Paxton who will then look like a solid compromise after the fact, though may have received a little resistance had he been the first nominee?
Ann Coulter thinks its 4D chess....Trump is surely floating Gaetz, so that when he names his real AG, Dems (and Rs) will be so relieved, they'll support a ferocious right-winger they otherwise would have opposed merely for being qualified.
— Ann Coulter (@AnnCoulter) November 13, 2024
RIGHT? pic.twitter.com/Pr0fsbfzRk
rathAG05 said:
I'm sure it's already been said on this thread somewhere, but this is never going to happen. Ever. He will not get 51 votes. And I for one am thankful.
Responding to you and the other poster in one reply. I understand the legal distinction and I'm not arguing on those lines. Just speaking to it from my ethical perspective. Doesn't mean others see it the same way, I understand that. No issue with a consenting 80 year old and 25 year old. But when you start approaching the cradle, there's some diligence and judgment required to ensure you're not taking advantage of a youngster who might be all the willing in the moment to engage. I can't define it precisely in words, but I know it when I see it. And a 30+ year old with a 17 year old doesn't smell right. Take it fwiw, thanks.Tom Fox said:Maybe but there has to a line drawn in the sand legally. I am perfectly fine with that being 17.MemphisAg1 said:There's a difference between a 21 year old interacting with a 17 year old, and a 30+ year old doing it.Tom Fox said:
Both are meh.
Prostitution has always been around and should be legal. And we are stupid for infantilizing 17, 18, and 19 year olds. They are the backbone of our fighting forces and all throughout history have been married and bearing children.
Something about young love hooking up is understandable, whereas an older guy preying on an underage female is creepy and downright wrong.
Edit: Just curious what age gap do you think is appropriate for a 17, 19, 21, or 25 year old?
Tom Fox said:That is your opinion. I was a LEO for over a decade including a fed that worked international alien smuggling for prostitution and then later after attending law school, a felony prosecutor. We have bigger fish to fry than two consenting adults engaged in a voluntary transaction.The Banned said:
Studies in Europe have compare legal zones to illegal zones and have shown legal prostitution actually increases sex trafficking. Cheap labor in a place where you can get away with it. Prostitution should not be legal.
I have my own opinion based on experience.
MemphisAg1 said:Responding to you and the other poster in one reply. I understand the legal distinction and I'm not arguing on those lines. Just speaking to it from my ethical perspective. Doesn't mean others see it the same way, I understand that. No issue with a consenting 80 year old and 25 year old. But when you start approaching the cradle, there's some diligence and judgment required to ensure you're not taking advantage of a youngster who might be all the willing in the moment to engage. I can't define it precisely in words, but I know it when I see it. And a 30+ year old with a 17 year old doesn't smell right. Take it fwiw, thanks.Tom Fox said:Maybe but there has to a line drawn in the sand legally. I am perfectly fine with that being 17.MemphisAg1 said:There's a difference between a 21 year old interacting with a 17 year old, and a 30+ year old doing it.Tom Fox said:
Both are meh.
Prostitution has always been around and should be legal. And we are stupid for infantilizing 17, 18, and 19 year olds. They are the backbone of our fighting forces and all throughout history have been married and bearing children.
Something about young love hooking up is understandable, whereas an older guy preying on an underage female is creepy and downright wrong.
Edit: Just curious what age gap do you think is appropriate for a 17, 19, 21, or 25 year old?
No. That's just a bonus feature.BallerStaf2003 said:Blackhorse83 said:
The rolling barrage of announcements will have them crying in the corner.
Just out of curiousity. Didn't Trump win? Is the goal still owning the libs or to have a well run country?
Seems 95% of the comments are centered around democrats being triggered, is that all the goal is?
I don't consider sleeping with a 17 year old to be a pedo.94chem said:Tom Fox said:That is your opinion. I was a LEO for over a decade including a fed that worked international alien smuggling for prostitution and then later after attending law school, a felony prosecutor. We have bigger fish to fry than two consenting adults engaged in a voluntary transaction.The Banned said:
Studies in Europe have compare legal zones to illegal zones and have shown legal prostitution actually increases sex trafficking. Cheap labor in a place where you can get away with it. Prostitution should not be legal.
I have my own opinion based on experience.
And you also know as an LEO that this is what he actually got CAUGHT for. Cause you were a pretty sorry LEO if you don't know that.
Ever seen a pedo reformed? That's a rhetorical question, in case you actually didn't know. Wanna run the risk that the chief prosecutor might be one? Also rhetorical.
Yeah, and you'd think the left would have learned that by now.Fitch said:
With Gaetz having resigned from congress today there's no backsies, so who knows. Pride cometh before the fall.
rathAG05 said:
I'm sure it's already been said on this thread somewhere, but this is never going to happen. Ever. He will not get 51 votes. And I for one am thankful.
Exactly. This is the same thing the phony republicans did to Paxton.DannyDuberstein said:
They don't have **** on Gaetz. If they did, it would have been used long ago.
This seems plausible. Interesting idea.FireAg said:AtticusMatlock said:
Except there's typically not a scheduled recess until late March. Is Thune just going to call a recess on January 21?
We shall see, but I have to believe there was a plan already in place…deals were already cut…
Maybe it was a "we will compromise on Thune, but he needs to call a recess for Gaetz to assume his role as AG without confirmation, and to make House members happy, we will back Johnson without a fight, and we will make it harder to remove speakers moving forward…"
Lol, IF, and it's still an if, Gaetz isn't confirmed as AG, there's no way DeSantis appoints him as a US Senator.jagvocate said:
If Gaetz isn't appointed AG, he will be nominated by Desantis as FL Senator.
Ellis Wyatt said:Exactly. This is the same thing the phony republicans did to Paxton.DannyDuberstein said:
They don't have **** on Gaetz. If they did, it would have been used long ago.
rathAG05 said:
He ain't getting 50.
Tom Fox said:I don't consider sleeping with a 17 year old to be a pedo.94chem said:Tom Fox said:That is your opinion. I was a LEO for over a decade including a fed that worked international alien smuggling for prostitution and then later after attending law school, a felony prosecutor. We have bigger fish to fry than two consenting adults engaged in a voluntary transaction.The Banned said:
Studies in Europe have compare legal zones to illegal zones and have shown legal prostitution actually increases sex trafficking. Cheap labor in a place where you can get away with it. Prostitution should not be legal.
I have my own opinion based on experience.
And you also know as an LEO that this is what he actually got CAUGHT for. Cause you were a pretty sorry LEO if you don't know that.
Ever seen a pedo reformed? That's a rhetorical question, in case you actually didn't know. Wanna run the risk that the chief prosecutor might be one? Also rhetorical.
I had to deal with these types of cases all the time. 16 and 20 year olds ... poured out at the grand jury. 35 and 17 year old ... legal. 35 and 15 year olds ... straight to prison.
Any person looking at prepubescent kids should get shot in the back of the head on a dank warehouse floor.
Tom Fox said:Maybe but there has to a line drawn in the sand legally. I am perfectly fine with that being 17.MemphisAg1 said:There's a difference between a 21 year old interacting with a 17 year old, and a 30+ year old doing it.Tom Fox said:
Both are meh.
Prostitution has always been around and should be legal. And we are stupid for infantilizing 17, 18, and 19 year olds. They are the backbone of our fighting forces and all throughout history have been married and bearing children.
Something about young love hooking up is understandable, whereas an older guy preying on an underage female is creepy and downright wrong.
Edit: Just curious what age gap do you think is appropriate for a 17, 19, 21, or 25 year old?
