Trump names Pete hegseth as defense secretary

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Fdsa
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JB99 said:

K2-HMFIC said:

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murphyag said:

chickenfingers said:

Does no one see that hiring a Fox News anchor as sec of defense is insane


I see it. Most on here tonight seem more concerned with exploding brains on msm and libs than what is best for our country. This guy isn't it.


If his only qualifications was fox news host then I would be concerned. Thankfully he's a 20 year vet retired major with combat experience. Far better than the litany of beaucrats that served in this post over the years


So the current SecDef (Lloyd Austin, 4* GO who led in Iraq) must be great by your standards, right?


If Lloyd Austin was aligned with Trump on his beliefs on the military and foreign policy, but he's not. Alot has to do with the fact that the president dictates the policy.



Do you know how many flag officers and those with other executive experience endorse Trump? Many…here is a list of just a few. All guys that hate DEI. https://flagofficers4america.com/

There is more to be done than get rid of woke in the DoD.

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Trump has a mandate right now and Republican controlled congress and MAGA is how things are going to roll for the time being.

If it goes really well, great. If it is chaotic and things don't go well, then the incumbent administration and party (now Trump and the Republicans) takes the blame and the blue team will take back part of Congress as well as eventually POTUS and things flip flop back in the other direction.

This is how the U.S.'s two-party political system rolls; the country flips back and forth between the red and blue team control as the card deck is reshuffled every 2 and 4 years.

It's the red team's turn in the batter box now.
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K2-HMFIC said:

suburban cowboy said:

Logos Stick said:

Context and info on this guy?


Handsome and a ladies man but….

He actually loves America



I mean that's great and all, but can we have some more qualifications for a guy that controls the military 24/7.
His qualifications are GOOGLE.

He's not a lib, so there's half his qualifications.
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oldag941 said:

Maybe. I don't know, nor care honestly. I'm more speaking to the character traits and track record of judgement he's laid out in his recent past. What his forgiveness level is with all 3 wives, all 7 kids and God is not my business.

It just makes for a very curious appointment. Heck, Trump considered appointing him head of the VA in the first term, twice. Didn't make the cut but 4 more years hosting on Fox and perhaps an additional book changed that.



Plus you seem biased and judgy about his past mistakes. Let it go, God has.
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It's more his judgements. Without a resume of any organizational leadership or management (other than a platoon leader), you are left with looking at ancillary items like his personal life. Like books he's written and the words within. Like things he's said as a host on a morning show. That's all you have.

I love his passion and support of the military and vets. I have a whole facebook feed of friends that match or exceed his qualifications.

That's all. Not my decision, nor trying to convince you. Just explaining my personal thoughts and opinion.
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bowhuntr said:

JB99 said:

K2-HMFIC said:

JB99 said:

murphyag said:

chickenfingers said:

Does no one see that hiring a Fox News anchor as sec of defense is insane


I see it. Most on here tonight seem more concerned with exploding brains on msm and libs than what is best for our country. This guy isn't it.


If his only qualifications was fox news host then I would be concerned. Thankfully he's a 20 year vet retired major with combat experience. Far better than the litany of beaucrats that served in this post over the years


So the current SecDef (Lloyd Austin, 4* GO who led in Iraq) must be great by your standards, right?


If Lloyd Austin was aligned with Trump on his beliefs on the military and foreign policy, but he's not. Alot has to do with the fact that the president dictates the policy.




There is more to be done than get rid of woke in the DoD.



True, but it is the most pressing.
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Teslag said:

bowhuntr said:

JB99 said:

K2-HMFIC said:

JB99 said:

murphyag said:

chickenfingers said:

Does no one see that hiring a Fox News anchor as sec of defense is insane


I see it. Most on here tonight seem more concerned with exploding brains on msm and libs than what is best for our country. This guy isn't it.


If his only qualifications was fox news host then I would be concerned. Thankfully he's a 20 year vet retired major with combat experience. Far better than the litany of beaucrats that served in this post over the years


So the current SecDef (Lloyd Austin, 4* GO who led in Iraq) must be great by your standards, right?


If Lloyd Austin was aligned with Trump on his beliefs on the military and foreign policy, but he's not. Alot has to do with the fact that the president dictates the policy.




There is more to be done than get rid of woke in the DoD.



True, but it is the most pressing.
and that's the easiest thing ever. What happens on day 2?
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A confidant of mine who spent his whole career in the military has told me that everybody above Colonel is worthless. That they all have to be yes-men politicians to rise to that level.

That makes me like this pick more.
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bowhuntr said:

Teslag said:

bowhuntr said:

JB99 said:

K2-HMFIC said:

JB99 said:

murphyag said:

chickenfingers said:

Does no one see that hiring a Fox News anchor as sec of defense is insane


I see it. Most on here tonight seem more concerned with exploding brains on msm and libs than what is best for our country. This guy isn't it.


If his only qualifications was fox news host then I would be concerned. Thankfully he's a 20 year vet retired major with combat experience. Far better than the litany of beaucrats that served in this post over the years


So the current SecDef (Lloyd Austin, 4* GO who led in Iraq) must be great by your standards, right?


If Lloyd Austin was aligned with Trump on his beliefs on the military and foreign policy, but he's not. Alot has to do with the fact that the president dictates the policy.




There is more to be done than get rid of woke in the DoD.



True, but it is the most pressing.
and that's the easiest thing ever. What happens on day 2?

You start gutting personnel that supported. You begin rebuilding the culture to get past it. You begin enshrining a culture that doesn't need it. It's bigger than a one day job. The military needs to be gutted and rebuilt. That will take a vision and someone willing to change.

Like your girl said, "unburdened by what has been"
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I don't have a confidant, but have served with some of these men. And they are continuing to serve. I can say your confidant is painting with too broad a brush. So much of that is tied to personality. There is a whole group of retired generals and admirals that signed up to support Trump. To some extent, the senior leaders actions are a product of their CEO (the President). Just like in any other business. But I would be careful to paint with such a broad brush. There are some badass war fighters leading today. Lopping them off would be like "cutting off your nose to spite your face".
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K2-HMFIC said:

Logos Stick said:

K2-HMFIC said:

Teslag said:

K2-HMFIC said:

suburban cowboy said:

Logos Stick said:

Context and info on this guy?


Handsome and a ladies man but….

He actually loves America



I mean that's great and all, but can we have some more qualifications for a guy that controls the military 24/7.


21 year military officer, served in combat, infantry, double bronze star



Cool…he survived.

Chris Miller, Wilkie, Bridge Colby…all VASTLY more qualified…AND confirmable.


There's a real chance Hegseth bows out before the process even starts.


Hegseth it is then!!!

If K2 is opposed, then he is absolutely the right pick!



I literally gave you three other people who Trump was considering who are VASTLY more qualified than Major Pete.




But they are not VASTLY more qualified.
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Teslag said:

bowhuntr said:

Teslag said:

bowhuntr said:

JB99 said:

K2-HMFIC said:

JB99 said:

murphyag said:

chickenfingers said:

Does no one see that hiring a Fox News anchor as sec of defense is insane


I see it. Most on here tonight seem more concerned with exploding brains on msm and libs than what is best for our country. This guy isn't it.


If his only qualifications was fox news host then I would be concerned. Thankfully he's a 20 year vet retired major with combat experience. Far better than the litany of beaucrats that served in this post over the years


So the current SecDef (Lloyd Austin, 4* GO who led in Iraq) must be great by your standards, right?


If Lloyd Austin was aligned with Trump on his beliefs on the military and foreign policy, but he's not. Alot has to do with the fact that the president dictates the policy.




There is more to be done than get rid of woke in the DoD.



True, but it is the most pressing.
and that's the easiest thing ever. What happens on day 2?

You start gutting personnel that supported. You begin rebuilding the culture to get past it. You begin enshrining a culture that doesn't need it. It's bigger than a one day job. The military needs to be gutted and rebuilt. That will take a vision and someone willing to change.

Like your girl said, "unburdened by what has been"


If I voted for Trump (I did) am I allowed to question this nomination?
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Yeah, Pete's a scholar, patriot, business man, author...he has more qualifications than George Washington did when he created the DoD (Dept of War). But, yeah, let's worry about what the powder puff class says about him.

I mean, it could be a disaster...we could end up with spy balloons flying over the country, disastrous pull-outs from warzones, Russia invading Europe, Iran expanding, Pentagon leadership that lied for 20 years about what was happening in Afghanistan and Iraq, a recruitment crisis, a defense secretary that went AWOL for 2 weeks and no one noticed....and of course, we all remember this dynamo of a dream team don't we?

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https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/shawn-ryan-show/id1492492083?i=1000676048381

This was posted 5 days ago. Anyone crapping on this pick should at least listen/watch.
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Sean Davis' takedown was better

"And liberals, being liberals, will double down on failure." - dedgod
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He has one qualification for this position, he says yes to anything Trump says.

This guy is second in command of the entire US military and his highest rank is a captain in the national guard.


Only the best people right.
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knoxtom said:

He has one qualification for this position, he says yes to anything Trump says.

This guy is second in command of the entire US military and his highest rank is a captain in the national guard.


Only the best people right.


Seethe harder.
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Logos Stick said:

K2-HMFIC said:

Logos Stick said:

K2-HMFIC said:

Teslag said:

K2-HMFIC said:

suburban cowboy said:

Logos Stick said:

Context and info on this guy?


Handsome and a ladies man but….

He actually loves America



I mean that's great and all, but can we have some more qualifications for a guy that controls the military 24/7.


21 year military officer, served in combat, infantry, double bronze star



Cool…he survived.

Chris Miller, Wilkie, Bridge Colby…all VASTLY more qualified…AND confirmable.


There's a real chance Hegseth bows out before the process even starts.


Hegseth it is then!!!

If K2 is opposed, then he is absolutely the right pick!



I literally gave you three other people who Trump was considering who are VASTLY more qualified than Major Pete.




But they are not VASTLY more qualified.



What are his qualifications?

He's a weekend news anchor and was a weekend warrior …

Chris Miller WAS SecDef, former CAG.

Bridge Colby is an extremely smart foreign policy guy who knows the building and WROTE the 2018 NDS.

Explain to me why these qualifications are somehow less than weekend news anchor.
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chickenfingers said:

Does no one see that hiring a Fox News anchor as sec of defense is insane
it is insane, and that's the point. maga has a bad case of oppositional defiant disorder, so anything the adults in the room would consider bad is actually good precisely because the adults think it's bad.
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We can't find someone who is against DEI BS and also has experience managing large organizations? Many of you are setting the bar too low.
If you say you hate the state of politics in this nation and you don't get involved in it, you obviously don't hate the state of politics in this nation.
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knoxtom said:

He has one qualification for this position, he says yes to anything Trump says.

This guy is second in command of the entire US military and his highest rank is a captain in the national guard.


Only the best people right.
knoxtom! How was your election night?? Didn't see you on here!
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Old McDonald said:

chickenfingers said:

Does no one see that hiring a Fox News anchor as sec of defense is insane
it is insane, and that's the point. maga has a bad case of oppositional defiant disorder, so anything the adults in the room would consider bad is actually good precisely because the adults think it's bad.
The adults....

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Old McDonald said:

chickenfingers said:

Does no one see that hiring a Fox News anchor as sec of defense is insane
it is insane, and that's the point. maga has a bad case of oppositional defiant disorder, so anything the adults in the room would consider bad is actually good precisely because the adults think it's bad.


Huh. I thought you lefties liked progress.
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bowhuntr said:

JB99 said:

K2-HMFIC said:

JB99 said:

murphyag said:

chickenfingers said:

Does no one see that hiring a Fox News anchor as sec of defense is insane




I see it. Most on here tonight seem more concerned with exploding brains on msm and libs than what is best for our country. This guy isn't it.


If his only qualifications was fox news host then I would be concerned. Thankfully he's a 20 year vet retired major with combat experience. Far better than the litany of beaucrats that served in this post over the years


So the current SecDef (Lloyd Austin, 4* GO who led in Iraq) must be great by your standards, right?


If Lloyd Austin was aligned with Trump on his beliefs on the military and foreign policy, but he's not. Alot has to do with the fact that the president dictates the policy.



Do you know how many flag officers and those with other executive experience endorse Trump? Many…here is a list of just a few. All guys that hate DEI. https://flagofficers4america.com/

There is more to be done than get rid of woke in the DoD.




Good to know. Hespeth will need some allies in the org
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Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

We can't find someone who is against DEI BS and also has experience managing large organizations? Many of you are setting the bar too low.


Government "experience " is the problem.
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It's clear Trump trusts Pete and knows him well. Hiring someone who is loyal and is not going to leak **** constantly and try and sabotage his agenda is probably high on his list.
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tsuag10 said:



https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/shawn-ryan-show/id1492492083?i=1000676048381

This was posted 5 days ago. Anyone crapping on this pick should at least listen/watch.
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oldag941 said:

I don't have a confidant, but have served with some of these men. And they are continuing to serve. I can say your confidant is painting with too broad a brush. So much of that is tied to personality. There is a whole group of retired generals and admirals that signed up to support Trump. To some extent, the senior leaders actions are a product of their CEO (the President). Just like in any other business. But I would be careful to paint with such a broad brush. There are some badass war fighters leading today. Lopping them off would be like "cutting off your nose to spite your face".


And how did that work out last time? He hired super qualified guys he didn't know very well and they sabotaged him
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Funky Winkerbean said:

Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

We can't find someone who is against DEI BS and also has experience managing large organizations? Many of you are setting the bar too low.


Government "experience " is the problem.
Who said government experience?
If you say you hate the state of politics in this nation and you don't get involved in it, you obviously don't hate the state of politics in this nation.
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Sir, he is a Major in the inactive ready reserve (IRR). Accuracy.
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Sure. I'm not saying those former SECDEFs did well. I hope you aren't inferring that he should pick similar this time around. I also don't think it's quite as binary as you present. There is a wide range of people with qualifications worthy of consideration. And I'm sure Trump has taken that into account.
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JB99 said:

It's clear Trump trusts Pete and knows him well. Hiring someone who is loyal and is not going to leak **** constantly and try and sabotage his agenda is probably high on his list.

I'd rather have someone that will say "Mr. President, this is a really ****ing stupid idea, and here's why…" instead of a yes man.
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I have liked most of his other choices. But I kind of doubt this one gets approved.
 
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