Well, he WAS Ford's SecDef...TRM said:That's setting the bar low.Ag with kids said:Donald Rumsfeld was younger...OKCAG02 said:
Youngest SECDEF ever?
Trump names Pete hegseth as defense secretary
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Pete Buttigieg was named secretary of transportation because he likes trains. https://t.co/44U80pBWxZ
— Chef Andrew Gruel (@ChefGruel) November 13, 2024
Not to take away from Pete but,,,4 said:
For those of you unfamiliar with military medals, the bronze star is awarded for heroism in a combat zone.
Pete has 2 of them.
That is not what a Bronze Star is awarded for. It is awarded for doing the job you're trained for, in a combat zone. No heroism needed.
It often goes to staff members, officers in general and senior NCOs. It often does not go to joes in the field, as there is a limit a unit can give out.
If someone has Bronze Star license plates, they were probably a staff pogue, who never left the FOB.
A Bronze Star with a V device is a whole other story.
Absolutely ridiculous. Trump should have selected a Defense Secretary from one of the fine establishment candidates that got us bogged down in the Middle East for 20 years. https://t.co/B28hRqmPqz
— Magills (@magills_) November 13, 2024
OKCAG02 said:How? That is not how military promotions work. Maybe at the highest level, but those guys are long gone now.91Challenger said:OKCAG02 said:45-70Ag said:Aggieland Proud said:
Serious question as I don't know. Does he have power to fire the generals or where does he power actually lie?Trump is now putting together a council that will examine which WOKE Pentagon generals need to be FIRED.
— Eric Daugherty (@EricLDaugh) November 12, 2024
Let’s GO. 🔥
As a 22 year veteran and current active duty member, I don't know how I feel about this. Accountability is important but really don't like the idea of Generals making risk averse decisions in fear of being fired.
Obama gutted the senior leadership of conservatives.
That pretty much is how promotions work at the three and four star level. Three and four star officers are not selected by a board, they are nominated for those ranks by the service chiefs and Secretaries. You are kidding yourself if you don't believe political patronage plays a role in those promotions and assignments.
A four star general will have spent probably 10-12 years at those ranks by the time they retire from active duty at 40 years. I first heard Mark Milley speak in 2014 and he already had four stars. He wore four stars for approximately 8 years.
The three and four star Generals do comprise the promotion boards that select the one and two stars so they can (and do) cull from the herd those officers that aren't "with the program."
Consider the culling of Marine Generals that dissented from David Berger's adventures in force design. Those Generals who remain speak with one voice today and they won't discuss why the Corps can't keep a MEU on station 365 days a year or why Americans have to thumb a ride home when a coup happened in Sudan and there was no NEO force available. These are consequences of politicized leadership.
There was very definitely an ideological filter that was applied to senior leadership promotions during the Obama administration and those officers that rose to the JCS since then were the products of that process. Mission focus lapsed into DEI focus and green energy focus and unisex uniform focus other nonessential BS.
Is anyone aware of a transgender flag officer in the US military?
chickenfingers said:
Does no one see that hiring a Fox News anchor as sec of defense is insane
I see it. Most on here tonight seem more concerned with exploding brains on msm and libs than what is best for our country. This guy isn't it.
I'm jealous. Hack was stud.45-70Ag said:Sameoldag941 said:
I miss old Hackworth
I was 25 when he passed in 2005 and was able to see him speak at Benning before going to my first duty station in 2003. Everything he said to us as young 2nd LT's stuck with me.
The show he was on Saturday mornings at foxnews was pretty good as well.
We had LCOL Steel speak to us. Egomaniac. He finally ended up getting fired.
murphyag said:chickenfingers said:
Does no one see that hiring a Fox News anchor as sec of defense is insane
I see it. Most on here tonight seem more concerned with exploding brains on msm and libs than what is best for our country. This guy isn't it.
So what is? More of the same?
I believe the surprised crowd believes there are many options out there that have all the same beliefs of Hegseth…with more leadership or executive experience. Many in the military, many out of the military. Maybe fresh and unproven has some benefit.
Google Brian Stan if you want a 44 yo example…silver star instead of bronze.
Google Brian Stan if you want a 44 yo example…silver star instead of bronze.
Have serious doubts this dude gets confirmed. .
CNN is an enemy of the state and should be treated as such.
BenFiasco14 said:
Have serious doubts this dude gets confirmed. .
Fig leaf before the pipe hitter shows up, Erik Prince.
maverick2076 said:C@LAg said:wears a ring on his index fingerFIDO*98* said:
All I need to know is in this picture
2/10
wnb
The ring on his index finger is from 22Kill, a nonprofit fighting veteran suicide.
Still gay!
murphyag said:chickenfingers said:
Does no one see that hiring a Fox News anchor as sec of defense is insane
I see it. Most on here tonight seem more concerned with exploding brains on msm and libs than what is best for our country. This guy isn't it.
If his only qualifications was fox news host then I would be concerned. Thankfully he's a 20 year vet retired major with combat experience. Far better than the litany of beaucrats that served in this post over the years
Ulysses90 said:OKCAG02 said:How? That is not how military promotions work. Maybe at the highest level, but those guys are long gone now.91Challenger said:OKCAG02 said:45-70Ag said:Aggieland Proud said:
Serious question as I don't know. Does he have power to fire the generals or where does he power actually lie?Trump is now putting together a council that will examine which WOKE Pentagon generals need to be FIRED.
— Eric Daugherty (@EricLDaugh) November 12, 2024
Let’s GO. 🔥
As a 22 year veteran and current active duty member, I don't know how I feel about this. Accountability is important but really don't like the idea of Generals making risk averse decisions in fear of being fired.
Obama gutted the senior leadership of conservatives.
That pretty much is how promotions work at the three and four star level. Three and four star officers are not selected by a board, they are nominated for those ranks by the service chiefs and Secretaries. You are kidding yourself if you don't believe political patronage plays a role in those promotions and assignments.
A four star general will have spent probably 10-12 years at those ranks by the time they retire from active duty at 40 years. I first heard Mark Milley speak in 2014 and he already had four stars. He wore four stars for approximately 8 years.
The three and four star Generals do comprise the promotion boards that select the one and two stars so they can (and do) cull from the herd those officers that aren't "with the program."
Consider the culling of Marine Generals that dissented from David Berger's adventures in force design. Those Generals who remain speak with one voice today and they won't discuss why the Corps can't keep a MEU on station 365 days a year or why Americans have to thumb a ride home when a coup happened in Sudan and there was no NEO force available. These are consequences of politicized leadership.
There was very definitely an ideological filter that was applied to senior leadership promotions during the Obama administration and those officers that rose to the JCS since then were the products of that process. Mission focus lapsed into DEI focus and green energy focus and unisex uniform focus other nonessential BS.
The Marine Corps needed FD in order to maintain relevancy…if you start calling that a political change you're part of the problem.
JB99 said:murphyag said:chickenfingers said:
Does no one see that hiring a Fox News anchor as sec of defense is insane
I see it. Most on here tonight seem more concerned with exploding brains on msm and libs than what is best for our country. This guy isn't it.
If his only qualifications was fox news host then I would be concerned. Thankfully he's a 20 year vet retired major with combat experience. Far better than the litany of beaucrats that served in this post over the years
So the current SecDef (Lloyd Austin, 4* GO who led in Iraq) must be great by your standards, right?
Looks like he has authored several books.
It might give one an idea where he is coming from.
He's young and doesn't appear to be tied to the military industrial complex (like Cheney)
It seems Trump is bringing in a lot of younger people (the next generation) to replace the rotted out couch
Potatoes of the boomer generation which will serve America well after trumps four years are up. You could say he's setting the table for Vance, Desantis, Moreno, ramaswamy, et al for America after Trump,
I kind of like what I am seeing.
Absolutely pitiful that short timers Ike Nancy Pelosi, chuck shumer et al are making laws that will debilitate our grandchildren long after their worthless remains are feeding worms and pushing up weeds in their local cemeteries.
It might give one an idea where he is coming from.
He's young and doesn't appear to be tied to the military industrial complex (like Cheney)
It seems Trump is bringing in a lot of younger people (the next generation) to replace the rotted out couch
Potatoes of the boomer generation which will serve America well after trumps four years are up. You could say he's setting the table for Vance, Desantis, Moreno, ramaswamy, et al for America after Trump,
I kind of like what I am seeing.
Absolutely pitiful that short timers Ike Nancy Pelosi, chuck shumer et al are making laws that will debilitate our grandchildren long after their worthless remains are feeding worms and pushing up weeds in their local cemeteries.
JB99 said:murphyag said:chickenfingers said:
Does no one see that hiring a Fox News anchor as sec of defense is insane
I see it. Most on here tonight seem more concerned with exploding brains on msm and libs than what is best for our country. This guy isn't it.
If his only qualifications was fox news host then I would be concerned. Thankfully he's a 20 year vet retired major with combat experience. Far better than the litany of beaucrats that served in this post over the years
Not retired still an active Major
“Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience" - Mark Twain
When you've lost Coach…
Does Hegseth even make it to the confirmation hearings?
Sen. Tommy Tuberville (R-AL) on Hegseth DefSec nomination:
— Chad Pergram (@ChadPergram) November 13, 2024
Really? I’d have to think about it
Does Hegseth even make it to the confirmation hearings?
Surprising pick but solid conservative who is a champion for soldiers.
Not sure about the pick so we shall see. Hope he gets a good team around him. I would have rather Trump pick someone with more international experience like William Boykin who has a ton of special forces experience, has been very outspoken against Obama's and Biden's military plans (to the point he got fired from being a professor), Delta force and commanded special operations. A lot of being a good SOD is knowing who to trust and having a network to ask for favors
K2-HMFIC said:
When you've lost Coach…Sen. Tommy Tuberville (R-AL) on Hegseth DefSec nomination:
— Chad Pergram (@ChadPergram) November 13, 2024
Really? I’d have to think about it
Does Hegseth even make it to the confirmation hearings?
They haven't read any of his books. They think he's merely a FoxNews guy. They won't admit it but it's true. Hegseth's confirmation hearings would look at lot like Amy Coney Barrett's hearings i.e. quick extemporaneous answers with no notes needed. He didn't ghost write those books.
K2-HMFIC said:JB99 said:murphyag said:chickenfingers said:
Does no one see that hiring a Fox News anchor as sec of defense is insane
I see it. Most on here tonight seem more concerned with exploding brains on msm and libs than what is best for our country. This guy isn't it.
If his only qualifications was fox news host then I would be concerned. Thankfully he's a 20 year vet retired major with combat experience. Far better than the litany of beaucrats that served in this post over the years
So the current SecDef (Lloyd Austin, 4* GO who led in Iraq) must be great by your standards, right?
He's also a woke *****, so no.
AtticusMatlock said:
IMO Sec Defense needs to be someone with significant leadership and policy experience. He doesn't have it. Might have been a better fit for the VA.
Significance in policy and leadership from the status quo? That's what we're looking to change, champ.
K2-HMFIC said:
When you've lost Coach…Sen. Tommy Tuberville (R-AL) on Hegseth DefSec nomination:
— Chad Pergram (@ChadPergram) November 13, 2024
Really? I’d have to think about it
Does Hegseth even make it to the confirmation hearings?
Trump has a mandate and a decent GOP presence in the senate. All of his nominees will be confirmed.
The best one was the meme (can't find it) where she's holding up the sketch of Jackie treehorns dong pic from big Lebowski.
You should feel risk averse for making decisions based on supposed "white rage".OKCAG02 said:45-70Ag said:Aggieland Proud said:
Serious question as I don't know. Does he have power to fire the generals or where does he power actually lie?Trump is now putting together a council that will examine which WOKE Pentagon generals need to be FIRED.
— Eric Daugherty (@EricLDaugh) November 12, 2024
Let’s GO. 🔥
As a 22 year veteran and current active duty member, I don't know how I feel about this. Accountability is important but really don't like the idea of Generals making risk averse decisions in fear of being fired.
K2-HMFIC said:Teslag said:K2-HMFIC said:suburban cowboy said:Logos Stick said:
Context and info on this guy?
Handsome and a ladies man but….
He actually loves America
I mean that's great and all, but can we have some more qualifications for a guy that controls the military 24/7.
21 year military officer, served in combat, infantry, double bronze star
Cool…he survived.
Chris Miller, Wilkie, Bridge Colby…all VASTLY more qualified…AND confirmable.
There's a real chance Hegseth bows out before the process even starts.
Hegseth it is then!!!
If K2 is opposed, then he is absolutely the right pick!
So here's the deal…
Trump won the electoral college…
Trump won the popular vote…
The Rs took back the Senate…
The Rs kept the House…
This after all of the lawfare and assassination attempts…
Trump has a mandate, whether anyone likes it or not…
He can roll with whomever he wants because of it, and if you stand in his way, you do so at your own political future's peril…
If establishment types hate certain picks, then I will get behind those picks…the whole point is to implement actual change in our government and policies to make us a stronger nation…
Nominating 'more of the same' isn't going to get that done, so I'm all for trying it Trump's way…
Trump won the electoral college…
Trump won the popular vote…
The Rs took back the Senate…
The Rs kept the House…
This after all of the lawfare and assassination attempts…
Trump has a mandate, whether anyone likes it or not…
He can roll with whomever he wants because of it, and if you stand in his way, you do so at your own political future's peril…
If establishment types hate certain picks, then I will get behind those picks…the whole point is to implement actual change in our government and policies to make us a stronger nation…
Nominating 'more of the same' isn't going to get that done, so I'm all for trying it Trump's way…
Inactive Ready Reserve. Not active nor a drilling reservist or guardsman.
All the O-2s in the National Guard are getting a little concerned about getting nominated to be CJCS.
bowhuntr said:
All the O-2s in the National Guard are getting a little concerned about getting nominated to be CJCS.
Your moderate concern is noted
Logos Stick said:K2-HMFIC said:Teslag said:K2-HMFIC said:suburban cowboy said:Logos Stick said:
Context and info on this guy?
Handsome and a ladies man but….
He actually loves America
I mean that's great and all, but can we have some more qualifications for a guy that controls the military 24/7.
21 year military officer, served in combat, infantry, double bronze star
Cool…he survived.
Chris Miller, Wilkie, Bridge Colby…all VASTLY more qualified…AND confirmable.
There's a real chance Hegseth bows out before the process even starts.
Hegseth it is then!!!
If K2 is opposed, then he is absolutely the right pick!
I literally gave you three other people who Trump was considering who are VASTLY more qualified than Major Pete.
K2-HMFIC said:JB99 said:murphyag said:chickenfingers said:
Does no one see that hiring a Fox News anchor as sec of defense is insane
I see it. Most on here tonight seem more concerned with exploding brains on msm and libs than what is best for our country. This guy isn't it.
If his only qualifications was fox news host then I would be concerned. Thankfully he's a 20 year vet retired major with combat experience. Far better than the litany of beaucrats that served in this post over the years
So the current SecDef (Lloyd Austin, 4* GO who led in Iraq) must be great by your standards, right?
If Lloyd Austin was aligned with Trump on his beliefs on the military and foreign policy, but he's not. Alot has to do with the fact that the president dictates the policy.
All god candidates. Explain why Pete would not be confirmable.K2-HMFIC said:Teslag said:K2-HMFIC said:suburban cowboy said:Logos Stick said:
Context and info on this guy?
Handsome and a ladies man but….
He actually loves America
I mean that's great and all, but can we have some more qualifications for a guy that controls the military 24/7.
21 year military officer, served in combat, infantry, double bronze star
Cool…he survived.
Chris Miller, Wilkie, Bridge Colby…all VASTLY more qualified…AND confirmable.
There's a real chance Hegseth bows out before the process even starts.