Smudge said:
Typically yes, that would be a mistake. But this research was walking in lock step with policy makers and their intentions. You cannot separate the two.
And it is an admission. How many times did lord Fauci say the science is settled? All of you sheep took it as gospel and still hold to it. Truly amazing.
Yes. It was bad science. The time was too short. This is obvious now and was before Covid. Phase 3 trials are never that short for this very reason. I remember all the Dems saying this out loud when it was Trumps vaccine. That narrative went away the second Biden was sworn in. All of a sudden short phase 3 trials were totally fine.
Of course I can separate them. Some politician using research to come to conclusions I don't agree with doesn't prevent me from understanding and valuing the research independently. That only makes our use and understanding of research beholden to politicians. Why give them that power?
Who cares what Fauci said? Why does that matter? When have I said you should think this because Fauci said so?
Clinical trials hit their endpoints when they arrive at pre determined outcomes. That happens whenever it happens, the length of time is uncontrolled. Some take a year, some take ten. It depends on the prevalence and time of disease course. What isn't in doubt is that the median time for safety follow up for vaccines in the past 20 years is six months. That's with an average of 3000 people in the trial. These vaccines did the same safety follow up as average with around ten times the normal size group, and then safety was monitored further during the EUA period. as a result the safety of these is better understood that at the same time period of most vaccines, not worse.
But again, same question. How long should the trial have gone? Two years? Ten? How many people needed to be hospitalized or die in the placebo arm? How many people needed to die in the general public?