Running List of Professional Athletes w/ Heart Problems?
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The other thing they had in common - being mortal.
The vaccine doesn't work but I am not convinced it is the one and only cause of these sudden cardiac events.
The vaccine doesn't work but I am not convinced it is the one and only cause of these sudden cardiac events.
Athletes had cardiac events, strokes, and blood clots before Covid no doubt. There are certainly more cases being presented now whether that means they are more publicized or that Covid causes the problems or the vaccine causes the problems is unknown. However, if someone took the time to actually compare baseline EKGs with post vaccination EKGs we might be able to definitely state that the vaccine causes heart damage.Ragoo said:
The other thing they had in common - being mortal.
The vaccine doesn't work but I am not convinced it is the one and only cause of these sudden cardiac events.
Old Dominion sophomore Imo Essien collapses for unknown reasons at today’s game vs Georgia Southern
— Chief Nerd (@TheChiefNerd) January 8, 2023
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This is happening more often than it did prior to the mass mrna "vaccination". Why?
mini computers attached to our hips ready to make once unknown virus formation knownRWWilson said:Old Dominion sophomore Imo Essien collapses for unknown reasons at today’s game vs Georgia Southern
— Chief Nerd (@TheChiefNerd) January 8, 2023
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This is happening more often than it did prior to the mass mrna "vaccination". Why?
Not really. There was definitely a spike in these events after the massRagoo said:mini computers attached to our hips ready to make once unknown virus formation knownRWWilson said:Old Dominion sophomore Imo Essien collapses for unknown reasons at today’s game vs Georgia Southern
— Chief Nerd (@TheChiefNerd) January 8, 2023
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This is happening more often than it did prior to the mass mrna "vaccination". Why?
RWWilson said:Not really. There was definitely a spike in these events after the massRagoo said:mini computers attached to our hips ready to make once unknown virus formation knownRWWilson said:Old Dominion sophomore Imo Essien collapses for unknown reasons at today’s game vs Georgia Southern
— Chief Nerd (@TheChiefNerd) January 8, 2023
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This is happening more often than it did prior to the mass mrna "vaccination". Why?hysteriavaccination.
What is that? It can't be peer-reviewed, because any reviewer wouldn't have allowed that off-set plot that is needlessly 3D. Every single incident has details available in the Supporting Material, right?
94chem,
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2 plus 2 isn't peer reviewed. Being "peer-reviewed" does not determine the veracity of a purported fact. You can go read the article and methodology and you can even show how the numbers are incorrect, but simply asserting "not peer reviewed" does not make a purported fact incorrect. It is a form of the genetic fallacy.94chem said:RWWilson said:Not really. There was definitely a spike in these events after the massRagoo said:mini computers attached to our hips ready to make once unknown virus formation knownRWWilson said:Old Dominion sophomore Imo Essien collapses for unknown reasons at today’s game vs Georgia Southern
— Chief Nerd (@TheChiefNerd) January 8, 2023
pic.twitter.com/GhJa3130Fw
This is happening more often than it did prior to the mass mrna "vaccination". Why?hysteriavaccination.
What is that? It can't be peer-reviewed, because any reviewer wouldn't have allowed that off-set plot that is needlessly 3D. Every single incident has details available in the Supporting Material, right?
Uh, goodsciencing.com. It's right there in the name, good.
Nice genetic fallacy. I guess you don't actually dispute the numbers. Thanks.Zobel said:
Uh, goodsciencing.com. It's right there in the name, good.
Read the list yourself. It's a complete joke, a random collection of media articles about "athletes" like Mike Leach and some 42 year old mom who jogs sometimes. I will extend the best possible assumption that you haven't even glanced at it because if you did and you thought this was a good source, woof.
https://goodsciencing.com/covid/athletes-suffer-cardiac-arrest-die-after-covid-shot/
https://goodsciencing.com/covid/athletes-suffer-cardiac-arrest-die-after-covid-shot/
It is a comparison of stories before and after the "vaccination". The article asserts there were more of these events after vaccination regardless of whether you want to call them athletes or not. I've not done the search myself, but to the extent the numbers are correct they are as concerning as the vast swath of people who actively appear to be avoiding the obvious.Zobel said:
Read the list yourself. It's a complete joke, a random collection of media articles about "athletes" like Mike Leach and some 42 year old mom who jogs sometimes. I will extend the best possible assumption that you haven't even glanced at it because if you did and you thought this was a good source, woof.
https://goodsciencing.com/covid/athletes-suffer-cardiac-arrest-die-after-covid-shot/
There has been a spike in heart attacks among young people. The answer is not to avoid the issue at all costs, but to ask "why"?
We're supposed to ignore collapsing and dying suddenly athletes. All coincidences obviously. Can't be a spike from any prior years. As long as we don't look into it or study it or even begin to suggest the covid vaxxes could be attributable, there will be nothing to see here.
And you think that's compelling research? I tried to give you the benefit of the doubt.
There is a known increase in cardiac events for young persons. Some are speculating it is related to Covid, and that is okay, just don't speculate it may be the magic vaccine that has lead to more and more cases of Covid.oh no said:
We're supposed to ignore collapsing and dying suddenly athletes. All coincidences obviously. Can't be a spike from any prior years. As long as we don't look into it or study it or even begin to suggest the covid vaxxes could be attributable, there will be nothing to see here.
You are not nearly as smart as you try to appear. Not every answer to every question is "double blind pee-reviewed meta analysis". Your demand that every question be answered so makes you look unbelievably weird and silly. I can provide you with a list 52 peer reviewed studies confirming the efficacy of ivermectin. Does that mean ivermectin is effective against covid? I don't personally think so, but hey "peer reviewed mean true and not peer reviewed mean not true".Zobel said:
And you think that's compelling research? I tried to give you the benefit of the doubt.
And apparently you're just as credulous as you appear.
Is that peer reviewed and double blind? If not, it can't be worth considering.Zobel said:
And apparently you're just as credulous as you appear.
The best is the enemy of the good.
So The recent Damar Hamlin thing….guy is in game and tackles someone, taking a hit direct to his chest from the shoulder of the guy he tackled…stands up and then collapses a few seconds later.
There are posters here who'd guess COVID-19 vaccine was the cause of his collapse, not taking a direct hit to his chest a few seconds earlier?
Hopefully nobody is actually going that full 'conspiraloon'. The Hamlin incident it is cut and dry what happened. He took a direct hit to the chest playing a violent sport.
There are posters here who'd guess COVID-19 vaccine was the cause of his collapse, not taking a direct hit to his chest a few seconds earlier?
Hopefully nobody is actually going that full 'conspiraloon'. The Hamlin incident it is cut and dry what happened. He took a direct hit to the chest playing a violent sport.
This is a direct hit to the chest?
My bad, wrong game, but similar hit angle
I don't know and won't theorize what caused his cardiac arrest, but I do not think the "hit" caused it. It simply wasn't violent and direct enough.
My bad, wrong game, but similar hit angle
I don't know and won't theorize what caused his cardiac arrest, but I do not think the "hit" caused it. It simply wasn't violent and direct enough.
Scotty Appleton said:
This is a direct hit to the chest?
My bad, wrong game, but similar hit angle
I don't know and won't theorize what caused his cardiac arrest, but I do not think the "hit" caused it. It simply wasn't violent and direct enough.
Watch the hit in slow-mo. #85's shoulder goes right into the left side of Hamlin's chest (his heart's side) in a collision. They go down, Hamlin gets up and then goes into cardiac arrest.
Suppose I punch any poster here right in his chest on his left side, and a few seconds later that poster's heart has stopped. You think my lawyer can convince a jury it wasn't my fault but the blame was COVID vaccination?
Guys, the witch hunt can go too far at times.
We can no longer deny, and studies support, the contention that the vaccine increases the risk of myocarditis, particularly in young men like Hamlin. Additionally, it is perfectly reasonable, and many physicians share the concern, that myocarditis can increase the risk of arrhythmias caused by impacts to the chest. It is not conspiratorial. It is reasonable to suspect the vaccine may have contributed to the collapse.Pumpkinhead said:
So The recent Damar Hamlin thing….guy is in game and tackles someone, taking a hit direct to his chest from the shoulder of the guy he tackled…stands up and then collapses a few seconds later.
There are posters here who'd guess COVID-19 vaccine was the cause of his collapse, not taking a direct hit to his chest a few seconds earlier?
Hopefully nobody is actually going that full 'conspiraloon'. The Hamlin incident it is cut and dry what happened. He took a direct hit to the chest playing a violent sport.
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2782900
One day you will post an actual study where participants are given baseline tests and all participants are then regularly screened for myocarditis after vaccine doses and boosters. Every study you post completely ignore asymptomatic myocarditis (which constitute a majority of myocarditis cases) and require self-reporting which guarantees underreporting. It's embarrassing coming from someone as smart as you try to appear.
One day you will post an actual study where participants are given baseline tests and all participants are then regularly screened for myocarditis after vaccine doses and boosters. Every study you post completely ignore asymptomatic myocarditis (which constitute a majority of myocarditis cases) and require self-reporting which guarantees underreporting. It's embarrassing coming from someone as smart as you try to appear.
The FDA added a warning for myocarditis in June 2021. I have no idea what you're arguing about.
I'm not arguing, I'm just laughing at your studies that, on the face of them, greatly understate the risk of myocarditis and cardiac events after vaccination and boosters - especially on young males.Zobel said:
The FDA added a warning for myocarditis in June 2021. I have no idea what you're arguing about.
Understate based on what? Goodsciencing.com media clippings?
Based on common sense which is then subject to meta analysis of double blind, peer-reviewed studies because otherwise, how could we possibly even suggest there is an underreporting.Zobel said:
Understate based on what? Goodsciencing.com media clippings?
To their credit, most of the studies you post admit to underreporting but never suggest a magnitude. The studies where subjects all given EKGs after vaccination are better indicators of the incidence of vaccine-induced myocarditis and other heart-related issues following mRNA vax.
Devine ISD had a 35 year old die in classroom last week. Dude looked healthy. RIP Coach Sanchez.
family is keeping cause of death confidential at this time. All fighters in her league were forced to take the jab though.
What you are asking for is not available b/c our government and media do not want to investigate it. I wonder why? If I'm a conspiracy theorist along with hundreds of thousands of others, it shouldn't be too difficult to investigate clotting on the postmortem. Shouldn't be difficult to prove that the rate of healthy young athletes collapsing during competition/training has not spiked since 2020.Zobel said:
Understate based on what? Goodsciencing.com media clippings?
That's not how research works. You don't get to throw out accusations or speculation and then demand everyone investigate them for you.
RWWilson said:We can no longer deny, and studies support, the contention that the vaccine increases the risk of myocarditis, particularly in young men like Hamlin. Additionally, it is perfectly reasonable, and many physicians share the concern, that myocarditis can increase the risk of arrhythmias caused by impacts to the chest. It is not conspiratorial. It is reasonable to suspect the vaccine may have contributed to the collapse.Pumpkinhead said:
So The recent Damar Hamlin thing….guy is in game and tackles someone, taking a hit direct to his chest from the shoulder of the guy he tackled…stands up and then collapses a few seconds later.
There are posters here who'd guess COVID-19 vaccine was the cause of his collapse, not taking a direct hit to his chest a few seconds earlier?
Hopefully nobody is actually going that full 'conspiraloon'. The Hamlin incident it is cut and dry what happened. He took a direct hit to the chest playing a violent sport.
Naw, the Hamlin case is definitely in the 'conspiratorial' category…if somebody is pushing an anti-vax hypothesis storyline RE Hamlin then they are prone to believe conspiracies. Is what it is.
Is it accusations and speculation if it's true? Are they really finding clotting and fibrous structures in the postmortem that were not there before Covid? Seems to be this wouldn't be difficult to investigate. Instead, we'll just call them all conspiracy theorists and antivaxxers.Zobel said:
That's not how research works. You don't get to throw out accusations or speculation and then demand everyone investigate them for you.
Just like we called all the vaccine injured in Senator Ron Johnson's panel discussion. All of those people claiming the deaths/health issues after vaccinations were all just a hoax for attention I guess.
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