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1. Not a lib

2. Never voted for a single one of the representatives that you blame for these issues.

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Cool. You still aren't considering the possibility the shooter acted to substantiate his ideology? After all, the shooter is obviously mentally ill.

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Do I think he selectively shot black people to prove he was a racist? It's definitely part of it.

I spent a lot of time on 4chan during my developmental years, mostly /pol and /b. The things that people said on there before it was as mainstream make the worst TexAgs threads look like a show on PBS.

I absolutely believe someone with lower cognitive function and a mental illness could easily be disillusioned about the world, especially when they're graduating during COVID times. I saw people posting about their plans to do shootings, and they were goaded and encouraged by other users to livestream, post all the gear and plans, and try to beat whatever the latest "high score" was.

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I think it's a grave error to always try and label these type of people as mentally ill. It's a defense mechanism the rest of society uses to try and avoid considering the alternative which is far more terrifying; that among us exist malevolent people who act competently and solely as a means of expressing that malevolence.

The "you have to be mentally ill to do something like this" line of thought is just objectively false.

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Yes it's very blatant and as more evidence continues to come out this was simply a racially motivated attack carried out by a white supremist. The mental Olympics some Juno through to deflect away or sweep that fact under the rug are just air her sign of how low humans can can get especially when in regards to people you may or may not be predisposed of hating.

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Maybe it takes a certain level of mental illness to not only internalize racial hatred but then to indiscriminately kill a bunch of random people.

That goes for the idiot black nationalists too.

Two white people were killed as well is that being left out of the story ?

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1. Not a lib

2. Never voted for a single one of the representatives that you blame for these issues.

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Cool. You still aren't considering the possibility the shooter acted to substantiate his ideology? After all, the shooter is obviously mentally ill.

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Do I think he selectively shot black people to prove he was a racist? It's definitely part of it.

I spent a lot of time on 4chan during my developmental years, mostly /pol and /b. The things that people said on there before it was as mainstream make the worst TexAgs threads look like a show on PBS.

I absolutely believe someone with lower cognitive function and a mental illness could easily be disillusioned about the world, especially when they're graduating during COVID times. I saw people posting about their plans to do shootings, and they were goaded and encouraged by other users to livestream, post all the gear and plans, and try to beat whatever the latest "high score" was.

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I think it's a grave error to always try and label these type of people as mentally ill. It's a defense mechanism the rest of society uses to try and avoid considering the alternative which is far more terrifying; that among us exist malevolent people who act competently and solely as a means of expressing that malevolence.

The "you have to be mentally ill to do something like this" line of thought is just objectively false.

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Yes it's very blatant and as more evidence continues to come out this was simply a racially motivated attack carried out by a white supremist. The mental Olympics some Juno through to deflect away or sweep that fact under the rug are just air her sign of how low humans can can get especially when in regards to people you may or may not be predisposed of hating.

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Maybe it takes a certain level of mental illness to not only internalize racial hatred but then to indiscriminately kill a bunch of random people.

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But history shows it clearly doesn't.

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1. Not a lib

2. Never voted for a single one of the representatives that you blame for these issues.

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Cool. You still aren't considering the possibility the shooter acted to substantiate his ideology? After all, the shooter is obviously mentally ill.

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Do I think he selectively shot black people to prove he was a racist? It's definitely part of it.

I spent a lot of time on 4chan during my developmental years, mostly /pol and /b. The things that people said on there before it was as mainstream make the worst TexAgs threads look like a show on PBS.

I absolutely believe someone with lower cognitive function and a mental illness could easily be disillusioned about the world, especially when they're graduating during COVID times. I saw people posting about their plans to do shootings, and they were goaded and encouraged by other users to livestream, post all the gear and plans, and try to beat whatever the latest "high score" was.

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I think it's a grave error to always try and label these type of people as mentally ill. It's a defense mechanism the rest of society uses to try and avoid considering the alternative which is far more terrifying; that among us exist malevolent people who act competently and solely as a means of expressing that malevolence.

The "you have to be mentally ill to do something like this" line of thought is just objectively false.

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Yes it's very blatant and as more evidence continues to come out this was simply a racially motivated attack carried out by a white supremist. The mental Olympics some Juno through to deflect away or sweep that fact under the rug are just air her sign of how low humans can can get especially when in regards to people you may or may not be predisposed of hating.

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Maybe it takes a certain level of mental illness to not only internalize racial hatred but then to indiscriminately kill a bunch of random people.

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But history shows it clearly doesn't.

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As a lone wolf.... history proves I am correct. Almost every publicized mass shooter is on a myriad of drugs, have multiple violent acts before the final one (usually known to the FBI and they do nothing), and displays clear mental illness.

Where you get to less mental illness in mass shootings organized crime (gang warfare, both black and white). But there was no support structure that we know of for this evil ill person.

Infection_Ag11 said:

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hbtheduce said:

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1. Not a lib

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Cool. You still aren't considering the possibility the shooter acted to substantiate his ideology? After all, the shooter is obviously mentally ill.

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Do I think he selectively shot black people to prove he was a racist? It's definitely part of it.

I spent a lot of time on 4chan during my developmental years, mostly /pol and /b. The things that people said on there before it was as mainstream make the worst TexAgs threads look like a show on PBS.

I absolutely believe someone with lower cognitive function and a mental illness could easily be disillusioned about the world, especially when they're graduating during COVID times. I saw people posting about their plans to do shootings, and they were goaded and encouraged by other users to livestream, post all the gear and plans, and try to beat whatever the latest "high score" was.

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I think it's a grave error to always try and label these type of people as mentally ill. It's a defense mechanism the rest of society uses to try and avoid considering the alternative which is far more terrifying; that among us exist malevolent people who act competently and solely as a means of expressing that malevolence.

The "you have to be mentally ill to do something like this" line of thought is just objectively false.

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Yes it's very blatant and as more evidence continues to come out this was simply a racially motivated attack carried out by a white supremist. The mental Olympics some Juno through to deflect away or sweep that fact under the rug are just air her sign of how low humans can can get especially when in regards to people you may or may not be predisposed of hating.

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Maybe it takes a certain level of mental illness to not only internalize racial hatred but then to indiscriminately kill a bunch of random people.

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But history shows it clearly doesn't.

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I'm also confused by the logic. Is the poster attempting to say there has never been an act of hate committed against random people due solely out of hate and anger and that every single once can be excused away by some means in most instances "mentally ill" ?

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1. Not a lib

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Cool. You still aren't considering the possibility the shooter acted to substantiate his ideology? After all, the shooter is obviously mentally ill.

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Do I think he selectively shot black people to prove he was a racist? It's definitely part of it.

I spent a lot of time on 4chan during my developmental years, mostly /pol and /b. The things that people said on there before it was as mainstream make the worst TexAgs threads look like a show on PBS.

I absolutely believe someone with lower cognitive function and a mental illness could easily be disillusioned about the world, especially when they're graduating during COVID times. I saw people posting about their plans to do shootings, and they were goaded and encouraged by other users to livestream, post all the gear and plans, and try to beat whatever the latest "high score" was.

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I think it's a grave error to always try and label these type of people as mentally ill. It's a defense mechanism the rest of society uses to try and avoid considering the alternative which is far more terrifying; that among us exist malevolent people who act competently and solely as a means of expressing that malevolence.

The "you have to be mentally ill to do something like this" line of thought is just objectively false.

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Yes it's very blatant and as more evidence continues to come out this was simply a racially motivated attack carried out by a white supremist. The mental Olympics some Juno through to deflect away or sweep that fact under the rug are just air her sign of how low humans can can get especially when in regards to people you may or may not be predisposed of hating.

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Maybe it takes a certain level of mental illness to not only internalize racial hatred but then to indiscriminately kill a bunch of random people.

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But history shows it clearly doesn't.

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As a lone wolf.... history proves I am correct. Almost every publicized mass shooter is on a myriad of drugs, have multiple violent acts before the final one (usually known to the FBI and they do nothing), and displays clear mental illness.

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That's just simply not true. The overwhelming majority of lone mass shooters have no obvious mental illness in their history.

Now, most almost certainly have various cluster A and cluster B personality disorders but these do not constitute mental illness. Being a sociopath doesn't make you mentally ill, not in the way the people who want to blow this off as "just the crazies" want to believe.

At least the guy supported Ukraine..and Nazis.

The suspected Buffalo shooter’s manifesto features the Black Sun symbol used by the Azov Battalion in Ukraine. pic.twitter.com/EvzrICYmg2

— Ian Miles Cheong (@stillgray) May 14, 2022

It seems like these pos are not offing themselves anymore after the murders. Why? Wish this a$$ hole spent the night in general population or shared a cell with the biggest, strongest homosexual inmate

BREAKING: The 18-year-old accused of killing 10 people at a Buffalo supermarket had threatened a shooting at his high school last year and was sent for mental health treatment, a law enforcement official told @AP. https://t.co/bi40p1ypmH

— The Associated Press (@AP) May 15, 2022

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1. Not a lib

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Cool. You still aren't considering the possibility the shooter acted to substantiate his ideology? After all, the shooter is obviously mentally ill.

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Do I think he selectively shot black people to prove he was a racist? It's definitely part of it.

I spent a lot of time on 4chan during my developmental years, mostly /pol and /b. The things that people said on there before it was as mainstream make the worst TexAgs threads look like a show on PBS.

I absolutely believe someone with lower cognitive function and a mental illness could easily be disillusioned about the world, especially when they're graduating during COVID times. I saw people posting about their plans to do shootings, and they were goaded and encouraged by other users to livestream, post all the gear and plans, and try to beat whatever the latest "high score" was.

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I think it's a grave error to always try and label these type of people as mentally ill. It's a defense mechanism the rest of society uses to try and avoid considering the alternative which is far more terrifying; that among us exist malevolent people who act competently and solely as a means of expressing that malevolence.

The "you have to be mentally ill to do something like this" line of thought is just objectively false.

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Yes it's very blatant and as more evidence continues to come out this was simply a racially motivated attack carried out by a white supremist. The mental Olympics some Juno through to deflect away or sweep that fact under the rug are just air her sign of how low humans can can get especially when in regards to people you may or may not be predisposed of hating.

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I don't think it's as much about downplaying his racial hatred, but calling out the liberals, media, and government entities that downplay racial attacks when it is the flavor of racism that they adore. Race based attacks against whites are ignored while race based attacks against minorities are amplified.

Similar to the difference in coverage between BLM/Antifa riots and Jan 6th.

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It seems like these pos are not offing themselves anymore after the murders. Why? Wish this a$$ hole spent the night in general population or shared a cell with the biggest, strongest homosexual inmate

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Why, so they can share hair care secrets?

There's a great YouTube video I've watched about how "mental illness" is way over-attributed to mass shooters. More often than not, they are NOT mentally ill. Nikolas Cruz was not mentally ill but tried to fake it in the interrogation room. They compared it to another shooter who showed clear signs of mental illness, according to experts on the subject.

Let me see if I can find it and share it. Based on everything we've seen so far I'd wager this POS in buffalo was not mentally ill, but an avowed white supremacist racist driven by hatred. He also is probably an idiot.

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1. Not a lib

2. Never voted for a single one of the representatives that you blame for these issues.

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Cool. You still aren't considering the possibility the shooter acted to substantiate his ideology? After all, the shooter is obviously mentally ill.

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Do I think he selectively shot black people to prove he was a racist? It's definitely part of it.

I spent a lot of time on 4chan during my developmental years, mostly /pol and /b. The things that people said on there before it was as mainstream make the worst TexAgs threads look like a show on PBS.

I absolutely believe someone with lower cognitive function and a mental illness could easily be disillusioned about the world, especially when they're graduating during COVID times. I saw people posting about their plans to do shootings, and they were goaded and encouraged by other users to livestream, post all the gear and plans, and try to beat whatever the latest "high score" was.

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I think it's a grave error to always try and label these type of people as mentally ill. It's a defense mechanism the rest of society uses to try and avoid considering the alternative which is far more terrifying; that among us exist malevolent people who act competently and solely as a means of expressing that malevolence.

The "you have to be mentally ill to do something like this" line of thought is just objectively false.

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Yes it's very blatant and as more evidence continues to come out this was simply a racially motivated attack carried out by a white supremist. The mental Olympics some Juno through to deflect away or sweep that fact under the rug are just air her sign of how low humans can can get especially when in regards to people you may or may not be predisposed of hating.

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Maybe it takes a certain level of mental illness to not only internalize racial hatred but then to indiscriminately kill a bunch of random people.

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But history shows it clearly doesn't.

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As a lone wolf.... history proves I am correct. Almost every publicized mass shooter is on a myriad of drugs, have multiple violent acts before the final one (usually known to the FBI and they do nothing), and displays clear mental illness.

Where you get to less mental illness in mass shootings organized crime (gang warfare, both black and white). But there was no support structure that we know of for this evil ill person.

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Agreed. These dudes simply have some degree of mental illness. No doubt.

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1. Not a lib

2. Never voted for a single one of the representatives that you blame for these issues.

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Cool. You still aren't considering the possibility the shooter acted to substantiate his ideology? After all, the shooter is obviously mentally ill.

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Do I think he selectively shot black people to prove he was a racist? It's definitely part of it.

I spent a lot of time on 4chan during my developmental years, mostly /pol and /b. The things that people said on there before it was as mainstream make the worst TexAgs threads look like a show on PBS.

I absolutely believe someone with lower cognitive function and a mental illness could easily be disillusioned about the world, especially when they're graduating during COVID times. I saw people posting about their plans to do shootings, and they were goaded and encouraged by other users to livestream, post all the gear and plans, and try to beat whatever the latest "high score" was.

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I think it's a grave error to always try and label these type of people as mentally ill. It's a defense mechanism the rest of society uses to try and avoid considering the alternative which is far more terrifying; that among us exist malevolent people who act competently and solely as a means of expressing that malevolence.

The "you have to be mentally ill to do something like this" line of thought is just objectively false.

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Yes it's very blatant and as more evidence continues to come out this was simply a racially motivated attack carried out by a white supremist. The mental Olympics some Juno through to deflect away or sweep that fact under the rug are just air her sign of how low humans can can get especially when in regards to people you may or may not be predisposed of hating.

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I don't think it's as much about downplaying his racial hatred, but calling out the liberals, media, and government entities that downplay racial attacks when it is the flavor of racism that they adore. Race based attacks against whites are ignored while race based attacks against minorities are amplified.

Similar to the difference in coverage between BLM/Antifa riots and Jan 6th.

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What do you expect, this has been the regular rotation of the democratic party. Example, Created Jim Crowe and Segregation, then have LBJ come in and create the wellfare state. They are in damage control for midterms, and the only thing that has benefited them lately is a race war.

Because everything is blamed on mental illness, I can see a law where guns held by anybody taking a prescription that messes with brain chemistry can't have a gun. Well that's a lot of people so people will get pissed. Blaming mental health is just the easy way to explain why it's happening

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What are you basing that on? The act itself is a sign of mental illness.

Actual shooter manifesto

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Did you always hold these views?
When I was 12 I was deep into communist ideology, talk to anyone from my old highschool and ask about me and you will hear that. From age 15 to 18 however, I consistently moved farther to the right. On the political compass I fall in the mild-moderate authoritarian left category, and I would prefer to be called a populist.

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I haven't paid attention to this situation as I KNEW it would be politicized in seconds. I was pretty sure the headlines I was seeing and hearing were so glaring, there was likely waaaay more to the story.

And, voila, typical butchering media hit job.

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Wait, to most to the people commenting on this early on were ****ing liars? Who would have thunk it?

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Mass murderers and serial killers are the most heavily scrutinized and thoroughly studied individuals in the psychiatric/psychological disciplines. The volume of research, interviews, evaluations and papers on these groups is overwhelming, more than any one person could read in a lifetime. And the overwhelming consensus across the spectrum of such disciplines is that a majority of mass shooters, and an overwhelming majority of those who participate in organized mass murders (ie Nazi SS members) show no evidence of mental illness. Mental illness is far more prevalent among serial killers, but still not al serial killers are mentally ill.

The problem is most lay people believe being a sociopath/psychopath makes one mentally ill. It does not, legally or psychiatrically.

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Mass murderers and serial killers are the most heavily scrutinized and thoroughly studied individuals in the psychiatric/psychological disciplines. The volume of research, interviews, evaluations and papers on these groups is overwhelming, more than any one person could read in a lifetime. And the overwhelming consensus across the spectrum of such disciplines is that a majority of mass shooters, and an overwhelming majority of those who participate in organized mass murders (ie Nazi SS members) show no evidence of mental illness. Mental illness is far more prevalent among serial killers, but still not al serial killers are mentally ill.

The problem is most lay people believe being a sociopath/psychopath makes one mentally ill. It does not, legally or psychiatrically.

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What would be the common characteristic? Sociopaths? Psychopaths? Not loved as a child? Bullying? No normal, mentally healthy person wakes up one day and decides to do this stuff.

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Mass murderers and serial killers are the most heavily scrutinized and thoroughly studied individuals in the psychiatric/psychological disciplines. The volume of research, interviews, evaluations and papers on these groups is overwhelming, more than any one person could read in a lifetime. And the overwhelming consensus across the spectrum of such disciplines is that a majority of mass shooters, and an overwhelming majority of those who participate in organized mass murders (ie Nazi SS members) show no evidence of mental illness. Mental illness is far more prevalent among serial killers, but still not al serial killers are mentally ill.

The problem is most lay people believe being a sociopath/psychopath makes one mentally ill. It does not, legally or psychiatrically.

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What would be the common characteristic? Sociopaths? Psychopaths? Not loved as a child? Bullying? No normal, mentally healthy person wakes up one day and decides to do this stuff.

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The most common trait is a lack of empathy, which is essentially what constitutes sociopathy. This is a personality disorder however, not a mental illness. A statistically significant percentage of our society is made up of sociopaths (around 1-5% being the most common estimates) and the majority never physically hurt anyone. Everyone with any significant degree of social interaction as part of their life interacts with sociopaths pretty regularly.

People with personality disorders are less well equipped to deal with various life stressors and are much easier to "push over the edge" into various unacceptable behaviors. These people are fully competent, clear and coherent though and completely understand the nature of what they are doing. They just either don't care, or believe the ends justify the means. These are generally not "crazy" people.

The reason most people find that hard to accept is because it means anyone who seems "normal" could be capable of something horrendous and we find that terrifying. The idea that someone you interact with every day and seems reasonably well adjusted most of the time is capable of killing large numbers of people one day is very unsettling. We deserpatwlt want all these people to be easily identifiable, the unkempt guy who lives in his mothers basement and mumbles to himself as he walks down the street. We can live with that guy being a mass murderer because "well we should have seen it coming". That way you don't have to worry about Bob in the cubicle next to you bringing a gun to work one day.

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When I was 12 I was deep into communist ideology, talk to anyone from my old highschool and ask about me and you will hear that. From age 15 to 18 however, I consistently moved farther to the right. On the political compass I fall in the mild-moderate authoritarian left category, and I would prefer to be called a populist.

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I haven't paid attention to this situation as I KNEW it would be politicized in seconds. I was pretty sure the headlines I was seeing and hearing were so glaring, there was likely waaaay more to the story.

And, voila, typical butchering media hit job.

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Apparently he was killing animals growing up too (he was raised by a single mother apparently who basically covered up for his behavior by enabling it) and was on the FBI's radar for saying he was going to shoot up a school.

The kid had around $6000 worth of tactical gear and weapons for this. Where is some 18 year old kid get this kind of gear?



Here is the exact body armor that you need to ban!

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Hasn't read the manifesto at all

Just watches CNN scream racism

Accuses others of parroting talking points without thinking

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I was on /pol/ reading the manifesto yesterday you genius

4chan isn't some cool club on the dark side of the internet that you think it is

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Hasn't read the manifesto at all

Just watches CNN scream racism

Accuses others of parroting talking points without thinking

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I was on /pol/ reading the manifesto yesterday you genius

4chan isn't some cool club on the dark side of the internet that you think it is

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Sorry, that's not gonna fly. I'm fully aware that personality disorders constitute disordered and unhealthy thinking, that's literally what I explained to you earlier. The definition you posted here is virtually verbatim what I've said in this thread. But I'm not going to allow you to pretend that this is what most people mean when they call mass shooters "crazy", because we both know it's not. And it's the height of dishonesty for you to now hijack the definition that I've provided you for your own benefit.