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RedComyn said:

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TheEternalPessimist said:

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RedComyn said:

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TheEternalPessimist said:

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There is now more than enough evidence to de-certify. AZ needs to do this asap.

Then on to Georgia, Wisconsin, and PA.

They CAN NOT STOP what is coming.

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There isn't and you're not going to do anything but whine and complain more as you continue to lose.

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There is, and you are a blind fool or a techno-corporatist tool if you can see it. Multiple duplicate ballots with matched signatures.

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Oh no, multiple? And you're certain they're all for Biden and not Trump like all the people that were caught voting for him twice elsewhere because he'd convinced them the election was going to be stolen and so they thought they'd try to counter that?

Well gosh if you're so certain that it's all in Biden's favor then I guess we're just going to have to tell you to suck it up and deal with it because there's no legal mechanism to undo any of this and not one of you is going to do anything else despite all your weekend warrior spec-ops cosplay fantasies.

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NOONE whether a Republican or Democrat should be ok with election fraud.
It's sad that you appear to be.

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They 'won' so the ends justify the means, and the evidence doesn't matter. "The glove doesn't fit.... so you must acquit" is their mantra.... not only for murdering people, but for murdering our electoral process.

larry culpepper said:

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MasonStorm said:

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Anyone with a brain knows elections should be transparent and verifiable. The Democratic response is all the evidence you need.

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Well the audit was completed and it showed Biden won by an even bigger margin, but okay.

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I read the MSN headline. I'm not going to bother looking for myself. Their word is their bond and I'm just a simple folk. You know. A moron.

MasonStorm said:

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Anyone with a brain knows elections should be transparent and verifiable. The Democratic response is all the evidence you need.

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Exactly - their resistance to audits only shows there is even more smoke arising from a potential fire.

If you are confident that you won by so much, then why fight an audit? What are you scared of?

They are scared their fraudulent techniques for stealing elections is going to be exposed.

Interesting, but why would the color ballot be a solid triangle and the scanned/black and white be only an outline of a triangle?

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TexAgs91 said:

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Note the Verified & Approved stamp behind the arrow to the signature block. I'm sure you would pass these ballots as legitimate, right?

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This is what it looks like in color before it is scanned. It's very possible their scanning didn't scan the whole block, just an outline. And their scan isn't in color.

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Anyone know what color the stamp was? Regardless it wouldn't show up on black I guess but the stamp does show up when its over a red area.

But why would the scans make outlines instead of full color (the black triangles and the red signature box and triangles)?

We fixed the keg said:

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Interesting, but why would the color ballot be a solid triangle and the scanned/black and white be only an outline of a triangle?

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To save ink?

Should have let Washington establish a meritocratic monarchy

Funky Winkerbean said:

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We fixed the keg said:

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Interesting, but why would the color ballot be a solid triangle and the scanned/black and white be only an outline of a triangle?

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To save ink?

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Ok, so, yeah, I laughed. Thank you for that one.

HTownAg98 said:

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TexAgs91 said:

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Note the Verified & Approved stamp behind the arrow to the signature block. I'm sure you would pass these ballots as legitimate, right?

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This is what it looks like in color before it is scanned. It's very possible their scanning didn't scan the whole block, just an outline. And their scan isn't in color.

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Ok, that's plausible

TheEternalPessimist said:

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RoadkillBBQ said:

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RedComyn said:

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TheEternalPessimist said:

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RedComyn said:

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TheEternalPessimist said:

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There is now more than enough evidence to de-certify. AZ needs to do this asap.

Then on to Georgia, Wisconsin, and PA.

They CAN NOT STOP what is coming.

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There isn't and you're not going to do anything but whine and complain more as you continue to lose.

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There is, and you are a blind fool or a techno-corporatist tool if you can see it. Multiple duplicate ballots with matched signatures.

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Oh no, multiple? And you're certain they're all for Biden and not Trump like all the people that were caught voting for him twice elsewhere because he'd convinced them the election was going to be stolen and so they thought they'd try to counter that?

Well gosh if you're so certain that it's all in Biden's favor then I guess we're just going to have to tell you to suck it up and deal with it because there's no legal mechanism to undo any of this and not one of you is going to do anything else despite all your weekend warrior spec-ops cosplay fantasies.

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NOONE whether a Republican or Democrat should be ok with election fraud.
It's sad that you appear to be.

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They 'won' so the ends justify the means, and the evidence doesn't matter. "The glove doesn't fit.... so you must acquit" is their mantra.... not only for murdering people, but for murdering our electoral process.

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Sad thing is they're just useful idiots to whoever is manipulating and controlling our government. They're failing to see the true end game. America is on a path to cease to exist in its former glory. What country would they like us to resemble? Canada? Australia? Mexico? China?

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Ok, that's plausible

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Except for the "scanned" copy would be a solid triangle regardless of color, not just an outline.

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Depends on how they set up their scanner. You can see on other larger text on the scan that the letters are outlined, like the box would be. The "save on ink" joke was a good one (thank you for that), so maybe they set it up to treat something that is more than so many pixels wide as white space on the inside to save on space?

I'm not sure the Democratic Party will hold on to certain demographics when this great political shift is complete. Parts of the valley will be purple, others will be red. Same goes for urban areas as well.

As for "independent" commissions - laughable. No one politician would allow for a truly independent deal to be done. There is a a trade going on, no doubt about it. Billions in federal spending and pork are at stake.

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Ok, that's plausible

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Except for the "scanned" copy would be a solid triangle regardless of color, not just an outline.

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Depends on how they set up their scanner. You can see on other larger text on the scan that the letters are outlined, like the box would be. The "save on ink" joke was a good one (thank you for that), so maybe they set it up to treat something that is more than so many pixels wide as white space on the inside to save on space?

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I can't buy this reason. Why would you try to show this as an anomaly if it was clearly part of the scanning system?

"Independent redistricting commissions" generally just means that it's not politicians making the boundaries. It doesn't mean that it's being done without bias like some people want to claim.

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Ok, that's plausible

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Except for the "scanned" copy would be a solid triangle regardless of color, not just an outline.

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Depends on how they set up their scanner. You can see on other larger text on the scan that the letters are outlined, like the box would be. The "save on ink" joke was a good one (thank you for that), so maybe they set it up to treat something that is more than so many pixels wide as white space on the inside to save on space?

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So, should be an easy thing to answer. By that I mean, if this is the case, it should be consistent and repeatable in a quick test.

Just as the OP has egg on their face for running with a small bit of incorrect information, spiking the ball with what we have seen so far shouldn't happen. MCBE should review all the info we are seeing today and validate what is and is not explainable and then move to the answer.

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Note the Verified & Approved stamp behind the arrow to the signature block. I'm sure you would pass these ballots as legitimate, right?

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I would need to learn the explanation from this from the election officials.

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HTownAg98 said:

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We fixed the keg said:

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Ok, that's plausible

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Except for the "scanned" copy would be a solid triangle regardless of color, not just an outline.

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Depends on how they set up their scanner. You can see on other larger text on the scan that the letters are outlined, like the box would be. The "save on ink" joke was a good one (thank you for that), so maybe they set it up to treat something that is more than so many pixels wide as white space on the inside to save on space?

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So, should be an easy thing to answer. By that I mean, if this is the case, it should be consistent and repeatable in a quick test.

Just as the OP has egg on their face for running with a small bit of incorrect information, spiking the ball with what we have seen so far shouldn't happen. MCBE should review all the info we are seeing today and validate what is and is not explainable and then move to the answer.

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100%

HTownAg98 said:

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TexAgs91 said:

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Note the Verified & Approved stamp behind the arrow to the signature block. I'm sure you would pass these ballots as legitimate, right?

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This is what it looks like in color before it is scanned. It's very possible their scanning didn't scan the whole block, just an outline. And their scan isn't in color.

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So a dark stamp across a dark arrow? It makes sense that a scanner might not distinguish it.

Fenrir said:

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"Independent redistricting commissions" generally just means that it's not politicians making the boundaries. It doesn't mean that it's being done without bias like some people want to claim.

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All one has to do is look at states which already use "independent redistricting commissions" and most if not all have districts drawn to heavily favor Democrats.

It appears that some states permit you to vote in person after you have mailed in a ballot. If you do both, the mail-in ballot is not counted.

For example, in Michigan, you can check on-line to see if your mail-in ballot was received. If it has not been received, you have the option of voting in person and the mail-in vote is not counted.

That said, I don't know if this is an option in Arizona.

Just here to point out a couple falsehoods on this thread.

Not agreeing the election was stolen does NOT make someone a Biden voter or a liberal. The versus is also true.

OP was attacked for his source of information then I saw screenshots and tweets used as evidence.

larry culpepper said:

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Anyone with a brain knows elections should be transparent and verifiable. The Democratic response is all the evidence you need.

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Well the audit was completed and it showed Biden won by an even bigger margin, but okay.

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Stop knowingly spouting fake news. The conclusion in the audit report is that the election should be decertified. period.

Malibu2 said:

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captkirk said:

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larry culpepper said:

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Anyone with a brain knows elections should be transparent and verifiable. The Democratic response is all the evidence you need.

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Well the audit was completed and it showed Biden won by an even bigger margin, but okay.

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Stop knowingly spouting fake news. The conclusion in the audit report is that the election should be decertified. period.

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That was always going to be the conclusion from Cyber Ninjas. You don't hire a never head of them Q Anon believing Election Was Stolen contractor like CN unless you're hiring them to find data the justifies a pre-arrived conclusion.

They counted and recounted the votes, found no meaningful discrepancy in the totals, but instead a list of anomalies or statistical oddities. Some of them are worth looking into, and several have already been debunked by Maricopa County as amateur hour shenanigans by a hapless contractor.

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So recounting the same illegitimate and illegally cast ballots as last time should be the end of it? Perhaps your unfamiliar with the difference between a recount and an audit

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Just here to point out a couple falsehoods on this thread.

Not agreeing the election was stolen does NOT make someone a Biden voter or a liberal. The versus is also true.

OP was attacked for his source of information then I saw screenshots and tweets used as evidence.

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This is true.... Multiple outcomes are still in play .... it is an absolute possibility of human error and not outright fraud for some of these issues.

To add, OP was slapped for using some data from a leaked draft which has been pointed out to not be an accurate/full picture of what the data meant. There is definitely data being presented that shows data on both sides, instances of concern, instanced of Biden being under counted by about 100 votes and Trump getting about 640 duplicate votes, etc. The issue is the cherry picking to fit bias.

Said on other thread, still need to hear from MCBE on the anomalies found before any definitive answers.