Sapper Redux said:RebelE Infantry said:
No. It's the assumption that the feminine is disordered in men. Just as masculinity is disordered in women
The assumptions behind both assume the feminine is beneath the masculine.
Explain
Sapper Redux said:RebelE Infantry said:
No. It's the assumption that the feminine is disordered in men. Just as masculinity is disordered in women
The assumptions behind both assume the feminine is beneath the masculine.
Sapper Redux said:BAP Enthusiast said:Sapper Redux said:Rocag said:
Put away your "Jumping to Conclusions" mat for a minute. No one was talking about Teddy Roosevelt at all. Was he kook? I certainly don't consider myself to be an expert on Teddy Roosevelt so I'll reserve judgement on that one.
He was an odd guy.
He was a mmasculine military man who liked physical fitness, like to hunt, was a big talker, and a strong leader. How was he weird? He's generally considered one of the greatest presidents we have ever had.
He was an excellent president. He was also an odd guy. He once called a cabinet meeting because he spotted a rare bird back early from winter migration.
BAP Enthusiast said:Sapper Redux said:BAP Enthusiast said:Sapper Redux said:Rocag said:
Put away your "Jumping to Conclusions" mat for a minute. No one was talking about Teddy Roosevelt at all. Was he kook? I certainly don't consider myself to be an expert on Teddy Roosevelt so I'll reserve judgement on that one.
He was an odd guy.
He was a mmasculine military man who liked physical fitness, like to hunt, was a big talker, and a strong leader. How was he weird? He's generally considered one of the greatest presidents we have ever had.
He was an excellent president. He was also an odd guy. He once called a cabinet meeting because he spotted a rare bird back early from winter migration.
Well he was a conservationist at his core. The man loved nature. I don't see why this is odd.
kurt vonnegut said:Joe Boudain said:Exactlyjrico2727 said:
This
Masculinity is defined as toxic in our times, however as society becomes more and more effeminate we are seeing a complete collapse of morals, the family, and eventually western society.
Tell people you like to watch porn and smoke weed and they'll think you're normal. Tell them you like to lift weights and go to daily mass and they'll think you're a freak.
How do you feel about people that watch porn and smoke weed. Do you consider them normal or freaks?
Aggrad08 said:kurt vonnegut said:Joe Boudain said:Exactlyjrico2727 said:
This
Masculinity is defined as toxic in our times, however as society becomes more and more effeminate we are seeing a complete collapse of morals, the family, and eventually western society.
Tell people you like to watch porn and smoke weed and they'll think you're normal. Tell them you like to lift weights and go to daily mass and they'll think you're a freak.
How do you feel about people that watch porn and smoke weed. Do you consider them normal or freaks?
Most heavy lifters I've known watch porn and smoke weed.
Actually…yup, it was every single one of them
Aggrad08 said:kurt vonnegut said:Joe Boudain said:Exactlyjrico2727 said:
This
Masculinity is defined as toxic in our times, however as society becomes more and more effeminate we are seeing a complete collapse of morals, the family, and eventually western society.
Tell people you like to watch porn and smoke weed and they'll think you're normal. Tell them you like to lift weights and go to daily mass and they'll think you're a freak.
How do you feel about people that watch porn and smoke weed. Do you consider them normal or freaks?
Most heavy lifters I've known watch porn and smoke weed.
Actually…yup, it was every single one of them
Duncan Idaho said:
I also don't think I have ever seen a conversion testimony that only passively mentions Christ and could be boiled down to "I became a christian to own the libs."
Aggrad08 said:kurt vonnegut said:Joe Boudain said:Exactlyjrico2727 said:
This
Masculinity is defined as toxic in our times, however as society becomes more and more effeminate we are seeing a complete collapse of morals, the family, and eventually western society.
Tell people you like to watch porn and smoke weed and they'll think you're normal. Tell them you like to lift weights and go to daily mass and they'll think you're a freak.
How do you feel about people that watch porn and smoke weed. Do you consider them normal or freaks?
Most heavy lifters I've known watch porn and smoke weed.
Actually…yup, it was every single one of them
I think it's an extremely important thing to talk to and even more importantly listen to those that you disagree with. I'd encourage you to grow and do so. Maybe you'd learn that liberals in real life are not Marxists, Satanists, or whatever other Boogeymen you've made them out to be in your mind.Quote:
I don't associate with liberals in real life beyond those I am forced to interact with at work.
Joe Boudain said:
You are anthropomorphic leftism.
PacifistAg said:
I don't see anyone on this thread upset that you've embraced the Christian faith. Most have commented, not on your faith, but on the partisan-lens you seem to view it through. And I'm a devout Christian and far from being a "leftist".
For example, you boast of not associating with "liberals" in real life except those that you're "forced" to at work. Do you think that's a Christian attitude/approach? There you seem to be putting partisan allegiances above your faith. Living in a silo isn't good, nor what we're called to do.
Satanists are typically liberal because that political platform is associated with the ultimate freedom of the individual which has many Satanic elements. It's not some dark twisted pentagram thing. It's simply trying to make the world into an image of the self and not God.Quad Dog said:I think it's an extremely important thing to talk to and even more importantly listen to those that you disagree with. I'd encourage you to grow and do so. Maybe you'd learn that liberals in real life are not Marxists, Satanists, or whatever other Boogeymen you've made them out to be in your mind.Quote:
I don't associate with liberals in real life beyond those I am forced to interact with at work.
So wouldn't Satan be a right wing libertarian? Liberal policies are designed to promote the well-being of all (I'm not arguing whether they work or not, just that's the goal) and limit the promotion of the self at the expense of others.Orthodox Texan said:Satanists are typically liberal because that political platform is associated with the ultimate freedom of the individual which has many Satanic elements. It's not some dark twisted pentagram thing. It's simply trying to make the world into an image of the self and not God.Quad Dog said:I think it's an extremely important thing to talk to and even more importantly listen to those that you disagree with. I'd encourage you to grow and do so. Maybe you'd learn that liberals in real life are not Marxists, Satanists, or whatever other Boogeymen you've made them out to be in your mind.Quote:
I don't associate with liberals in real life beyond those I am forced to interact with at work.
This is the catch though. "Conservative" has been redefined. I remember growing up, they pretended to care about "limited government" and "individual freedom". Those were the alleged hallmarks of conservatism. Now, though, that's all been exposed to be a fraud, so they redefine it to having nothing to do with "individual freedom", but about conserving a "moral" society (ignoring the fact that we've never had a moral society to conserve). So now they brand libertarians as liberals (although they would actually be closest to classical liberals) because they promote the very things that conservatives used to claim to support.Sapper Redux said:So wouldn't Satan be a right wing libertarian? Liberal policies are designed to promote the well-being of all (I'm not arguing whether they work or not, just that's the goal) and limit the promotion of the self at the expense of others.Orthodox Texan said:Satanists are typically liberal because that political platform is associated with the ultimate freedom of the individual which has many Satanic elements. It's not some dark twisted pentagram thing. It's simply trying to make the world into an image of the self and not God.Quad Dog said:I think it's an extremely important thing to talk to and even more importantly listen to those that you disagree with. I'd encourage you to grow and do so. Maybe you'd learn that liberals in real life are not Marxists, Satanists, or whatever other Boogeymen you've made them out to be in your mind.Quote:
I don't associate with liberals in real life beyond those I am forced to interact with at work.
Sapper Redux said:So wouldn't Satan be a right wing libertarian? Liberal policies are designed to promote the well-being of all (I'm not arguing whether they work or not, just that's the goal) and limit the promotion of the self at the expense of others.Orthodox Texan said:Satanists are typically liberal because that political platform is associated with the ultimate freedom of the individual which has many Satanic elements. It's not some dark twisted pentagram thing. It's simply trying to make the world into an image of the self and not God.Quad Dog said:I think it's an extremely important thing to talk to and even more importantly listen to those that you disagree with. I'd encourage you to grow and do so. Maybe you'd learn that liberals in real life are not Marxists, Satanists, or whatever other Boogeymen you've made them out to be in your mind.Quote:
I don't associate with liberals in real life beyond those I am forced to interact with at work.
conservatism has never been about limited government or individual freedom, rather those are benefits of a conservative society.PacifistAg said:This is the catch though. "Conservative" has been redefined. I remember growing up, they pretended to care about "limited government" and "individual freedom". Those were the alleged hallmarks of conservatism. Now, though, that's all been exposed to be a fraud, so they redefine it to having nothing to do with "individual freedom", but about conserving a "moral" society (ignoring the fact that we've never had a moral society to conserve). So now they brand libertarians as liberals (although they would actually be closest to classical liberals) because they promote the very things that conservatives used to claim to support.Sapper Redux said:So wouldn't Satan be a right wing libertarian? Liberal policies are designed to promote the well-being of all (I'm not arguing whether they work or not, just that's the goal) and limit the promotion of the self at the expense of others.Orthodox Texan said:Satanists are typically liberal because that political platform is associated with the ultimate freedom of the individual which has many Satanic elements. It's not some dark twisted pentagram thing. It's simply trying to make the world into an image of the self and not God.Quad Dog said:I think it's an extremely important thing to talk to and even more importantly listen to those that you disagree with. I'd encourage you to grow and do so. Maybe you'd learn that liberals in real life are not Marxists, Satanists, or whatever other Boogeymen you've made them out to be in your mind.Quote:
I don't associate with liberals in real life beyond those I am forced to interact with at work.
Do you honestly believe this rubbish? Heck, to use a recent example, it's social conservatives who are screeching about being fired for not following their private employer's policies. They are the ones, in that example, wanting to act without consequence. But you seem to have created a caricature of right and left, and then assign "godliness" and "sinfulness" based on your caricatures, which conveniently put you in the "godly" camp. Yet, you also admittedly do as the legalists of Jesus' day did and refuse to even engage with those outside your clique.BAP Enthusiast said:Sapper Redux said:So wouldn't Satan be a right wing libertarian? Liberal policies are designed to promote the well-being of all (I'm not arguing whether they work or not, just that's the goal) and limit the promotion of the self at the expense of others.Orthodox Texan said:Satanists are typically liberal because that political platform is associated with the ultimate freedom of the individual which has many Satanic elements. It's not some dark twisted pentagram thing. It's simply trying to make the world into an image of the self and not God.Quad Dog said:I think it's an extremely important thing to talk to and even more importantly listen to those that you disagree with. I'd encourage you to grow and do so. Maybe you'd learn that liberals in real life are not Marxists, Satanists, or whatever other Boogeymen you've made them out to be in your mind.Quote:
I don't associate with liberals in real life beyond those I am forced to interact with at work.
Satan is extremely socially liberal so no he would not be right wing at all. Almost everything considered a virtue by the left is a sin in the Bible: sloth, gluttony, hedonism, etc. are all sins and these are all things Satan promotes. The left wants to be able to act without consequences, which is exactly what Satan wants. He's about as far from social conservatism as you can get. That is modesty and virtuous behaviors are antithetical to his very existence.
Why do you limit Satan? Why can't he be both? Satan's gonna be upset with you.Quote:
So wouldn't Satan be a right wing libertarian?
Welcome to American Christianity.craigernaught said:
I can't believe people are seriously trying to argue about Satan's political beliefs in expressly modern American terms.
Weird thread is weird. Entertaining though!