PabloSerna said:

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You started this thread by saying Catholics should be more like the Taliban. Please do some research on the Taliban before writing something like that. Hard to find any moral good in their actions lately.

Catholics should be more like Jesus brother.

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Time to dust off the sandals. Joe/Bustup is evil. Whether it's wanting to emulate an evil organization like the Taliban, imprison people because he doesn't like who they are, or revealing his racism by sharing antisemitic images, the rotten fruit of a heart consumed by evil is evident.

Joe Boudain said:

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I have nothing but respect, grudging admiration, and disgust at the taliban. They have kept their eye on the prize and haven't been deterred from their goal of an Islamic Caliphate in Afghanistan.

There will be no abortions nor pride parades in Kabul. No rainbow flags flown over embassies. Their relationship to Allah informs their actions and influences every facet of society.

We need to be more like them, intolerance not tolerance is a Christian virtue. Jesus Christ is priest, Prophet, king of the World, and any society that does not claim him as such is doomed to failure.

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I think what OP is getting at is that the Taliban has zeal for their (false) religion, a martial spirit, and absolute unwillingness to compromise with modern decadence.

In a certain light these things are admirable. Our entire civilization is built on Catholic confessional states collectively known as "Christendom." Now Christendom has fallen and I don't think there's anything wrong with wishing for a return to that.

PacifistAg said:

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Staff, seriously can we get this filth that slithered over from F16 off this board. Is the purposeful misgendering and call that I be thrown in jail simply for being who I am not enough?

I guess bustup couldn't resist coming back over here.

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Is misgendering against the terms of service now?

Our entire civilization is built on a lot of stuff, and some of it's ****ty.

If you want to "return to Christendom", convince the population to vote for it. Probably that isn't going to work, but it's the only legal option you have. The other, less legal, option you have is a coup of some kind.

It's understandable that your ideology doesn't allow you to peacefully lose a culture war, but that's why your ideology is a problem. If nobody is buying what you're selling, you turn to violence. That's an option you have, but we have mechanisms to remove you from society if you choose that route.

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The thing that makes me so happy is 1) satanic people like bustup/Joe will not gain power in my life, so he's really just exposing the evil in his heart for no reason, and 2) satanic people like bustup/Joe will not be able to do a damn thing if the day ever comes that I happen to share a public restroom with his wife. Of course, I would only be going in to use the restroom, but the thought of him being apoplectic over not being able to do a damn thing about a trans woman in the proper restroom with his wife makes me happy.

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That's weird that you get happy thinking about using a public restroom around my wife, regardless of context.

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Not happy to be there with her. Happy that you couldn't do **** about it.

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"Hey look, this guy is uncomfortable with a biological male being exposed near his wife, everyone laugh at him"

I'm going to keep this bookmarked as exhibit A whenever anyone tells me the LGBTQIA crew is normal just like we are and it's just a few bad eggs making them look bad.

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Imagine admiring the Taliban, then claiming I'm the one who isn't normal because I think it's funny that you can't do **** about people like me.

I mean, this is why people like you are such cowards. You want someone else to do all these evil things on your behalf, while you sit there apoplectic yet unwilling to do **** yourself.

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I have the most powerful weapon in the world against people like you, Prayer. You're trying to egg me into violence, through belittling me, accusing me of things I haven't done, but it's not going to work. I will pray for you and your family.

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Dude, I'm a pacifist...because I am a follower of Christ. I don't want you to be violent. I want you to repent of the evil you're promoting here. You're the one arguing for violence. Now you're trying to play the victim. But please do pray for me and my family. I'll never turn down prayers, even the self-righteous declaration of "I'm gonna pray for you, even though I never will" types.

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Imagine saying this to King St. Louis IX, Charlemagne, or Doctor of the Church St Bernard of Clairvaux who passionately preached Crusade.

jrico2727 said:

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I thought taking a day of Texags, I wouldn't miss much, lol.

Do Catholics support a theocracy?

If Christ is your king, then by definition you live in a theocracy. For he sits on his throne at the right hand of the Father. Without glorifying any group of terrorists, how are we called to live? Are we not to bring the light of Christ to the world. Do we do that by tolerance of sin, especially the sins that cry to heaven? No, neither does intolerance of sin advocate violence. Despite the incredibly poor choice for comparison in the OP, I don't believe any here have advocated for violence. However it is troubling to see how poorly this thread went, and how personal it became.

For all the professed Christians on this thread. When you pray thy Kingdom come, are you praying for the rule of Christ in your heart, in your home and your country? What does that mean to you? What standard does that mean we all must live under? When Our Lord proclaimed that the gates of hell will not prevail, was this not a call for a offensive campaign against the sin of the world? For the gates are a defensive measure against the Kingdom of Christ that has come to reclaim the world.

We have been taught that separation of church and state is a virtue. How has that worked out? Our government sanctions infanticide, Sodomy, divorce on demand and countless other demonic practices that attack the bedrock if society which is the family.

One thing I do agree with the OP on is patience. Why because we know how this ends. Our Lord will come in glory, he will bring the sword of judgement. He will judge all according to their deeds and create a new heaven and earth.
May by God's grace we all will dwell there with our King.

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Great post.

"Separation of Church and State" is a condemned error. No Catholic may believe it.

That's fine, and I hope any Catholic running for office is clear about their position on this, so we can elect somebody else.

I'd rather have a king who believe his eternal salvation rides on the treatment of his subjects than a President who sells out to special interests every 4 years.

OP, you, through your thoroughly misguided opinion, are a terrible representative of the Church Christ founded.

Athanasius said:

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OP, you, through your thoroughly misguided opinion, are a terrible representative of the Church Christ founded.

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Because he wishes to conform the civil law to Divine Law? Because he has zeal for the Faith? Because he believes that the current wicked order must be deposed?

I am pretty sure he was referring to a earthly monarch and not Christ. However, Christ is our king and we are his subjects. Out of his humility he became friends with his apostles to whom he is referring in scripture and with us if we have cultivated our hearts to be like his. Remember if you love Christ you will keep his commandments as he has said. It is a modern innovation to have this image of a Buddy Christ who tolerates all, regardless of conversion of heart. A concept where he is one of many good teachers who all have a path to God. I fear many will be placed with the goats at the judgment and told to depart from him for he knows them not, for believing this false gospel.

jrico2727 said:

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I am pretty sure he was referring to a earthly monarch and not Christ. However, Christ is our king and we are his subjects. Out of his humility he became friends with his apostles to whom he is referring in scripture and with us if we have cultivated our hearts to be like his. Remember if you love Christ you will keep his commandments as he has said. It is a modern innovation to have this image of a Buddy Christ who tolerates all, regardless of conversion of heart. A concept where he is one of many good teachers who all have a path to God. I fear many will be placed with the goats at the judgment and told to depart from him for he knows them not, for believing this false gospel.

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For many the Church is a rotary club that gives some lip service to the corporal works of mercy, and it stops there.

OP, you know how I can tell you're not an Afghanistan vet? You are talking out of your . . . lack of knowledge.

You need to drop your grudging admiration for the Taliban. They are pure evil with no redeeming qualities. You do not want to be like them.

There is nothing they won't do for power. If you're Catholic, then that alone separates them from you. Even their own religion won't restrain them. If Islam prohibits the Taliban from doing anything they want, they just get one of their Mullahs to issue a fatwa saying it's all a-ok.

When I was in Afghanistan they shot up the bazaar in Delaram just to remind everyone that they were still around. They tried to blow up one of our convoys with a remote-controlled IED daisy chain, and when we avoided it they triggered the IED on a bus full of Afghan civilians. Even though I was on painkillers from a back injury, I stood in line after my shift in BDOC and donated blood in an attempt to save the life of one of their victims.

And if my personal experience doesn't convince you, turn on the news.

Be thankful to God that you - and we - are not like them. If you want inspiration, go pick up Fox's Book of Martyrs.

Also, need to point out, we sometimes attend daily mass, we do not attend mass daily, Catholics will understand haha

1st Generation Ag said:

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OP, you know how I can tell you're not an Afghanistan vet? You are talking out of your . . . lack of knowledge.

You need to drop your grudging admiration for the Taliban. They are pure evil with no redeeming qualities. You do not want to be like them.

There is nothing they won't do for power. If you're Catholic, then that alone separates them from you. Even their own religion won't restrain them. If Islam prohibits the Taliban from doing anything they want, they just get one of their Mullahs to issue a fatwa saying it's all a-ok.

When I was in Afghanistan they shot up the bazaar in Delaram just to remind everyone that they were still around. They tried to blow up one of our convoys with a remote-controlled IED daisy chain, and when we avoided it they triggered the IED on a bus full of Afghan civilians. Even though I was on painkillers from a back injury, I stood in line after my shift in BDOC and donated blood in an attempt to save the life of one of their victims.

And if my personal experience doesn't convince you, turn on the news.

Be thankful to God that you - and we - are not like them. If you want inspiration, go pick up Fox's Book of Martyrs.

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I am an Afghanistan vet and I see where he's coming from and more or less agree with him.

He's not arguing that we should be blowing up busses full of civilians. He is referring to their religious zeal and martial spirit. A willingness to fight relentlessly to achieve your goals.

Heck if only 10% of Catholics had the zeal that these dudes do for their false religion, then things like like abortion would be an absurd and outlandish fantasy.

PacifistAg said:

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After reading the last few maniacal ramblings of the resident Taliban supporter, now all I can picture is a bunch of internet warriors getting together in their garage and having slap fights...oops I mean "boxing matches"...to prove how tough they are.

I think that's "martial spirit" to this crew.

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Note well how the trans dude is denigrating traditional male bonding activities.