Joe Boudain said:

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dermdoc said:

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Joe Boudain said:

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dermdoc said:

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Joe Boudain said:

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PacifistAg said:

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dermdoc said:

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Joe Boudain said:

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dermdoc said:

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Joe Boudain said:

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dermdoc said:

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Joe Boudain said:

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dermdoc said:

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Joe Boudain said:

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PacifistAg said:

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dermdoc said:

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Matthew 5:39

But I tell you, do not resist an evil person, if anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek.

How does that fit with your "theology"?

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Just as I thought. Matthew 5:39 is totally hyperbole, but Jesus really meant we should tie a millstone around people's neck and throw them in the sea.

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Yes, sins against children are more serious than sins against others, which is why christ singles out children and not adults. Also why the church allows the death penalty in extreme cases and not abortion.

---

Can you give me Scriptural references for a Christ led earthly military kingdom?

Thanks.

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His kingdom was not of this world as he says explicitly during his Passion. Instead of extremely vague searching questions, cut to the point. What are you trying to prove?

---

My point is Christ never advocated the things you are advocating in your op.

So you are an antichrist by definition.

---

Did Christ advocate for throwing abortionists in prison? Am I an antichrist for that as well?

---

I am pro life. What does that have to do with establishing a Taliban theocracy?

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Hold up a second, isn't that what you told me? Christ didn't advocate for what I was advocating for? Am I an antichrist for wanting to criminalize abortion?

---

All I know is Christ never asked government to do anything.

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Yep. I wouldn't be surprised if he's opposed to social welfare programs for, say, the homeless and hungry because "that's not government's job. It's the church's", yet when it gives him a chance to kill or imprison those he deems immoral, then all of a sudden it's "yay government!"

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You would be wrong. I support government programs and think they should do more social engineering, again like Hungary

---

Scriptures about "social engineering"?

You really are an antichrist.

---

Jews? Soldiers? Are you going to answer any of my questions? Are the Jews antichrists?

You know social engineering like paid maternal leave, down payment assistance for housing, job training, those terrible things

---

So no Scripture?

---

This is not how an educated person discusses something. Asking question after question and refusing to answer anything.

What is your claim? That everything not explicitly covered in scripture is antichrist?

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dermdoc said:

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Joe Boudain said:

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dermdoc said:

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Joe Boudain said:

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dermdoc said:

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Joe Boudain said:

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PacifistAg said:

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dermdoc said:

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Joe Boudain said:

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dermdoc said:

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Joe Boudain said:

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dermdoc said:

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Joe Boudain said:

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dermdoc said:

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Joe Boudain said:

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PacifistAg said:

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dermdoc said:

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Matthew 5:39

But I tell you, do not resist an evil person, if anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek.

How does that fit with your "theology"?

---

Just as I thought. Matthew 5:39 is totally hyperbole, but Jesus really meant we should tie a millstone around people's neck and throw them in the sea.

---

Yes, sins against children are more serious than sins against others, which is why christ singles out children and not adults. Also why the church allows the death penalty in extreme cases and not abortion.

---

Can you give me Scriptural references for a Christ led earthly military kingdom?

Thanks.

---

His kingdom was not of this world as he says explicitly during his Passion. Instead of extremely vague searching questions, cut to the point. What are you trying to prove?

---

My point is Christ never advocated the things you are advocating in your op.

So you are an antichrist by definition.

---

Did Christ advocate for throwing abortionists in prison? Am I an antichrist for that as well?

---

I am pro life. What does that have to do with establishing a Taliban theocracy?

---

Hold up a second, isn't that what you told me? Christ didn't advocate for what I was advocating for? Am I an antichrist for wanting to criminalize abortion?

---

All I know is Christ never asked government to do anything.

---

Yep. I wouldn't be surprised if he's opposed to social welfare programs for, say, the homeless and hungry because "that's not government's job. It's the church's", yet when it gives him a chance to kill or imprison those he deems immoral, then all of a sudden it's "yay government!"

---

You would be wrong. I support government programs and think they should do more social engineering, again like Hungary

---

Scriptures about "social engineering"?

You really are an antichrist.

---

Jews? Soldiers? Are you going to answer any of my questions? Are the Jews antichrists?

You know social engineering like paid maternal leave, down payment assistance for housing, job training, those terrible things

---

So no Scripture?

---

This is not how an educated person discusses something. Asking question after question and refusing to answer anything.

What is your claim? That everything not explicitly covered in scripture is antichrist?

---

No I have given Scripture supporting my view. Where is yours?

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dermdoc said:

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Joe Boudain said:

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dermdoc said:

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Joe Boudain said:

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dermdoc said:

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Joe Boudain said:

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dermdoc said:

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Joe Boudain said:

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PacifistAg said:

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dermdoc said:

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Joe Boudain said:

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dermdoc said:

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Joe Boudain said:

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dermdoc said:

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Joe Boudain said:

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dermdoc said:

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Joe Boudain said:

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PacifistAg said:

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dermdoc said:

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Matthew 5:39

But I tell you, do not resist an evil person, if anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek.

How does that fit with your "theology"?

---

Just as I thought. Matthew 5:39 is totally hyperbole, but Jesus really meant we should tie a millstone around people's neck and throw them in the sea.

---

Yes, sins against children are more serious than sins against others, which is why christ singles out children and not adults. Also why the church allows the death penalty in extreme cases and not abortion.

---

Can you give me Scriptural references for a Christ led earthly military kingdom?

Thanks.

---

His kingdom was not of this world as he says explicitly during his Passion. Instead of extremely vague searching questions, cut to the point. What are you trying to prove?

---

My point is Christ never advocated the things you are advocating in your op.

So you are an antichrist by definition.

---

Did Christ advocate for throwing abortionists in prison? Am I an antichrist for that as well?

---

I am pro life. What does that have to do with establishing a Taliban theocracy?

---

Hold up a second, isn't that what you told me? Christ didn't advocate for what I was advocating for? Am I an antichrist for wanting to criminalize abortion?

---

All I know is Christ never asked government to do anything.

---

Yep. I wouldn't be surprised if he's opposed to social welfare programs for, say, the homeless and hungry because "that's not government's job. It's the church's", yet when it gives him a chance to kill or imprison those he deems immoral, then all of a sudden it's "yay government!"

---

You would be wrong. I support government programs and think they should do more social engineering, again like Hungary

---

Scriptures about "social engineering"?

You really are an antichrist.

---

Jews? Soldiers? Are you going to answer any of my questions? Are the Jews antichrists?

You know social engineering like paid maternal leave, down payment assistance for housing, job training, those terrible things

---

So no Scripture?

---

This is not how an educated person discusses something. Asking question after question and refusing to answer anything.

What is your claim? That everything not explicitly covered in scripture is antichrist?

---

No I have given Scripture supporting my view. Where is yours?

---

My views are based on the teachings of the Holy Catholic Church, the body of Christ charged with shepherding the earthly flock until the 2nd coming.

Plus I even provided you Scripture in my rebuttal to your hyperbolic interpretation of scripture and Pacifist's confirmation bias regarding pacifism.

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Okay. Where does the Catholic Church advocate using force, like the Taliban, to enforce their views?

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Joe Boudain said:

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dermdoc said:

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Joe Boudain said:

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dermdoc said:

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Joe Boudain said:

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dermdoc said:

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Joe Boudain said:

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dermdoc said:

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Joe Boudain said:

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PacifistAg said:

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dermdoc said:

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Joe Boudain said:

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dermdoc said:

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Joe Boudain said:

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dermdoc said:

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Joe Boudain said:

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dermdoc said:

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Joe Boudain said:

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PacifistAg said:

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dermdoc said:

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Matthew 5:39

But I tell you, do not resist an evil person, if anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek.

How does that fit with your "theology"?

---

Just as I thought. Matthew 5:39 is totally hyperbole, but Jesus really meant we should tie a millstone around people's neck and throw them in the sea.

---

Yes, sins against children are more serious than sins against others, which is why christ singles out children and not adults. Also why the church allows the death penalty in extreme cases and not abortion.

---

Can you give me Scriptural references for a Christ led earthly military kingdom?

Thanks.

---

His kingdom was not of this world as he says explicitly during his Passion. Instead of extremely vague searching questions, cut to the point. What are you trying to prove?

---

My point is Christ never advocated the things you are advocating in your op.

So you are an antichrist by definition.

---

Did Christ advocate for throwing abortionists in prison? Am I an antichrist for that as well?

---

I am pro life. What does that have to do with establishing a Taliban theocracy?

---

Hold up a second, isn't that what you told me? Christ didn't advocate for what I was advocating for? Am I an antichrist for wanting to criminalize abortion?

---

All I know is Christ never asked government to do anything.

---

Yep. I wouldn't be surprised if he's opposed to social welfare programs for, say, the homeless and hungry because "that's not government's job. It's the church's", yet when it gives him a chance to kill or imprison those he deems immoral, then all of a sudden it's "yay government!"

---

You would be wrong. I support government programs and think they should do more social engineering, again like Hungary

---

Scriptures about "social engineering"?

You really are an antichrist.

---

Jews? Soldiers? Are you going to answer any of my questions? Are the Jews antichrists?

You know social engineering like paid maternal leave, down payment assistance for housing, job training, those terrible things

---

So no Scripture?

---

This is not how an educated person discusses something. Asking question after question and refusing to answer anything.

What is your claim? That everything not explicitly covered in scripture is antichrist?

---

No I have given Scripture supporting my view. Where is yours?

---

My views are based on the teachings of the Holy Catholic Church, the body of Christ charged with shepherding the earthly flock until the 2nd coming.

Plus I even provided you Scripture in my rebuttal to your hyperbolic interpretation of scripture and Pacifist's confirmation bias regarding pacifism.

---

Okay. Where does the Catholic Church advocate using force, like the Taliban, to enforce their views?

---

Many places, but first and most widely respected by all flavor of Christians is Augustinian Contra Faustum Manicheam, St. Thomas Aquinas goes much further into depth but many Protestants don't honor him.

You should also narrow your query to the New Testament as old Testament law is chock full of violence and death penalties for all number of sins

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dermdoc said:

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Joe Boudain said:

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dermdoc said:

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Joe Boudain said:

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dermdoc said:

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Joe Boudain said:

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dermdoc said:

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Joe Boudain said:

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dermdoc said:

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Joe Boudain said:

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PacifistAg said:

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dermdoc said:

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Joe Boudain said:

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dermdoc said:

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Joe Boudain said:

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dermdoc said:

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Joe Boudain said:

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dermdoc said:

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Joe Boudain said:

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PacifistAg said:

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dermdoc said:

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Matthew 5:39

But I tell you, do not resist an evil person, if anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek.

How does that fit with your "theology"?

---

Just as I thought. Matthew 5:39 is totally hyperbole, but Jesus really meant we should tie a millstone around people's neck and throw them in the sea.

---

Yes, sins against children are more serious than sins against others, which is why christ singles out children and not adults. Also why the church allows the death penalty in extreme cases and not abortion.

---

Can you give me Scriptural references for a Christ led earthly military kingdom?

Thanks.

---

His kingdom was not of this world as he says explicitly during his Passion. Instead of extremely vague searching questions, cut to the point. What are you trying to prove?

---

My point is Christ never advocated the things you are advocating in your op.

So you are an antichrist by definition.

---

Did Christ advocate for throwing abortionists in prison? Am I an antichrist for that as well?

---

I am pro life. What does that have to do with establishing a Taliban theocracy?

---

Hold up a second, isn't that what you told me? Christ didn't advocate for what I was advocating for? Am I an antichrist for wanting to criminalize abortion?

---

All I know is Christ never asked government to do anything.

---

Yep. I wouldn't be surprised if he's opposed to social welfare programs for, say, the homeless and hungry because "that's not government's job. It's the church's", yet when it gives him a chance to kill or imprison those he deems immoral, then all of a sudden it's "yay government!"

---

You would be wrong. I support government programs and think they should do more social engineering, again like Hungary

---

Scriptures about "social engineering"?

You really are an antichrist.

---

Jews? Soldiers? Are you going to answer any of my questions? Are the Jews antichrists?

You know social engineering like paid maternal leave, down payment assistance for housing, job training, those terrible things

---

So no Scripture?

---

This is not how an educated person discusses something. Asking question after question and refusing to answer anything.

What is your claim? That everything not explicitly covered in scripture is antichrist?

---

No I have given Scripture supporting my view. Where is yours?

---

My views are based on the teachings of the Holy Catholic Church, the body of Christ charged with shepherding the earthly flock until the 2nd coming.

Plus I even provided you Scripture in my rebuttal to your hyperbolic interpretation of scripture and Pacifist's confirmation bias regarding pacifism.

---

Okay. Where does the Catholic Church advocate using force, like the Taliban, to enforce their views?

---

Many places, but first and most widely respected by all flavor of Christians is Augustinian Contra Faustum Manicheam, St. Thomas Aquinas goes much further into depth but many Protestants don't honor him.

You should also narrow your query to the New Testament as old Testament law is chock full of violence and death penalties for all number of sins

---

So Augustine and Aquinas advocated a Catholic theocracy?

How is that Biblical?

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PacifistAg said:

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And of course, he's ignoring the first 250-300 years in church history.

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Joe Boudain said:

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dermdoc said:

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Joe Boudain said:

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dermdoc said:

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Joe Boudain said:

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dermdoc said:

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Joe Boudain said:

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dermdoc said:

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Joe Boudain said:

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dermdoc said:

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Joe Boudain said:

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PacifistAg said:

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dermdoc said:

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Joe Boudain said:

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dermdoc said:

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Joe Boudain said:

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dermdoc said:

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Joe Boudain said:

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dermdoc said:

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Joe Boudain said:

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PacifistAg said:

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dermdoc said:

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Matthew 5:39

But I tell you, do not resist an evil person, if anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek.

How does that fit with your "theology"?

---

Just as I thought. Matthew 5:39 is totally hyperbole, but Jesus really meant we should tie a millstone around people's neck and throw them in the sea.

---

Yes, sins against children are more serious than sins against others, which is why christ singles out children and not adults. Also why the church allows the death penalty in extreme cases and not abortion.

---

Can you give me Scriptural references for a Christ led earthly military kingdom?

Thanks.

---

His kingdom was not of this world as he says explicitly during his Passion. Instead of extremely vague searching questions, cut to the point. What are you trying to prove?

---

My point is Christ never advocated the things you are advocating in your op.

So you are an antichrist by definition.

---

Did Christ advocate for throwing abortionists in prison? Am I an antichrist for that as well?

---

I am pro life. What does that have to do with establishing a Taliban theocracy?

---

Hold up a second, isn't that what you told me? Christ didn't advocate for what I was advocating for? Am I an antichrist for wanting to criminalize abortion?

---

All I know is Christ never asked government to do anything.

---

Yep. I wouldn't be surprised if he's opposed to social welfare programs for, say, the homeless and hungry because "that's not government's job. It's the church's", yet when it gives him a chance to kill or imprison those he deems immoral, then all of a sudden it's "yay government!"

---

You would be wrong. I support government programs and think they should do more social engineering, again like Hungary

---

Scriptures about "social engineering"?

You really are an antichrist.

---

Jews? Soldiers? Are you going to answer any of my questions? Are the Jews antichrists?

You know social engineering like paid maternal leave, down payment assistance for housing, job training, those terrible things

---

So no Scripture?

---

This is not how an educated person discusses something. Asking question after question and refusing to answer anything.

What is your claim? That everything not explicitly covered in scripture is antichrist?

---

No I have given Scripture supporting my view. Where is yours?

---

My views are based on the teachings of the Holy Catholic Church, the body of Christ charged with shepherding the earthly flock until the 2nd coming.

Plus I even provided you Scripture in my rebuttal to your hyperbolic interpretation of scripture and Pacifist's confirmation bias regarding pacifism.

---

Okay. Where does the Catholic Church advocate using force, like the Taliban, to enforce their views?

---

Many places, but first and most widely respected by all flavor of Christians is Augustinian Contra Faustum Manicheam, St. Thomas Aquinas goes much further into depth but many Protestants don't honor him.

You should also narrow your query to the New Testament as old Testament law is chock full of violence and death penalties for all number of sins

---

So Augustine and Aquinas advocated a Catholic theocracy?

How is that Biblical?

---

Aquinas literally was born in the Catholic Kingdom of Sicily and died in the Papal State, the precursor to the Vatican. St.Augustine's most famous literary work City of God, is a treatise on combining the Kingdom of God and the Kingdom of Man into one cohesive holistic society.

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dermdoc said:

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Joe Boudain said:

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dermdoc said:

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Joe Boudain said:

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dermdoc said:

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Joe Boudain said:

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dermdoc said:

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Joe Boudain said:

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dermdoc said:

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Joe Boudain said:

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dermdoc said:

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Joe Boudain said:

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PacifistAg said:

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dermdoc said:

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Joe Boudain said:

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dermdoc said:

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Joe Boudain said:

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dermdoc said:

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Joe Boudain said:

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dermdoc said:

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Joe Boudain said:

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PacifistAg said:

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dermdoc said:

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Matthew 5:39

But I tell you, do not resist an evil person, if anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek.

How does that fit with your "theology"?

---

Just as I thought. Matthew 5:39 is totally hyperbole, but Jesus really meant we should tie a millstone around people's neck and throw them in the sea.

---

Yes, sins against children are more serious than sins against others, which is why christ singles out children and not adults. Also why the church allows the death penalty in extreme cases and not abortion.

---

Can you give me Scriptural references for a Christ led earthly military kingdom?

Thanks.

---

His kingdom was not of this world as he says explicitly during his Passion. Instead of extremely vague searching questions, cut to the point. What are you trying to prove?

---

My point is Christ never advocated the things you are advocating in your op.

So you are an antichrist by definition.

---

Did Christ advocate for throwing abortionists in prison? Am I an antichrist for that as well?

---

I am pro life. What does that have to do with establishing a Taliban theocracy?

---

Hold up a second, isn't that what you told me? Christ didn't advocate for what I was advocating for? Am I an antichrist for wanting to criminalize abortion?

---

All I know is Christ never asked government to do anything.

---

Yep. I wouldn't be surprised if he's opposed to social welfare programs for, say, the homeless and hungry because "that's not government's job. It's the church's", yet when it gives him a chance to kill or imprison those he deems immoral, then all of a sudden it's "yay government!"

---

You would be wrong. I support government programs and think they should do more social engineering, again like Hungary

---

Scriptures about "social engineering"?

You really are an antichrist.

---

Jews? Soldiers? Are you going to answer any of my questions? Are the Jews antichrists?

You know social engineering like paid maternal leave, down payment assistance for housing, job training, those terrible things

---

So no Scripture?

---

This is not how an educated person discusses something. Asking question after question and refusing to answer anything.

What is your claim? That everything not explicitly covered in scripture is antichrist?

---

No I have given Scripture supporting my view. Where is yours?

---

My views are based on the teachings of the Holy Catholic Church, the body of Christ charged with shepherding the earthly flock until the 2nd coming.

Plus I even provided you Scripture in my rebuttal to your hyperbolic interpretation of scripture and Pacifist's confirmation bias regarding pacifism.

---

Okay. Where does the Catholic Church advocate using force, like the Taliban, to enforce their views?

---

Many places, but first and most widely respected by all flavor of Christians is Augustinian Contra Faustum Manicheam, St. Thomas Aquinas goes much further into depth but many Protestants don't honor him.

You should also narrow your query to the New Testament as old Testament law is chock full of violence and death penalties for all number of sins

---

So Augustine and Aquinas advocated a Catholic theocracy?

How is that Biblical?

---

Aquinas literally was born in the Catholic Kingdom of Sicily and died in the Papal State, the precursor to the Vatican. St.Augustine's most famous literary work City of God, is a treatise on combining the Kingdom of God and the Kingdom of Man into one cohesive holistic society.

---

Cool.
So either one of those guys suggest military takeover with killing, etc.

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Joe Boudain said:

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dermdoc said:

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Joe Boudain said:

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dermdoc said:

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Joe Boudain said:

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dermdoc said:

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Joe Boudain said:

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dermdoc said:

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Joe Boudain said:

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dermdoc said:

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Joe Boudain said:

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dermdoc said:

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Joe Boudain said:

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PacifistAg said:

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dermdoc said:

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Joe Boudain said:

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dermdoc said:

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Joe Boudain said:

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dermdoc said:

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Joe Boudain said:

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dermdoc said:

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Joe Boudain said:

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PacifistAg said:

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dermdoc said:

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Matthew 5:39

But I tell you, do not resist an evil person, if anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek.

How does that fit with your "theology"?

---

Just as I thought. Matthew 5:39 is totally hyperbole, but Jesus really meant we should tie a millstone around people's neck and throw them in the sea.

---

Yes, sins against children are more serious than sins against others, which is why christ singles out children and not adults. Also why the church allows the death penalty in extreme cases and not abortion.

---

Can you give me Scriptural references for a Christ led earthly military kingdom?

Thanks.

---

His kingdom was not of this world as he says explicitly during his Passion. Instead of extremely vague searching questions, cut to the point. What are you trying to prove?

---

My point is Christ never advocated the things you are advocating in your op.

So you are an antichrist by definition.

---

Did Christ advocate for throwing abortionists in prison? Am I an antichrist for that as well?

---

I am pro life. What does that have to do with establishing a Taliban theocracy?

---

Hold up a second, isn't that what you told me? Christ didn't advocate for what I was advocating for? Am I an antichrist for wanting to criminalize abortion?

---

All I know is Christ never asked government to do anything.

---

Yep. I wouldn't be surprised if he's opposed to social welfare programs for, say, the homeless and hungry because "that's not government's job. It's the church's", yet when it gives him a chance to kill or imprison those he deems immoral, then all of a sudden it's "yay government!"

---

You would be wrong. I support government programs and think they should do more social engineering, again like Hungary

---

Scriptures about "social engineering"?

You really are an antichrist.

---

Jews? Soldiers? Are you going to answer any of my questions? Are the Jews antichrists?

You know social engineering like paid maternal leave, down payment assistance for housing, job training, those terrible things

---

So no Scripture?

---

This is not how an educated person discusses something. Asking question after question and refusing to answer anything.

What is your claim? That everything not explicitly covered in scripture is antichrist?

---

No I have given Scripture supporting my view. Where is yours?

---

My views are based on the teachings of the Holy Catholic Church, the body of Christ charged with shepherding the earthly flock until the 2nd coming.

Plus I even provided you Scripture in my rebuttal to your hyperbolic interpretation of scripture and Pacifist's confirmation bias regarding pacifism.

---

Okay. Where does the Catholic Church advocate using force, like the Taliban, to enforce their views?

---

Many places, but first and most widely respected by all flavor of Christians is Augustinian Contra Faustum Manicheam, St. Thomas Aquinas goes much further into depth but many Protestants don't honor him.

You should also narrow your query to the New Testament as old Testament law is chock full of violence and death penalties for all number of sins

---

So Augustine and Aquinas advocated a Catholic theocracy?

How is that Biblical?

---

Aquinas literally was born in the Catholic Kingdom of Sicily and died in the Papal State, the precursor to the Vatican. St.Augustine's most famous literary work City of God, is a treatise on combining the Kingdom of God and the Kingdom of Man into one cohesive holistic society.

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Cool.
So either one of those guys suggest military takeover with killing, etc.

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You're not interested in having a serious conversation.

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dermdoc said:

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Joe Boudain said:

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dermdoc said:

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Joe Boudain said:

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dermdoc said:

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Joe Boudain said:

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dermdoc said:

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Joe Boudain said:

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dermdoc said:

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Joe Boudain said:

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dermdoc said:

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Joe Boudain said:

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dermdoc said:

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Joe Boudain said:

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PacifistAg said:

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dermdoc said:

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Joe Boudain said:

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dermdoc said:

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Joe Boudain said:

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dermdoc said:

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Joe Boudain said:

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dermdoc said:

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Joe Boudain said:

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PacifistAg said:

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dermdoc said:

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Matthew 5:39

But I tell you, do not resist an evil person, if anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek.

How does that fit with your "theology"?

---

Just as I thought. Matthew 5:39 is totally hyperbole, but Jesus really meant we should tie a millstone around people's neck and throw them in the sea.

---

Yes, sins against children are more serious than sins against others, which is why christ singles out children and not adults. Also why the church allows the death penalty in extreme cases and not abortion.

---

Can you give me Scriptural references for a Christ led earthly military kingdom?

Thanks.

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His kingdom was not of this world as he says explicitly during his Passion. Instead of extremely vague searching questions, cut to the point. What are you trying to prove?

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My point is Christ never advocated the things you are advocating in your op.

So you are an antichrist by definition.

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Did Christ advocate for throwing abortionists in prison? Am I an antichrist for that as well?

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I am pro life. What does that have to do with establishing a Taliban theocracy?

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Hold up a second, isn't that what you told me? Christ didn't advocate for what I was advocating for? Am I an antichrist for wanting to criminalize abortion?

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All I know is Christ never asked government to do anything.

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Yep. I wouldn't be surprised if he's opposed to social welfare programs for, say, the homeless and hungry because "that's not government's job. It's the church's", yet when it gives him a chance to kill or imprison those he deems immoral, then all of a sudden it's "yay government!"

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You would be wrong. I support government programs and think they should do more social engineering, again like Hungary

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Scriptures about "social engineering"?

You really are an antichrist.

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Jews? Soldiers? Are you going to answer any of my questions? Are the Jews antichrists?

You know social engineering like paid maternal leave, down payment assistance for housing, job training, those terrible things

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So no Scripture?

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This is not how an educated person discusses something. Asking question after question and refusing to answer anything.

What is your claim? That everything not explicitly covered in scripture is antichrist?

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No I have given Scripture supporting my view. Where is yours?

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My views are based on the teachings of the Holy Catholic Church, the body of Christ charged with shepherding the earthly flock until the 2nd coming.

Plus I even provided you Scripture in my rebuttal to your hyperbolic interpretation of scripture and Pacifist's confirmation bias regarding pacifism.

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Okay. Where does the Catholic Church advocate using force, like the Taliban, to enforce their views?

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Many places, but first and most widely respected by all flavor of Christians is Augustinian Contra Faustum Manicheam, St. Thomas Aquinas goes much further into depth but many Protestants don't honor him.

You should also narrow your query to the New Testament as old Testament law is chock full of violence and death penalties for all number of sins

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So Augustine and Aquinas advocated a Catholic theocracy?

How is that Biblical?

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Aquinas literally was born in the Catholic Kingdom of Sicily and died in the Papal State, the precursor to the Vatican. St.Augustine's most famous literary work City of God, is a treatise on combining the Kingdom of God and the Kingdom of Man into one cohesive holistic society.

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Cool.
So either one of those guys suggest military takeover with killing, etc.

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You're not interested in having a serious conversation.

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Sure I am. Where is your Scripture?

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Matthew 5:39

But I tell you, do not resist an evil person, if anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek.

How does that fit with your "theology"?

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Just as I thought. Matthew 5:39 is totally hyperbole, but Jesus really meant we should tie a millstone around people's neck and throw them in the sea.

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Yes, sins against children are more serious than sins against others, which is why christ singles out children and not adults. Also why the church allows the death penalty in extreme cases and not abortion.

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Can you give me Scriptural references for a Christ led earthly military kingdom?

Thanks.

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His kingdom was not of this world as he says explicitly during his Passion. Instead of extremely vague searching questions, cut to the point. What are you trying to prove?

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My point is Christ never advocated the things you are advocating in your op.

So you are an antichrist by definition.

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Did Christ advocate for throwing abortionists in prison? Am I an antichrist for that as well?

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I am pro life. What does that have to do with establishing a Taliban theocracy?

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Hold up a second, isn't that what you told me? Christ didn't advocate for what I was advocating for? Am I an antichrist for wanting to criminalize abortion?

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All I know is Christ never asked government to do anything.

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Yep. I wouldn't be surprised if he's opposed to social welfare programs for, say, the homeless and hungry because "that's not government's job. It's the church's", yet when it gives him a chance to kill or imprison those he deems immoral, then all of a sudden it's "yay government!"

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You would be wrong. I support government programs and think they should do more social engineering, again like Hungary

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Scriptures about "social engineering"?

You really are an antichrist.

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Jews? Soldiers? Are you going to answer any of my questions? Are the Jews antichrists?

You know social engineering like paid maternal leave, down payment assistance for housing, job training, those terrible things

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So no Scripture?

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This is not how an educated person discusses something. Asking question after question and refusing to answer anything.

What is your claim? That everything not explicitly covered in scripture is antichrist?

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No I have given Scripture supporting my view. Where is yours?

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My views are based on the teachings of the Holy Catholic Church, the body of Christ charged with shepherding the earthly flock until the 2nd coming.

Plus I even provided you Scripture in my rebuttal to your hyperbolic interpretation of scripture and Pacifist's confirmation bias regarding pacifism.

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Okay. Where does the Catholic Church advocate using force, like the Taliban, to enforce their views?

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Many places, but first and most widely respected by all flavor of Christians is Augustinian Contra Faustum Manicheam, St. Thomas Aquinas goes much further into depth but many Protestants don't honor him.

You should also narrow your query to the New Testament as old Testament law is chock full of violence and death penalties for all number of sins

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So Augustine and Aquinas advocated a Catholic theocracy?

How is that Biblical?

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Aquinas literally was born in the Catholic Kingdom of Sicily and died in the Papal State, the precursor to the Vatican. St.Augustine's most famous literary work City of God, is a treatise on combining the Kingdom of God and the Kingdom of Man into one cohesive holistic society.

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Cool.
So either one of those guys suggest military takeover with killing, etc.

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You're not interested in having a serious conversation.

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Sure I am. Where is your Scripture?

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I'll let you have the last word doc. You keep changing what you're asking for and not answering my questions other than posting links, which any child can do.

I want you to explain to me why I'm an antichrist, and soldiers and jews aren't.

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Looneyville I tells ya...

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when you lose spyderman....

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Joe,

I think over the past 5 pages you've revealed that you believe 'good' comes from a top down government approach. This is in direct conflict with what Jesus teaches. Where its about love and forgiveness at an individual level that gains societal momentum from the ground up.

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Dismisses early church fathers. Here, look at this quote from someone 1900 years later.

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Let every soul be subject to higher powers: for there is no power but from God: and those that are, are ordained of God. Therefore he that resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God. And they that resist, purchase to themselves damnation. For princes are not a terror to the good work, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power. Do that which is good: and thou shalt have praise from the same. For he is God's minister to thee, for good. But if thou do that which is evil, fear: for he beareth not the sword in vain. For he is God's minister: an avenger to execute wrath upon him that doth evil. Wherefore be subject of necessity, not only for wrath, but also for conscience' sake.

For therefore also you pay tribute. For they are the ministers of God, serving unto this purpose. Render therefore to all men their dues. Tribute, to whom tribute is due: custom, to whom custom: fear, to whom fear: honour, to whom honour.

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Can it really be bustup if he hasn't mentioned George Lemaitre?

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And a misunderstanding of Romans 13! With yesterday's hilarious Luke 22:36 and millstone references, this is such a wonderful trifecta!

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