Is Nolan making a parody comedy?

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The only reason you could possibly be so pissy about it is if you cannot stand the existence of transgender people in society

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So stating something that is factual somehow means "cannot stand the existence of ..." something.

Got it.

Go ahead and harp on F16 or whatever boogeyman you believe sleeps under your bed; those of use who live in the real world will go right on with viewing the world through known science.

Sapper Redux said:

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Cinco Ranch Aggie said:

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The only reason you could possibly be so pissy about it is if you cannot stand the existence of transgender people in society

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So stating something that is factual somehow means "cannot stand the existence of ..." something.

Got it.

Go ahead and harp on F16 or whatever boogeyman you believe sleeps under your bed; those of use who live in the real world will go right on with viewing the world through known science.

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"Stating something is factual…" What does Eliot Page's gender status have to do with the film?

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Ellen Page's gender <> gender of character she is apparently portraying.

Since it seems to have been lost on you, the something factual statement refers to the fact that no human being can change their gender simply by stating that they are actually the other gender, or by cutting off the parts that define said gender.

GoAgs92 said:

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Matt Damon is a bona fide movie star but him playing Odysseus seems like the "safe" but not good choice.

Too familiar with the source material to want to see it done again.

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I agree with this. Regardless of "giving Nolan the benefit of the doubt," there are some head scratchers and likely HUGE misfires on the casting for this movie. I honestly don't feel that Damon fits this role at all on the surface, but perhaps he may surprise. Based on his acting work history though, which I've always liked, this is a very poor fit on the whole. The Ellen Page (and yes, she is a SHE regardless of what a few people's imaginations and strangely militant level of desire want to tell themselves while desperately pounding their chest and shoving it down everyone else's throat) is downright laughable. I seriously can't see a path where it's not a horrific choice for one of the greatest masculine heroes in literature. I liked her in her previously roles before she decided to play make believe with her pronouns and genitals, but there is literally no explanation that fits with her playing Achilles. Don't much like zendaya either, but I'm not a fan of hers regardless, so that gets a pass for me. I feel like there are a couple other head scratchers too, but in general the big ones really put this movie at a pretty poor starting point in the minds of many people. I sure hope that Nolan lives up to the benefit of the doubt label, because right now there is well earned skepticism across the board.

You guys remember when everyone hated Heath Ledger as joker...

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You guys remember when everyone hated Heath Ledger as joker...

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People were a little confused and skeptical, but equating these scenarios is forced at best, silly at worst. They are not even close to similar circumstances. One is a male playing a male character that requires pretty much just charisma and good acting, the other is a petite female playing one of the most masculine and bad ass characters in all of literature. One can fit in the overall mold of the character with great acting, which he accomplished brilliantly; the other will never fit, regardless of how talented the directing and writing might be to make up for her shortcomings as a mythical male figure who defined masculinity, and who is supposed to be bigger than life. She just doesnt have the acting chops for this, nor the *****.