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Appreciate the response. I think those numbers are definitely in reach.TCTTS said:A is A said:What do you classify as massive success?TCTTS said:
The "dominant ethnicity." Have you ever been capable of screening anything you type before hitting post?
Also, The Little Mermaid trailer earned 104 million views in its first 48 hours online…Quote:
… above those of all recent Disney live-action titles, including "Cruella" (68 million views), "Beauty and the Beast" (94 million views), "Alladin" (74 million views) and "Maleficent 2" (62 million views). Worldwide views are compiled from YouTube, Twitter, Snapchat, TikTok and Instagram."
So, I'm sorry that it's likely going to be massive success, just like Ukrain's war effort. I know both will irk you in equal measure.
You're in the business. Give us your criteria for that threshold to be reached. Would love to re-visit this thread.
What are the numbers you think it has to reach both US and Globally?
All theatrically released Disney live-action remakes...
DOMESTIC OPENING WEEKEND
$191.8M = The Lion King (2019)
$174.8M = Beauty and the Beast (2017)
$116.1M = Alice in Wonderland (2010)
$103.3M = The Jungle Book (2016)
$091.5M = Aladdin (2019)
$069.4M = Maleficent (2014)
$067.9M = Cinderella (2015)
$045.9M = Dumbo (2019)
$036.9M = Maleficent: Mistress of Evil (2019)
$026.8M = Alice Through the Looking Glass (2016)
$024.6M = Christopher Robin (2018)
$021.5M = Cruella (2021)
WORLDWIDE TOTAL
$1.65B = The Lion King (2019)
$1.27B = Beauty and the Beast (2017)
$1.04B = Aladdin (2019)
$1.02B = Alice in Wonderland (2010)
$953M = The Jungle Book (2016)
$758M = Maleficent (2014)
$542M = Cinderella (2015)
$498M = Maleficent: Mistress of Evil (2019)
$353M = Dumbo (2019)
$276M = Alice Through the Looking Glass (2016)
$226M = Cruella (2021)
$197M = Christopher Robin (2018)
Given those numbers, I'd say The Little Mermaid - releasing Memorial Day Weekend - definitely performs above Maleficent ($69.4M), but below Beauty and the Beast ($174.8M), coming in somewhere around $90M-$110M opening weekend. And then performs above Maleficent ($758M), but below Aladdin ($1.04B), coming in somewhere around $800M-$1B worldwide. Resulting in a "massive success" either way. Of course, it also has the potential to blow any of those numbers out of the water (no pun intended).
Know Your Enemy said:I'm guessing you don't have many in your life to ask how they feel.Teslag said:
I'm wiling to bet a large number of blacks roll their eyes at this **** too. But nice job lumping and stereotyping an entire race of people into victim culture.
You mean black people.Know Your Enemy said:
So through work you interact with a lot of non-white people? Yeah, exactly what I figured. Carry on.
Know Your Enemy said:
So through work you interact with a lot of non-white people? Yeah, exactly what I figured. Carry on.
There was literally a whole thing last month about James Franco being cast as Castro and John Leguizamo talking about Latino representation. And Ke Huy Quan has been very vocal about his ability to get roles beyond the token Asian, and how Crazy Rich Asians inspired him to return to acting in Everything Everywhere All at Once.DallasTeleAg said:You mean black people.Know Your Enemy said:
So through work you interact with a lot of non-white people? Yeah, exactly what I figured. Carry on.
Again... I don't see anyone hammering for more Latino representation. I also don't seem to get that feeling from Asians, either.
It's just silly. I'm sure the majority of us who post about it are just laughing and shaking our heads.
Shang Chi too.bluefire579 said:There was literally a whole thing last month about James Franco being cast as Castro and John Leguizamo talking about Latino representation. And Ke Huy Quan has been very vocal about his ability to get roles beyond the token Asian, and how Crazy Rich Asians inspired him to return to acting in Everything Everywhere All at Once.DallasTeleAg said:You mean black people.Know Your Enemy said:
So through work you interact with a lot of non-white people? Yeah, exactly what I figured. Carry on.
Again... I don't see anyone hammering for more Latino representation. I also don't seem to get that feeling from Asians, either.
It's just silly. I'm sure the majority of us who post about it are just laughing and shaking our heads.
Those are just the most recent instances, but conversations certainly happen around their representation.
I am personally very upset that a live action remake of a *******ized adaptation of a 150 year old fairytale about a mermaid set in a fantasy kingdom with a talking Jamaican crab friend is not adhering to the exact specifications of the original.TCTTS said:
I just can't get over how dumb and embarrassing this whole thing is…People are mad that The Little Mermaid is Black? The lady who is also a fish? Who lives under the sea? Whose best friend is a talking crab?
— Lynda Carter (@RealLyndaCarter) September 13, 2022
I imagine that seemed a little on the nose given her longing to be with the Prince.nai06 said:
The originalist crew always seems fixated on the skin color of the Little Mermaid but there is never a peep about anything else that deviates from the source material
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-The little mermaid is suppose to experience intense pain during her transformation, as though a double edged sword cut her in two
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TCTTS said:
All excellent points, and very well said.
Btw, I noticed you taking all of this up in the F16 thread on the same topic. What an absolute sh*t show, but props for wading through/challenging all that garbage.
The thread took a swarthy turn pretty quickly. Does that count?Duncan Idaho said:
I haven't read through that thread but has Zwarte Piet come up? I mean we are talking about black characters and dutch source material
TCTTS said:
Carnies sh*tting on your porch will do that to you.
That's TCTTS's first response to any viewpoint he disagrees with. The poster is obviously an evil F16 poster. It's a standard way to try and just delegitimize the person and their opinions. Because, obviously every opinion he holds is right and righteous. Everyone else is a crazy, redneck idiot.Teslag said:
Do you see f16 posters behind every dark shadow? Jeez dude
DallasTeleAg said:That's TCTTS's first response to any viewpoint he disagrees with. The poster is obviously an evil F16 poster. It's a standard way to try and just delegitimize the person and their opinions. Because, obviously every opinion he holds is right and righteous. Everyone else is a crazy, redneck idiot.Teslag said:
Do you see f16 posters behind every dark shadow? Jeez dude
Change Hilary to Guiliani, the "AR15s being fired into the sky" to "rats in the streets," and "Let's Go Brandon" to OWS or some Shepard Fairey design, and you basically have replicated my time in NYC. Damn I ****ing miss that place. At least was entertaining.TCTTS said:
It's like we live down the street from a carnival or a really poorly run state hospital. And there's not only constantly something to gawk at, but carnies or mental patients are always escaping and wondering into our yards, barking gibberish and sh*tting on our porches. All the while, there are one or two neighbors who are like, "Why are you so obsessed?!" And I'm standing in my driveway, incredulous, going, "How can you not be?!" As, like, a scene from Idiocracy plays out down the street… fireworks going off in every direction… AR15s being fired into the sky… crazy people in face paint angrily ranting about Hilary, civil war, groomers, and "the gays"… old men in matching "Let's Go Brandon" t-shirts picketing around a makeshift black mermaid manikin… you name it, if a hate-filled grievance can be expressed, in the most insanely comical, cliche way possible, it's happening. It's just pure, unhinged pandemonium, yet *I'm* the weirdo for going, "Are you guys seeing this?"
TCTTS said:
Yep, you got it. That's not a vast over generalization at all. Especially when I've said at least 400 times on here that I don't disagree with a lot of opinions posted over there, rather it's the manner in which they're delivered. That, and as much as I'm apparently obsessed with them, you're still clearly obsessed with me, so let's call it even.
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It's like we live down the street from a carnival or a really poorly run state hospital. And there's not only constantly something to gawk at, but carnies or mental patients are always escaping and wondering into our yards, barking gibberish and sh*tting on our porches. All the while, there are one or two neighbors who are like, "Why are you so obsessed?!" And I'm standing in my driveway, incredulous, going, "How can you not be?!" As, like, a scene from Idiocracy plays out down the street… fireworks going off in every direction… AR15s being fired into the sky… crazy people in face paint angrily ranting about Hilary, civil war, groomers, and "the gays"… old men in matching "Let's Go Brandon" t-shirts picketing around a makeshift black mermaid manikin… you name it, if a hate-filled grievance can be expressed, in the most insanely comical, cliche way possible, it's happening. It's just pure, unhinged pandemonium, yet *I'm* the weirdo for going, "Are you guys seeing this?"
I think Zwarte Piet is more of a Netherlands thing. Hans Christian Anderson was from DenmarkDuncan Idaho said:
I haven't read through that thread but has Zwarte Piet come up? I mean we are talking about black characters and dutch source material
They all look the same over there.nai06 said:I think Zwarte Piet is more of a Netherlands thing. Hans Christian Anderson was from DenmarkDuncan Idaho said:
I haven't read through that thread but has Zwarte Piet come up? I mean we are talking about black characters and dutch source material
Claude! said:They all look the same over there.nai06 said:I think Zwarte Piet is more of a Netherlands thing. Hans Christian Anderson was from DenmarkDuncan Idaho said:
I haven't read through that thread but has Zwarte Piet come up? I mean we are talking about black characters and dutch source material
Except for Zwarte Piet, I guess. He kind of sticks out.