*** Disney's The Little Mermaid (Live Action Remake) ***

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Aside from the pathetic fact of grown men complaining about the casting of a mermaid in a children's Disney movie...

I bet many of the people who have an issue with this casting based on the actress being black (and knowing nothing about her acting and singing abilities) also say things in political arguments like: "I don't see color" or "it should be based on merit, not skin color"

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TCTTS said:

In all seriousness... do you truly believe that a global corporation the size of Disney made this decision in order to force-feed "SJW BLM nonsense"? Please take a look at all of the political non-sense that is going on in this country. Yeah, I can see businesses making business decisions based on garbage like what color someone's skin is, or who they like to diddle, because it is all over our society. What sense does that even make? It makes ZERO sense. Like, I don't even understand how a sane individual can believe that a company as massive as Disney would even be in the business of pushing something like that?

Instead, maybe... just maybe... Disney ran the numbers and came to the conclusion that it makes the most financial sense; that the lunatics they'd lose in a decision like this would be far outweighed by the black audience they'd gain in return. Lunatics? Name-calling much?

It's just mind-boggling how desperately people like you want certain corporations and "Hollywood" at large to fit into this box you've made in order to so righteously and neatly rail against. It's a business. And this was a business decision. Plain and simple. Turn that argument toward the various groups coming out and calling for boycots of XYZ companies until said companies tow the liberal line (see razor company, fast food chicken company, etc)

Also, where were all of these outcries in 1989 when Disney made a red-haired, English-speaking character out of the 1837 Danish original? Tell me, how many Danish people are black? Why would there need to be any outrage over a nation that is predominantly white? Were you this up in arms the first time Disney didn't stay true to the original? What values was Disney "force-feeding" when they changed the character then? Or, you know... maybe they wanted the maximum possible audience, same as they do now, so they changed the character in order to maximize their profit, same as they're doing this time as well.

This is all just so incredibly dumb. You're not only complaining about the skin color a FICTIONAL, CARTOON MERMAID who was ALREADY "appropriated" in 1989, you're actually choosing to believe that a global corporation is making this decision in order to teach their audience a lesson instead of actually making this decision to make more money. How many people actually have a copy of that original work on their bookshelves? Quite likely not very many. But many, many people's first introduction to the story was the 1989 animated movie, which features a white skinned mermaid with bright red hair and a great singing voice.

You may call me a lunatic, fine, whatever. But the fact is that the little mermaid as the vast majority of people in this world know her is that red-headed mermaid with white skin. If Disney wants to make a movie about a black mermaid, that's fine, but she's not the little mermaid. She's a different mermaid. Call the movie something else. And for those of us who have been to a Disney park and had photographs of our daughters taken with Ariel, what are they going to do with all of that once this new movie comes out? Did they just open up new opportunities for black ladies in the Orlando area to be able to take on the Ariel role? Are they going to tell the white gals who have been dressing up as Ariel in their parks to take a hike?
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This is such a non story in the real world. No one ****ing cares
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Sex Panther said:

This is such a non story in the real world. No one ****ing cares


I thought all the "uproar" was fake news. Had no idea there were people like BenFiasco that were actually bothered by this.

He's going to be really pissed when he finds about Anthony Hopkins playing Zorro
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BMX Bandit said:

Sex Panther said:

This is such a non story in the real world. No one ****ing cares


I thought all the "uproar" was fake news. Had no idea there were people like BenFiasco that were actually bothered by this.

He's going to be really pissed when he finds about Anthony Hopkins playing Zorro
if you read Twitter, at least 98 percent is people b&&&&&&& about people complaining. Fake new for the most part. Would not have trended if not for that.

Personally, I prefer the characters resemble the original movie, but it's not a big deal to me. No doubt Disney is seeing dollar signs with the chance to sell Black Ariel dolls and people going to the movie simply because of the race switch of Ariel. But again, whatever.
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Danes are real white people. Scots and Irish aren't. Hth
Cinco Ranch Aggie
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Scot is in my ancestry. Gee, I just found out that I'm not a true white.
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You should be grateful. At least you wont be under constant attack by sjw's anymore. Some of us aren't so lucky.

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Literally no one said anything about race, re: the Danish argument.
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TCTTS said:

Literally no one said anything about race, re: the Danish argument.
Seriously?

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Also, where were all of these outcries in 1989 when Disney made a red-haired, English-speaking character out of the 1837 Danish original?
Does Denmark have a sizable percentage of its population that is not white?
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Quote:

Does Denmark have a sizable percentage of its population that is not white?


No, but only 4% of the population is redhead and the official language is still Danish. I think the point is that people only seem to care now because of skin color, whether they'll be honest with themselves about that or not. No one cared about appropriating the fairy tale for commercialism until now. Wonder why?
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littlebitofhifi said:

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Does Denmark have a sizable percentage of its population that is not white?


No, but only 4% of the population is redhead and the official language is still Danish. I think the point is that people only seem to care now because of skin color, whether they'll be honest with themselves about that or not. No one cared about appropriating the fairy tale for commercialism until now. Wonder why?


Because we dont speak Danish.
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I haven't seen a live action Disney film in a theater yet. I don't think this one will break that streak. They just don't appeal to me at all.
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Sine poena nulla lex.
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C@LAg said:

Hagen95 said:

I haven't seen a live action Disney film in a theater yet.
did you see star wars?
avengers?
those were all live action Disney movies.

YOU ARE A LIAR!!!!!!!!
Or the Cat from Outer Space
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TCTTS said:

In all seriousness... do you truly believe that a global corporation the size of Disney made this decision in order to force-feed "SJW BLM nonsense"? What sense does that even make? Like, I don't even understand how a sane individual can believe that a company as massive as Disney would even be in the business of pushing something like that?

Instead, maybe... just maybe... Disney ran the numbers and came to the conclusion that it makes the most financial sense; that the lunatics they'd lose in a decision like this would be far outweighed by the black audience they'd gain in return.

It's just mind-boggling how desperately people like you want certain corporations and "Hollywood" at large to fit into this box you've made in order to so righteously and neatly rail against. It's a business. And this was a business decision. Plain and simple.

Also, where were all of these outcries in 1989 when Disney made a red-haired, English-speaking character out of the 1837 Danish original? Were you this up in arms the first time Disney didn't stay true to the original? What values was Disney "force-feeding" when they changed the character then? Or, you know... maybe they wanted the maximum possible audience, same as they do now, so they changed the character in order to maximize their profit, same as they're doing this time as well.

This is all just so incredibly dumb. You're not only complaining about the skin color a FICTIONAL, CARTOON MERMAID who was ALREADY "appropriated" in 1989, you're actually choosing to believe that a global corporation is making this decision in order to teach their audience a lesson instead of actually making this decision to make more money.


Incredibly naive to think global corporations and politicians do not attempt to steer social issues. You're also essentially accusing Disney of racism for profit.

Personally don't care about this one, but entertainment board czar butthurt confirmed.
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claym711 said:

TCTTS said:

In all seriousness... do you truly believe that a global corporation the size of Disney made this decision in order to force-feed "SJW BLM nonsense"? What sense does that even make? Like, I don't even understand how a sane individual can believe that a company as massive as Disney would even be in the business of pushing something like that?

Instead, maybe... just maybe... Disney ran the numbers and came to the conclusion that it makes the most financial sense; that the lunatics they'd lose in a decision like this would be far outweighed by the black audience they'd gain in return.

It's just mind-boggling how desperately people like you want certain corporations and "Hollywood" at large to fit into this box you've made in order to so righteously and neatly rail against. It's a business. And this was a business decision. Plain and simple.

Also, where were all of these outcries in 1989 when Disney made a red-haired, English-speaking character out of the 1837 Danish original? Were you this up in arms the first time Disney didn't stay true to the original? What values was Disney "force-feeding" when they changed the character then? Or, you know... maybe they wanted the maximum possible audience, same as they do now, so they changed the character in order to maximize their profit, same as they're doing this time as well.

This is all just so incredibly dumb. You're not only complaining about the skin color a FICTIONAL, CARTOON MERMAID who was ALREADY "appropriated" in 1989, you're actually choosing to believe that a global corporation is making this decision in order to teach their audience a lesson instead of actually making this decision to make more money.


Incredibly naive to think global corporations and politicians do not attempt to steer social issues. You're also essentially accusing Disney of racism for profit.

Personally don't care about this one, but entertainment board czar butthurt confirmed.



A major corporation just did this the other day, when Nike pulled their American flag shoes. Does it make sense? No, but to think it isn't happening, you have to have your head in the sand.

As a 36 year old man, I don't really care who they cast, but I would think it would make sense to have a girl that somewhat resembles the animated version based on the tons of money they have spent on merchandising over the past 30 years on a red headed Ariel.
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Because Nike's sales increased 31% after they aired Kaepernick's initial/controversial ad way back when. They didn't want to upset their golden goose. Right or wrong (I personally think Kaepernick complaining about the Betsy Ross flag is asinine), you're kidding yourselves if you don't think that the issue ultimately had to do with stock prices or their bottom line.
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claym711 said:

TCTTS said:

In all seriousness... do you truly believe that a global corporation the size of Disney made this decision in order to force-feed "SJW BLM nonsense"? What sense does that even make? Like, I don't even understand how a sane individual can believe that a company as massive as Disney would even be in the business of pushing something like that?

Instead, maybe... just maybe... Disney ran the numbers and came to the conclusion that it makes the most financial sense; that the lunatics they'd lose in a decision like this would be far outweighed by the black audience they'd gain in return.

It's just mind-boggling how desperately people like you want certain corporations and "Hollywood" at large to fit into this box you've made in order to so righteously and neatly rail against. It's a business. And this was a business decision. Plain and simple.

Also, where were all of these outcries in 1989 when Disney made a red-haired, English-speaking character out of the 1837 Danish original? Were you this up in arms the first time Disney didn't stay true to the original? What values was Disney "force-feeding" when they changed the character then? Or, you know... maybe they wanted the maximum possible audience, same as they do now, so they changed the character in order to maximize their profit, same as they're doing this time as well.

This is all just so incredibly dumb. You're not only complaining about the skin color a FICTIONAL, CARTOON MERMAID who was ALREADY "appropriated" in 1989, you're actually choosing to believe that a global corporation is making this decision in order to teach their audience a lesson instead of actually making this decision to make more money.


Incredibly naive to think global corporations and politicians do not attempt to steer social issues. You're also essentially accusing Disney of racism for profit.

Personally don't care about this one, but entertainment board czar butthurt confirmed.

Casting a black woman in the lead "for profit" is no different than casting with the hopes to pull in any other additional audience "for profit." Such a ridiculous sentiment.
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You claimed a company hired someone because they believe their skin color would lead to superior profit, and you're good with that.

Let that sink in.
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There's folks on both sides here doing a half gainer off the diving board without noticing the pool's been drained.

This is going to be Ghostbusters 2.0 if this keeps up....
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The polarization of America. Thank you social media.
TCTTS
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Where did I say I was good with that? Please quote the exact sentence. I was merely explaining that it was a BUSINESS decision, not a SJW decision.
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I just checked her wiki page and now I am even more confused by this "controversy". According to Wikipedia she is white with a black father. So this seems like a great compromise.
Hagen95
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Why not both?
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What an abortion of a thread started over some liberal petty ****.

Good lord, even Texags is turning fruity and snowy. (Besides general board)
Duncan Idaho
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Completely agree. Posters getting worked up about a white woman playing a mermaid in a live action is silly
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*eye roll*

Casting for demographics. It is done all the time and isn't something to get upset about, unless you are faux news acolyte who must always find something that bothers them (but in no way impacts them) while casting themselves as a victim in the process.

Did it seem to you that John wick especially appealed to males age 18-35? Or that Tyler perry's movies specifically appeal to African-Americans? They do, because they have a target audience.

Disney knows that the people who would get upset about something so silly are outweighed by the number of people who want to see an African American princess in a major role.
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Stop Forum 16ing the Entertainment Board!
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Oh no.. my fragile nostalgia has its feelings hurt..

I thought the choice was weird (thought they'd go with a big name), but not opposed to it. It's a movie. Lighten up.
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Is she going to have red hair? This is important to me.
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Not that anyone cares, but I think 2 points made by previous posters are valid.

1) why cast a familiar role with someone who looks completely different instead of create an original character and use this actress? Imo it's pushing diversity just to say "look how much diversity we have."

2) double dipping on merchandise? Or eliminating the original merchandise? Which version will show up in Ariel's grotto in Disney World, now?

It truly makes no sense to me.
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Luke Smith
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Here's a real life example.

My daughter was excited that the little mermaid was going to be re-made because that is her favorite Disney movie. She is a cute little redhead but when we showed her who was going to play Ariel, she asked "why does she not have red hair? Is it because people really do think redheads are ugly?"

She's been teased at school for her raid hair before. So it hurt hearing her ask that.
 
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