*** THE BATMAN ***

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Crossed the half billion mark

https://www.thewrap.com/the-batman-crosses-500-million-global-box-office/
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This just popped up in my YouTube feed... holy hell, yes!

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Just rewatched Batman Begins with my wife tonight, who had never seen it, and man… we both thought that was a better movie than The Batman.

Stronger cast, better story & character development, wife even preferred the action in Batman Begins and how it better captured the experience of the scared criminals Batman was hunting.

Now that we're coming up on a year after The Batman's release (March 4), I'm curious how folks feel it stacks up to Batman Begins. Do folks mostly prefer The Batman? Or Batman Begins?
Thanks and gig'em
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I'm a big Batman Begins fan, and full believer that it's one of the best-written modern blockbusters when it comes to theme. If I could point to *one* blockbuster as the perfect example of how to weave theme (in this case, fear) throughout each and every scene/character, in expert fashion, it would be this one. I love this movie, and how it takes a lost man from Bruce to Batman, beautifully setting up a sequel via one of my all time favorite final scenes (Gordon giving Batman the Joker card).

That said… I've probably watched The Batman at least six times in the past year, if not more, and have sought out certain sequences north of twenty times. I don't know what it is, but this movie reaches deep down in my soul in a way few blockbusters have. That's partly due to it featuring some of the best cinematography I've seen in any blockbuster, along with the amazing score, which might actually beat out Zimmer's for me (something I never thought possible), and then the story itself, which I appreciate and fall in love with more and more each time I watch it. There's just so much care and empathy that goes into the storytelling/characterizations, and I also really dig how Reeves manages to make an entire movie not out of Bruce becoming Batman, but Bruce becoming the Bruce Wayne he needs to be.

Honestly, asking me to pick one is like making someone choose a favorite kid. Gun to my head, though, I'd go with The Batman. But more than anything I love that *both* of these movies exist, and can be appreciated/watched, depending on my mood/preference, seeing as they compliment each other in really awesome ways.
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I have a shelf dedicated to Batman graphic novels, I've played all the Arkham games, I grew up on the animated series and the Tim Burton movies, I'm currently wearing Batman boxer briefs, socks, and pj bottoms. I like Batman as a comic book character. While the Nolan films were terrific movies, I'd never wondered "what would Batman be like in the real world?" Because of this I don't find the Nolan trilogy to be very rewatchable, as great as they are as movies. I saw The Batman twice in theaters and once at home, and I'm probably due for another rewatch soon. Not saying it is a better movie, although I do think The Batman was very well made. I do prefer it as a Batman movie to the Nolan ones
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TCTTS and I agree on something.

Everyone disagreeing must obviously be wrong.
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The Batman is like porn for lovers of noir thrillers and cinematography. Saw it twice (or thrice) in the theater and need to give it a rewatch soon. It's a damn good movie.
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Brian Earl Spilner said:

The Batman is like porn for lovers of noir thrillers and cinematography. Saw it twice (or thrice) in the theater and need to give it a rewatch soon. It's a damn good movie.
I agree. I love that genre, which is one of the biggest reasons for my enjoyment. Batman Begins is fantastic, but just so different, tonally. Really comes down to personal preference on genres.
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Speaking of thrillers, if you like The Batman, I urge you to watch the movie Prisoners if you haven't. (Currently on Netflix.)

There's not a whole lot of connective tissue with The Batman other than Paul Dano acting his ass off playing an incredibly disturbed individual, and the fact that it's a mystery thriller, but they have very similar vibes. Underrated gem.
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I think if you were to post screenshots of the top 50 scenes from both movies based on simply how thematic and, for lack of a better word, beautiful they are that at least 80% of those top 50 would be from The Batman.
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I agree, The Batman just looks a lot more interesting to me than the TDK trilogy. Obviously Nolan movies are always shot fantastically well, but the real-world aesthetic just isn't as interesting to me for Batman as what Reeves and even Burton did.

I'm a sucker for that pulpy, comic-y and noir feel.
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Ok, finally watched it. Enjoyed it, but why was it so freaking dark??

Not the subject matter. It was like Helsinki in December. Every scene: dark. Majority of scenes: rainy. Police tearing apart Riddler's apartment? Turn on the dang lights!

Seriously, lighten up. My $0.02.
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Ol Jock 99 said:

Ok, finally watched it. Enjoyed it, but why was it so freaking dark??

Not the subject matter. It was like Helsinki in December. Every scene: dark. Majority of scenes: rainy. Police tearing apart Riddler's apartment? Turn on the dang lights!

Seriously, lighten up. My $0.02.
Well, Batman is a character of the night.
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Fair, but you can be dark, brooding, and menacing with enough lighting for it to be enjoyable. See: Nolan Batmans (Batmen? Batmanians?)
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I 100% disagree with this take. I loved everything about the aesthetic they went for. It was dark but wonderfully shot and made everything we needed to see still pop on screen.

There are things to criticize about the movie... how it was shot is not one of them.
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Thats fine, cause it's like, your opinion man. And mine as well.

But Dune and Dune part 2 showed that you can be "dark" and still be able to see what the heck is going on.
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My point... The Batman was dark and I could still see everything that was going on. I never had an issue seeing anything on the screen.

Maybe don't watch the movie in a bright room?
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Finally got around to watching this and really really liked it. Along with WW, easily the best thing DC has put out since the dark knight days. I thought all the actors were great and loved the tone of it. Great villain and Pattinson was very solid. I liked that is was a Seven style detective movie.

It was a little long and I had some small issues here and there, but it was a great movie. Looking forward to checking out The Penguin and very much looking forward to the sequel.
 
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