That's kind of the writing version of the TexAgs bracketology I used to do on the hoops board. We used to compare pretty favorably to the people who do it for a living. I'd lay out the bracketing rules, and then have people rank teams and then I'd fill out the bracket based on the NCAA's slotting procedures. Actually worked pretty well.

That's awesome. One of these days...

All this talk of time travel, severed hands, secret bases. Palpatine.

Texags Star Wars posters are ruining my childhood.


WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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I need some creative geological expertise, and I feel like that'd be in high supply here.

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I took one geology class at A&M and I've seen Dante's Peak and Volcano a few times, I'm basically overqualified IMO.

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Bah!!!! If you haven't seen 2012 then you ain't got no Masters degree like me.

Oh I have also seen 2012. But you don't have a PhD like me unless you've seen The Core.

you win

Hmmm. Ian McDiarmid (Emperor) states that the laugh they used was an old one and not recorded recently. Also seems to be downplaying his role a bit starting at the 10 min mark



I'm leaning more to the side that Palpatine isn't 'alive' and will only appear as a disembodied voice or 'robot' form as previously suggested.

Are we thinking Lor San Tekka knew who Rey was and was basically her Obi-Wan?

Just wanted to put my take on the direction they could go with this skywalker name thing. What if we get more into the history of the Jedi/Sith and it is revealed the first force users, that some primitive groups called skywalkers, were a single group and single belief instead of the duality that is the Jedi and Sith. Maybe the Jedi/Sith was started by a disagreement or something within the original order. We have had hints of Kylo wanting to start over and do it better as well as Luke not being happy with the Jedi/Sith so movies seemed to be headed that way.

You could have a moment at the end where Kylo and Rey save the planet/resistance and some primitive kid asks if they are Jedi/Sith and the cumulative moment is they say no, we are skywalkers harking back to not only the name as related to Anakin and Luke but also to the original intent that the original force users had. This would full circle the evolution of force users and tie in with a new generation that gives rise to Skywalkers instead of Sith/Jedi.

*Obviously if there is cannon that contradicts what I am saying then forgive me*

Yeah I think that's exactly where it's headed. That's why I think "rise of Skywalker" references both an Anakin origin story to be filled out and some kind of new order to be continued forward.

I think we're going to learn more about the literal rise of Skywalker and see a rise in the legacy of the Skywalkers.

However, I don't think we're going to get any sort of ancient order of the Skywalkers or anything because that wouldn't make a lot of sense to me given what we already know about Shmi/Anakin.

Yeah, good call. Something along these lines sound about right. Instead of the coincidence of a modern, primitive group just so happening to name Rey a "Skywalker," a primitive group before even the Jedi and the Sith name Force users "Skywalkers." Rey and Kylo learn this, and when all is said and done, name themselves/their new order "Skywalkers," based on this knowledge. I dig that.

That said, personally, I don't think Kylo survives. I think it's solely Rey who leads the new order of Force users and gives them the name, thus - in a round about way - finally becoming a "Skywalker" herself.

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However, I don't think we're going to get any sort of ancient order of the Skywalkers or anything because that wouldn't make a lot of sense to me given what we already know about Shmi/Anakin.

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This is a good point as well, but I don't think it necessarily has to work out that way. My last name is Smith, but that doesn't mean I make a living by being a blacksmith. After thousands of years, "Skywalker" could just be nothing more than a name now, once the terms "Jedi" and "Sith" took over.

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So Rey does some heroic stuff in this one, and after the battle, a kid or someone asks her if she's a Skywalker like they've heard of in the stories, and she says yes. Thus 'Skywalker' becomes the term moving forward.

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This is a damn fine prediction.

I hear you, and that's probably the simplest/easiest answer. But at the same time, Rey lived a FAR more remote life than broom boy at end of TLJ. And yet, even Rey knew who Luke Skywalker was. So how would that kid - or someone like him - NOT know who Luke Skywalker was, enough to confuse the name "Skywalker" like that?

But Rey is a lot older than Broom boy. Like Luke Skywalker was a legend to Rey's generation, but maybe too far back for the current generation. Things fade from living memory pretty quickly.

I'm not saying it's perfect, but I think it makes more screen sense than somehow having them discover this ancient order that happened to have the same name has Anakin's mom.

But in my prediction this kid/person whoever sees (or hears about) Rey literally doing something that seems like sky walking, has heard of a person (or multiple people) named Skywalker, and thinks maybe Rey is one.

Yeah, I'm coming around on this. That said, Rey is only 19/20 in TFA/TLJ. She's not that much older than broom boy or someone his age (10 or so), but I guess I could buy it if it was someone even younger.

We also don't know what Rey actually knew about Luke. Even she says "I thought he was myth" when Finn first mentions him.

I think that the legend being passed around and people thinking "Skywalker" is a title, not a last name, is possible.

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Ha. I've got the perfect sketch-of-an-idea to test this with, too. Like a sci-fi Da Vinci code type thing. It would be so fun to start a thread and brainstorm, but I need to find the time to develop it just a bit more first.

That said, I do have another project I'm working on right now - a TV series - that has me somewhat stuck. I've got like 50% of the pilot figured out, and like 75% of "The Lore" that informs it. My business partners have weighed in a bit, and we've cracked it a little more, but I'm sure the TexAgs hive-mind could have it solved in a matter of days. Part of the problem is that I'm trying to finish a feature length screenplay simultaneously, and haven't been able to devote full brain power to the series, but it might actually be worth running it by TexAgs in the vaguest of terms in the next few days. I need some creative geological expertise, and I feel like that'd be in high supply here.

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Do I get to be included if I promise to keep my Uber right wing Hollywood conspiracies and my white supremacy in check?

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We also don't know what Rey actually knew about Luke. Even she says "I thought he was myth" when Finn first mentions him.

I think that the legend being passed around and people thinking "Skywalker" is a title, not a last name, is possible.

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You've convinced me. I'm on board.

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Ha. I've got the perfect sketch-of-an-idea to test this with, too. Like a sci-fi Da Vinci code type thing. It would be so fun to start a thread and brainstorm, but I need to find the time to develop it just a bit more first.

That said, I do have another project I'm working on right now - a TV series - that has me somewhat stuck. I've got like 50% of the pilot figured out, and like 75% of "The Lore" that informs it. My business partners have weighed in a bit, and we've cracked it a little more, but I'm sure the TexAgs hive-mind could have it solved in a matter of days. Part of the problem is that I'm trying to finish a feature length screenplay simultaneously, and haven't been able to devote full brain power to the series, but it might actually be worth running it by TexAgs in the vaguest of terms in the next few days. I need some creative geological expertise, and I feel like that'd be in high supply here.

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Do I get to be included if I promise to keep my Uber right wing Hollywood conspiracies and my white supremacy in check?

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As long as none of my ideas aren't misinterpreted as "liberal propaganda," any and all posters will be accepted.

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I don't see how it could be an ancient thing but somehow Shmi have the name. That seems like a huge retcon.

I'm envisioning something like this: Remember that kid at the end of The Last Jedi sharing the story of what happened on Crait to his friends? I'm imagining that story has gotten out throughout the galaxy, but like a game of telephone and because it's word of mouth and there weren't a lot of witnesses, some of the details have gotten lost.

So Rey does some heroic stuff in this one, and after the battle, a kid or someone asks her if she's a Skywalker like they've heard of in the stories, and she says yes. Thus 'Skywalker' becomes the term moving forward.

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This is perfect.

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