You've made the same joke about 10 times just this year alone.

Brian Earl Spilner said:

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You've made the same joke about 10 times just this year alone.

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Impossible, I've only been active on this site "Texags" since October, I'm quite new to this whole environment.

Take with a grain of salt, but according to a Reddit post, a now deleted tweet by Stephen Lang said the first trailer will premiere during the Super Bowl.

I've never seen a Super Bowl spot advertise a movie set to come out any later than the following July, so that would be highly unprecedented, ten months out. That, and it sounds like Disney is already spending a fortune on ads for Doctor Strange, Lightyear, and Moon Knight (and maybe/hopefully Obi-Wan as well). But who knows. It would be super cool and a welcomed surprise if they did. And I guess if any movie is worth jumpstarting a marketing campaign this early, during the Super Bowl, it's a sequel to the highest grossing movie of all time.

Agreed. And hey, TFA's first teaser was an entire 13 months before it released.

Brian Earl Spilner said:

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Word.

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It's not that was "good" and that we have since revised it into being bad. It was that we got suckered into seeing it because of the visuals (and 3D) that we couldn't get at home and realized the story was trash once in the theater. Yet we left the theater and told our friends "visuals were amazing" which suckered the next group into seeing it.

I said it sucked at the time and will continue to say it sucked. Because it does.

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Brian Earl Spilner said:

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Word.

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It's not that was "good" and that we have since revised it into being bad. It was that we got suckered into seeing it because of the visuals (and 3D) that we couldn't get at home and realized the story was trash once in the theater. Yet we left the theater and told our friends "visuals were amazing" which suckered the next group into seeing it.

I said it sucked at the time and will continue to say it sucked. Because it does.

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I agree. I said the same thing when it came out when asked about it. "Well the 3D effects/visuals were really cool"

At worst, Avatar is average. Is it derivative? No doubt. But its storytelling mechanics are incredibly sound, every major character gets a proper, well-written (if not predictable) arc, and its world-building is inarguably impressive. And this is all, of course, in addition to its groundbreaking effects. Again, I get it not being everyone's thing, and I agree that it was overhyped to the point of annoyance. But if you think it legitimately "sucked" you're either purposely trying to play the contrarian, enjoy piling on, or are really just angry at its messaging.

Came across this the other day. Honestly not sure why it was cut, as it sets up the sequel nicely.

If the people of Earth in Avatar are anything like the people of Earth now, the opening scene will be our best and brightest space pilots arriving at Pandora and nuking it to ash for daring to attack us while we were in the process of exploiting their culture and natural resources for our own gains.

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At worst, Avatar is average. Is it derivative? No doubt. But its storytelling mechanics are incredibly sound, every major character gets a proper, well-written (if not predictable) arc, and its world-building is inarguably impressive. And this is all, of course, in addition to its groundbreaking effects. Again, I get it not being everyone's thing, and I agree that it was overhyped to the point of annoyance. But if you think it legitimately "sucked" you're either purposely trying to play the contrarian, enjoy piling on, or are really just angry at its messaging.

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Story absolutely 100% sucked. Cliche, predictable, etc. Did the visual effects make the movie overall "average"? Not in my opinion. I have not seen it since, and can't even remember seeing it being broadcast on TV. Unlike the Star wars prequels, which are being broadcast all the time. And that's even when those objectively suck.

TNT and TBS showed Avatar every other week for like five years.

Then I stand corrected.

The story still sucked big-time. The special effects are great, but that does not make up for it enough to make it average (at best).

Story accounts for a lot. Avatar blows away the original Toy Story visual effects-wise, but Toy Story is 100X the movie that Avatar is. Special effects only take you so far.

Damn.

We have lost a very dear member of the #AvatarFamily, David Brenner, an editor extraordinaire on the Avatar sequels. Our hearts go out to his wife Amber and their children Annie, Haider and Sasha. His talent, compassion and friendship will be truly missed. pic.twitter.com/sXlV3mSX2l

— James Cameron (@JimCameron) February 18, 2022

Avatar maybe didn't suck but it is an incredibly boring movie without the groundbreaking effects of being in a theater. I cannot bring myself to even watch it a second time.

"I was speechless...I was moved to tears."

Zoe Saldana saw 20-minutes of AVATAR 2. Love this answer about James Cameron. The underwater performance-capture technology should be incredible. #TheAdamProject #Avatar2 pic.twitter.com/u79EOEsQHQ

— Kevin McCarthy (@KevinMcCarthyTV) March 11, 2022

As is now the case every decade or so, I have a feeling people are going to be eating crow once again for yet another James Cameron blockbuster, come December.

Also, at this point, I'm guessing we finally get the first trailer either with Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness on May 6, or with Thor: Love and Thunder on July 8, seeing as this is now a Disney franchise.

I said to someone the other day I bet it'll be with MoM.

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Avatar maybe didn't suck but it is an incredibly boring movie without the groundbreaking effects of being in a theater. I cannot bring myself to even watch it a second time.

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Pretty much this, but it's hard to ignore how awesome the 3D was. Pretty much the only movie I've ever seen to do it right and be fully immersive. So yeah, Dances with Smurfs in 2D, but a grand cinematic achievement in 3D.

Also the ride at Disney is incredible.

Gonna be really interesting to see what people complain about when it's a more original story.

I'm sure people will still call it boring or derivative while it blasts past $1B.

I'm also pretty curious to see if 3D makes another resurgence.

I know I haven't seen a single movie in 3D since I moved to Florida in 2018. I don't believe they've ever even had the option unless I'm forgetting. But you better believe I'll be watching this in 3D, and driving to a farther theater if necessary.

Have they said it's going to be shown in 3D? Or that Cameron even shot it in 3D? Because I haven't heard a single peep yet in that regard. I also don't know if 3D projectors are even a thing anymore, if theaters got rid of them, or what.

All I know is that while Avatar was incredible in 3D, those were dark, dark days for blockbusters in the years following. I don't think I saw a single blockbuster in IMAX again until like 2014 or so? If anyone should be mad at Avatar for anything, it's that seemingly every blockbuster from then on out was converted to sh*tty 3D and took up all the IMAX screens, which I refused to buy tickets for.

Thank god that trend finally came to an end, but now I'm nervous this might re-ignite it again...

I've just been assuming it since it was such a huge part of what made the first one such a phenomenon.

As bad as it got, the one thing everyone agrees is that Avatar did it right, so I'd assume most people would want to watch it that way again. And there's probably a whole generation of kids who've never experienced it.

Yep, filmed it 3D. And not only that, apparently it's some new technology that was developed for filming underwater.

https://ymcinema.com/2021/12/17/avatar-2-new-images-show-new-dimensions-of-underwater-cinematography/

Looks like he opted out of 48 FPS, thank God. I really hated that in The Hobbit. Took me out of that world completely.

Better be in 3d...was the best part of the first one.

Interesting. I wonder if, for projectors now, there's just like a setting or whatever and it can easily be switched to 3D, or if it really is a whole other system they have to install, like last time.

I don't have a subscription to the The Ankler, so I can't see the details, but I know Jeff and he's as reputable as they come. So it looks like we will indeed be seeing the first trailer with Doctor Strange here in about six weeks or so...

I know everyone's hot and bothered about when they're gonna be able to see the trailer for THOR: LOVE AND THUNDER, but aren't you curious when you'll be able to feast your eyes on... AVATAR 2?
How STRANGE you should ask.... https://t.co/6wPGFqQObf pic.twitter.com/K2YYdbm7Sh

— Jeff Sneider (@TheInSneider) March 21, 2022

Called it.

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As is now the case every decade or so, I have a feeling people are going to be eating crow once again for yet another James Cameron blockbuster, come December.

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Anyone underestimating a James Cameron sequel does so at their own peril.

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TCTTS said:

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As is now the case every decade or so, I have a feeling people are going to be eating crow once again for yet another James Cameron blockbuster, come December.

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Anyone underestimating a James Cameron sequel does so at their own peril.

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Damn right.

Fun fact, he was fired from that movie.

Brian Earl Spilner said:

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Fun fact, he was fired from that movie.

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You can tell, the direction style really shifts about 40 minutes into the film.

So, this coming week, the Disney panel at CinemaCon is scheduled for Wednesday the 27th in Las Vegas. (Disney bought 20th Century Fox in 2018, so Disney now owns the Avatar franchise.) Rumor is the title and first trailer will debut there, privately for theater owners (who the conference is for) and journalists in attendance. Sometimes CinemaCon trailers then debut online in the minutes/hours following, sometimes they remain private for attendees. Either way, the trailer is then heavily rumored to be attached the following week to Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness. In other words, we're almost assuredly getting the trailer online at some point between Wednesday, April 27 and Thursday, May 5th.