***** Formula 1 - 2024 Season *****

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In reply to mts6175 • 8:25p, 11/25/24
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Not saying I agree with him. I think competition wise, etc it makes sense to add teams. I think from the current teams selfish point of view, not allowing teams makes sense.

But, to your point, I guess I don't get the it goes both ways comment. Andretti nor GM did anything to increase popularity in US. It got to where it is in the US without GM. And having them likely won't matter one bit for sustaining that popularity. So what are they bringing to the table? That was Gunther's point, we aren't just going to let any team in now that they all want to be here since it's popular. We want to see what they bring.
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In reply to htxag09 • 9:06p, 11/25/24
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This is like saying you wont allow someone to buy Apple stock because they didnt invest in the 90's.

You just got to pay more to play -- there's always ways to consider past team's investments. To gatekeep because of this reason is pretty silly.
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In reply to tailgatetimer10 • 9:10p, 11/25/24
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tailgatetimer10 said:
This is like saying you wont allow someone to buy Apple stock because they didnt invest in the 90's.

You just got to pay more to play -- there's always ways to consider past team's investments. To gatekeep because of this reason is pretty silly.

You say it's silly but I feel like we're saying the same thing. The bids to get in aren't public right? Maybe Andretti was trying to get in at the Apple stock value of the 90's but GM came in at current value….
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In reply to htxag09 • 6:34a, 11/26/24
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We're saying the same thing. I just think Gunther is wrong and silly
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In reply to tailgatetimer10 • 8:06a, 11/26/24
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FWIW, simply paying more in your bid now that it's more popular is "bringing something to the table."
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9:18a, 11/26/24

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9:53a, 11/26/24
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I've been watching F1 since 1997 and I can't really ever remember seeing a cam shoot out of the car like that.

CART had similar issues from 1998-2001 with the Hanford Device. It would over-rev the engine so much that the engines would disintegrate.


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12:32p, 11/26/24
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Who would you want to see as the drivers for the GM team?

Who do you actually think we will see?




My heart says Danny Ric and Valtteri Bottas would be fun, but I know that's not going to happen.
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12:34p, 11/26/24
AG
Colton Herta a lock IMO. And I think we'll rescue Carlos from Williams
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1:27p, 11/26/24
cole trickle and ricky bobby
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In reply to Spaceball 1 • 1:36p, 11/26/24
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I think it will be a Herta with a veteran like Bottas or Perez (yes I know I typed it). Checo would have no shortage of sponsors/fans that a new F1 team would crave.
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In reply to ac04 • 1:58p, 11/26/24
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Each week they will be able to really sell Trickle on having special tires.
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2:17p, 11/26/24
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Could easily see Checo at the new team since it's only a matter of time until RB gives him the boot
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3:25p, 11/26/24

I'm fine if they take someone like Checo or Bottas to build the team, but hopefully they also solve the issue of no room for F2 drivers/drivers from the European ladder. Current F1 era brings drivers at a younger age than previously, I think Hill was an outlier in the 90s but 23 and under seemed like the "target" age (Schumi was 22 when he debuted). Nowadays 25 is already seen as "old" for rookie start, both Herta and O'Wart will be 26 by summer 2026.
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3:44p, 11/26/24
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Nobody is going to spend that kind of dilution fee money, start a works team and then cheap out on drivers. I feel like F1 does not really understand what they are unleashing. US sports business is a whole different level.
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In reply to StateofTexas • 3:59p, 11/26/24
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StateofTexas said:
I feel like F1 does not really understand what they are unleashing. US sports business is a whole different level.
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4:08p, 11/26/24
Hopefully this moive is for the positive. The US money is good, but the talent and fans are still way behind here vs EU
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In reply to PJYoung • 4:11p, 11/26/24

i was just thinking about Haas and how their initial lineup was worse, with Gutierrez and Grosjean lol
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11:30a
No commentators audio?
Comes on just as I post this.
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