***** Formula 1 - 2022 Season *****

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Man, Lewis was really hurting getting out of the car. I have back issues, but I can stop and get out or stop some Advil. I can't imagine having to drive a race with the porpoising issue and my back killing me.
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that race sucked but lol at ferrari
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Been dealing with health related issues since last week so had to cancel my trip to Montreal today. Just need this week to get better so I can leave to Silverstone worry free.
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La Fours
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Lol, I was gonna say he must have banged the guy's sister and didn't call her back, but they translated everyone's name.
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I've been laughing at "Pedro Gaseoso" for the last hour.
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boogieman said:

I've been laughing at "Pedro Gaseoso" for the last hour.
Don't forget Luis Hamilton, Jorge Russel, and Carlos Leclerc
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Ricciardo finding his speed again like Ricky Bobby and McLaren pats him on the head and sticks him on support.
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https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.fia-to-introduce-measures-to-control-porpoising-in-the-interest-of-safety.68ksm55ASFylepFVUS4yGy.html

Interesting measure that is needed but it seems RB will be loving this as they and Alpine are the ones that seems to play within the rules and not have huge porpoising issues.
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Any time I see the ridiculous bouncing I can't help but chuckle to myself how these same drivers whined about COTA.
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If I was RB I'd be pissed that 'we figured it out and they didn't, and now you are taking away our advantage'

And yeah it's a safety issue but obviously it can be fixed, as RB and Alpine have demonstrated
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WC87 said:

If I was RB I'd be pissed that 'we figured it out and they didn't, and now you are taking away our advantage'

And yeah it's a safety issue but obviously it can be fixed, as RB and Alpine have demonstrated
Yep. I'd be a little miffed if I were them also. You impose changes, RB/Alpine figure out the changes better than everyone else, and now you're changing mid-stream.

I also understand it's a health concern, that needs to be addressed. But like you said...it is fixable, maybe at the expense of performance for most teams though.

As much as we've heard Toto bring it up recently, along with Hamilton complaining about it mid-race and getting out of his car so slowly, was there any doubt FIA was going to make changes?
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I think it will greatly benefit both teams if everyone else is required to raise their ride heights. They won't lose performance.
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It will be interesting to see what these required changes are and how they affect performance. Will the performance loss be linear/uniform across the teams? I'm betting it won't be linear for all teams.
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numetalbizkitaggie said:

I think it will greatly benefit both teams if everyone else is required to raise their ride heights. They won't lose performance.


I guess that is the question, will RB and Alpine have to raise their floors to comply with new regs? Because I believe that will have a huge impact on their cars as they are currently set up pretty well.
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Yeah, I'm expecting the new regs will require all teams to change things and therefore impact performance.
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La Fours said:

Yeah, I'm expecting the new regs will require all teams to change things and therefore impact performance.

Yep. Almost like Mercedes let it ride knowing this would happen and Red Bull would basically be punished for it.
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7:02: 'The FIA's intervention will probably have an impact upon the competitive order and it may even increase Red Bull's advantage.'
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According to the FIA, the short-term measures will include closer scrutiny of the planks and skids underneath the cars, both in terms of their design and their observed wear. They will also define a metric the exact mathematical formula of which is still being analysed, and which the F1 teams have been asked to contribute to to define a limit for the "acceptable level of vertical oscillations".


Sounds like they will make sure teams aren't pushing the limit of performance by accepting a certain amount of porpoising. That means teams that already have it figured out will retain their performance, while the ones that haven't will have to sacrifice performance because the amount of porpoising is what will be measured and limited.
AKA the Command Center guy...
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WC87 said:

If I was RB I'd be pissed that 'we figured it out and they didn't, and now you are taking away our advantage'

And yeah it's a safety issue but obviously it can be fixed, as RB and Alpine have demonstrated


Exactly. Doesn't seem very fair.
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PJYoung said:

WC87 said:

If I was RB I'd be pissed that 'we figured it out and they didn't, and now you are taking away our advantage'

And yeah it's a safety issue but obviously it can be fixed, as RB and Alpine have demonstrated


Exactly. Doesn't seem very fair.


Looks like the TD will require teams with too much porpoising to raise their ride height 10mm. This should benefit teams that already have it under control.
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I think the rule will be that teams won't be allowed porpoising to a certain magnitude. So the will have to elminate/reduce it. For some teams all they will be able to do is raise the floor height which will lead to slower lap times.

If red bull doesn't have to make any changes then I think this will be a big advantage to them.
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Ah makes sense.
WC87
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Right, if RB is already within the new limits or however it is defined, and others will have to raise their floors, RB will run away from everyone.
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Anyone see the beaver run across the track?
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Franz Tost confirmed Pierre Gasly stays in Alpha Tauri for 2023. Assuming Yuki will stay as well. Bad news for Lawson and Vips. I know it's too early in the F2 season still but unless they end up in the Top 5 I can see Lawson leaving to DTM and who knows about Vips. Maybe Hauger impresses next year and gets an AT seat.
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AgGrad99 said:

Anyone see the beaver run across the track?
Probably had better pace than Latifi
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Gladiator 96 said:

AgGrad99 said:

Anyone see the beaver run across the track?
Probably had better pace than Latifi


Lol. They called it a groundhog on tv yesterday.
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This may seem obvious for y'all who have been following F1 for a while. For teams having to take a grid penalty for new power units, how much consideration is given to the circuit and being able to overtake? I'm guessing it plays a part. How much, who knows.
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It matters. But if your engine goes kaboom you don't have a choice.
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What happened to Checo and Leclerc in Q2?
 
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