Do we actually have an engineering department anymore?

We have the Dwight Look College of Engineering with over 10,000 students. Someone should walk over to the Department of Civil Engineering and ask some of the Professors and Graduate Students if anyone is involved in this etc.

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Just looked through this thread. I love all the engineers agreeing there is a concern, and all the lay people saying "I'm not an engineer, but I saw a building move once. So it's probably OK"

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I actually think the OP was getting the public spun up over nothing.

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Got any data to back that up, or just going off your gut?

Sounds like a good question for the OP.

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I don't know. Dying at Kyle Field is noble. Im sure they will erect a kickass statue of the event.

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I have south end zone tickets so I'm just going to leave this here in case something happens when they crank Sandstorm a little too loudly...

If you do make a statue of me, PLEASE don't make my face look like the faces on those new statues on the east side!

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I don't know. Dying at Kyle Field is noble. Im sure they will erect a kickass statue of the event.

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I have south end zone tickets so I'm just going to leave this here in case something happens when they crank Sandstorm a little too loudly...

If you do make a statue of me, PLEASE don't make my face look like the faces on those new statues on the east side!

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SEZ 2nd deck waterbed moving seats here as well. If I go...I don't want a picture...just put my name on a plaque with a quote that reads:

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Overall, he was kind of an ******* at times. But damnit, he was OUR *******!

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Sent a detailed letter on 12/5 to 12th Man president, Sam Torn, Sharp, and the interim president. A detailed forced response analysis is needed to confirm that IMO, using a substantial portion of fans jumping in synch to the music in question as the forcing function. The analysis could be empirical also.

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Sounds like a job for the incoming Class of Freshman. Fish Camp starts in the SEZ!

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I don't know. Dying at Kyle Field is noble. Im sure they will erect a kickass statue of the event.

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I have south end zone tickets so I'm just going to leave this here in case something happens when they crank Sandstorm a little too loudly...

If you do make a statue of me, PLEASE don't make my face look like the faces on those new statues on the east side!

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SEZ 2nd deck waterbed moving seats here as well. If I go...I don't want a picture...just put my name on a plaque with a quote that reads:

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Overall, he was kind of an ******* at times. But damnit, he was OUR *******!

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We must have seats pretty close to each other, Bunk. I don't think you're aiming big enough, though. If I go out in Kyle2.0, all I want is "mpaggie06 SEZ Memorial Stadium at Kyle Field, presented by Shiner Bock/Bluebell Icecream/American Momentum Bank" and guarantees that they will never bevel any logos near the stadium again.

They can put our plaques on the back of the chairs at The Silk Stocking.

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Damn I knew I should have sprung for those West side seats.
I don't know. Dying at Kyle Field is noble. Im sure they will erect a kickass statue of the event.

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Haha.

The documented concern of many fans sitting in the SEZ 2nd deck, including engineers who are not usually startled or concerned about "normal" structural movement, is sufficient data to warrant additional analysis of the second deck structure for the subject loading and resultant movement.

As I previously stated, I am confident the subject movement will be thoroughly analyzed and investigated, and remediation measures taken if needed. Anything less would be negligent and astonishing actually, particularly given the exposure.

The last communication I received was that we are waiting on a written report from the engineers. The responsible parties are obviously on this, and I have to believe safety will ultimately not be compromised.

Will be?

...or already has been.

MagnumLoad,
thanks for staying on top of this.
I surely don't want to see a bad accident at Kyle because of bad construction.

Are we still talking about this?

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Are we still talking about this?

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You obviously don't have 2nd Deck SEZ seats if you think this has been discussed too much!

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Are we still talking about this?

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Kinda, but it is starting to go full zoo. I'm surprised it stayed on topic this long.

It's important actually.

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Will be?

...or already has been.

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This. Which is why I think it's much to do about nothing.

There is definitely an issue. It has been tested, and in advance of results I predict that remediation will take place. Simple placement of structural support to mitigate what's going on will happen. And it will be done prior to the 1st game. Includes columns.

I predict something similar. But it may come back that the only change is an added placard.

I guess we'll see in time.

"Think" is way different than "know" Phil. It is important, critical actually, that we know, which is and was the point. Carry on.

Which is precisely why I said think. I don't know any of the analytical details (nor do you), but based on their past history of stadium construction, I think it's much do to over nothing.

I "think" the structure is engineered just fine. But people have comfort thresholds that are different than what structurally sound means on paper.

There can be no issue in the steel, but if people feel unsafe the owners of the stadium have an issue.

Bracing it to limit motion to make you comfortable is how disasters happen.

Field changes are dangerous. See the Hyatt disaster.

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Bracing it to limit motion to make you comfortable is how disasters happen.

Field changes are dangerous. See the Hyatt disaster.

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Absolutely...any changes better be thoroughly analyzed before they are implemented.

I wish Clucky was around to give us some sketches to help clarify what we are talking about here. Think it would really help.

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Bracing it to limit motion to make you comfortable is how disasters happen.

Field changes are dangerous. See the Hyatt disaster.

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Absolutely...any changes better be thoroughly analyzed before they are implemented.

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Holy hell...

I am all in with Magnum!

You're assuming a problem where there is not one.

A distributed load of 200 #/sq ft isn't much. Double that for a person jumping and it still doesn't come close to a bridge full of 80,000# semis on small contact patches.

The above example has nothing whatsoever to do with dynamic response, which is both amplitude and frequency dependent. I'm weary and out.

Rebel's example is simply that you shouldn't rush into fixing a job without completely vetting it. At least, that's what I think he's saying. How many Hz do you stiffen it (if it needs to be)? It will just do the same thing next time there's a faster paced song to jump/bounce to if you don't raise it high enough.

Really... A vehicle moving across a bridge doesn't create an alternating wave as it crosses the nodes of the truss? Seams in the deck don't make cars bounce In rhythm dependent on speed?

Do you even think?

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BTW, the Hyaytt field changes were not made to limit movement for comfort. The field changes were not engineered, but rather made by the contractor for expediency.

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False.

The changes were made by the contractor yes, but the changes to the design were also approved by the engineering team in the review of the shop drawings. The engineering team lost their licenses to be engineers due to gross negligence.

It was not a "field change".

It was a field change as it was a change in design driven by practical application. It was not analyzed as it should have been due to time constraints (trying to open before a certain event)