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planoaggie123 said:

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Well said. The snarky comments from vax towards anti vax only hurts. I am not anti vax but have been slow to get covid vax. I am getting close but to be honest the self righteous post make me want to try and prove I can win without.

Why don't we all just leave it alone and let the data speak for itself. Lift one another up and not bash. Not many hesitant vax
people are "anti vax" and most support those that got it. Many like me just want to see more data and time. If I was higher risk I would have gotten but I am under 40, 22.8 BMI and normal blood pressure (check daily).

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I understand your thinking Plano and your numbers are very similar to mine, so I get it. I would talk to your doc and see what he/she recommends. I understand it's a personal decision, so just to share a bit since we're in similar circumstances as far as BMI and age (I'm 29). I chose to get the vax in part because my cousin who is also >40 and in good shape had a terrible time with COVID (lost 20 pounds, not in a good way), so it does happen. I realize that's anecdotal and it's rare, but I also hate missing work, so I thought if this keeps me from losing a week, worth it!

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Missed the thumbs up emotion

I get it. I watch the stories. I am thinking about it but *******s whole are condescending don't help but actually hurt.

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You would really make personal medical decisions based on your perception that people on the internet are being meanies? Really??? That's really shallow.

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You would really make personal medical decisions based on your perception that people on the internet are being meanies? Really??? That's really shallow.

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And not very smart.

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https://www.star-telegram.com/news/state/texas/article253786678.html?fbclid=IwAR1p5p_L-IYxrVDQSTOQ--dKs8DmGSmf2CsHLN2TMSgkWsyiUp-6AbRdLGA

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That's very sad but am I the only one who wonders about the go fund me? If you actively crusade for "freedom" shouldn't you be able to handle the consequences?

Eventually this is going to be an economic conversation. We all must make choices that aren't our first choice in order to live up to our family responsibilities, or at least we should. I feel bad for his wife, three kids and pregnant and seemingly without savings.I hope they have family to help out.

It's a sad article to read. Just can't rap my head around his stance when he had 3 kids to raise

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It's a sad article to read. Just can't rap my head around his stance when he had 3 kids to raise

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And another one in one month. Just irresponsible in my opinion.

Agree.

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GeographyAg said:

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YMMV, but here on TexAgs and my Facebook Feed the snarky posts from antivaxers out number the posts encouraging vaccination by a large percentage. Plus the snark factor for the antivaxers is a lot more vehement and persistent.

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I see people on the "anti" side as hesitant but rarely see them to shame those that get. I see far more shaming from those that got towards those that did not. Would love to see the examples of people anti who shame those that got.

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Since you asked I went through my Facebook feed and one or two threads on TexAgs and got screenshots to prove that the "anti" side has been very ugly and condescending and attacks every positive post I've ever seen about vaccines.

Unfortunately every time I tried to post the screenshots here it won't let me, so you're going to have to take my word for the fact that these are direct quotes. I do have the screenshots and could PM them to you maybe if you don't believe me.

Example #1: (Facebook)
An implication of lack of faith in God for deciding to vaccinate, PLUS the lovely blaming for Covid cases:
"I pray to God that those who have received a jab, will not suffer any long term health problems from this experimental jab. I also pray to God that all of this sickness in the middle of the summer is not the result of people shedding because they chose to inject the poison into their system."

Example #2 (Facebook)
I must have "caved in" and let the government take control over me because I made the decision to get the vaccine" and another one implying lack of faith in God for deciding to vaccinate,
"Please don't cave in. You have the right to stand up for yourself as to what goes into your body. Question everything and know that there are other options for treating illness. Don't let the government decide what's best for you and your family. They will not stop until they have complete control. But guess what, there is hope. That's right I'm placing my trust in God. God IS the ultimate healer."
--- Interestingly this gal lost her son to cancer a few years ago. He went through chemo. Yep. That's right. He ACTUALLY injected poison.

Example #3 (Facebook)
Getting the vaccine is taking the "Bait"
-- in response to a post that someone's fully vaccinated husband died this guy said,
"So sorry for your loss. Makes me more determined not to take the bait."

Example #4 (TexAgs)
If you get the vaccine you've got your head someplace not so nice.
"There is no empirical evidence these do a damn thing other than have adverse reactions. Please pull your head from you're a$$."

Example #5 (TexAgs)
"Put enough fear into people and they'll fall for anything"
So, those of us who have gotten the vaccine are afraid and will "fall for anything." I didn't bother to get the number of times people on f84 are called "fear mongers" "sheeple" and "coronabros."


Another very popular opinion on f16 (and in all my antivax friend circles) is that anyone who suggests using a vaccine MUST only be doing it for profit and because they're totally unethical doctors/pharmacists/scientists. (I always find that one very strange coming from supposedly pro-business pro-capitalism republicans) Just take a look at any thread here and you'll see it. It's constant.

Like I said, this is a SMALL sampling of the stuff I see nearly every day. I finally unfollowed several people. I had already unfollowed all my "natural news anti-vaxers" before Covid, so these are new antivax folks berating vaccine users.

First off, I hope Rex and Jbob fully recover quickly without long term issues.

Second, I think that human nature is to not "be wrong", so once a person develops a viewpoint, it is emotionally difficult for them to "flip flop". I think healthy skepticism of vaccines in mid 2020 was well founded. They hadn't been tested and were developed very quickly. Since then, there has been overwhelming evidence that these vaccines are safe, effective, and serve the public good. If you are so ingrained in your positions that you can't evolve your views once you learn more and frankly see direct evidence of what can happen to people who aren't vaccinated, you're very difficult to help. I'd rather be wrong and live than be willing to sacrifice my life because I am so committed to not being wrong and "looking foolish". There is a lot of that on this board.

People can choose whatever they want, I just think they're making terrible risk management decisions if they opt not to get it. It's a lot like game theory.

planoaggie123 said:

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planoaggie123 said:

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to be honest the self righteous post make me want to try and prove I can win without.

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Take moment to look at what "winning" and "losing" looks like here, and stop treating this like a game.

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You couldn't just say something kind and try and support but you choose the negative and that specific face. You are the problem.

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Sorry, that was me trying to be kind. I will try harder.


So pretty please, with sugar on top, get the ****ing vaccine.

People who are anti-vax and talk about having faith in God remind me of the old joke about the devoutly religious man caught in a flood. He sends away multiple potential rescuers in boats/helicopters, saying that God will protect him. After eventually drowning, he asks God in heaven why he wasn't saved, to which God replies "I sent two boats and a helicopter!"

I just mentioned the same thing to my husband the other night.

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People who are anti-vax and talk about having faith in God remind me of the old joke about the devoutly religious man caught in a flood. He sends away multiple potential rescuers in boats/helicopters, saying that God will protect him. After eventually drowning, he asks God in heaven why he wasn't saved, to which God replies "I sent two boats and a helicopter!"

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Yup. Mr. Geo and I say the same thing all the time.

Funny thing - they wear glasses. No faith? They wear a seat belt. No faith?

I could go on and on.

Any update on Rex or jbob? Was over at Target by Caprock this afternoon and sent one up for both of you guys. Made my wife do it too. Told her it was for some guys I know on the internet. I think she is a little concerned now.

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GeographyAg said:

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planoaggie123 said:

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GeographyAg said:

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YMMV, but here on TexAgs and my Facebook Feed the snarky posts from antivaxers out number the posts encouraging vaccination by a large percentage. Plus the snark factor for the antivaxers is a lot more vehement and persistent.

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I see people on the "anti" side as hesitant but rarely see them to shame those that get. I see far more shaming from those that got towards those that did not. Would love to see the examples of people anti who shame those that got.

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Since you asked I went through my Facebook feed and one or two threads on TexAgs and got screenshots to prove that the "anti" side has been very ugly and condescending and attacks every positive post I've ever seen about vaccines.

Unfortunately every time I tried to post the screenshots here it won't let me, so you're going to have to take my word for the fact that these are direct quotes. I do have the screenshots and could PM them to you maybe if you don't believe me.

Example #1: (Facebook)
An implication of lack of faith in God for deciding to vaccinate, PLUS the lovely blaming for Covid cases:
"I pray to God that those who have received a jab, will not suffer any long term health problems from this experimental jab. I also pray to God that all of this sickness in the middle of the summer is not the result of people shedding because they chose to inject the poison into their system."

Example #2 (Facebook)
I must have "caved in" and let the government take control over me because I made the decision to get the vaccine" and another one implying lack of faith in God for deciding to vaccinate,
"Please don't cave in. You have the right to stand up for yourself as to what goes into your body. Question everything and know that there are other options for treating illness. Don't let the government decide what's best for you and your family. They will not stop until they have complete control. But guess what, there is hope. That's right I'm placing my trust in God. God IS the ultimate healer."
--- Interestingly this gal lost her son to cancer a few years ago. He went through chemo. Yep. That's right. He ACTUALLY injected poison.

Example #3 (Facebook)
Getting the vaccine is taking the "Bait"
-- in response to a post that someone's fully vaccinated husband died this guy said,
"So sorry for your loss. Makes me more determined not to take the bait."

Example #4 (TexAgs)
If you get the vaccine you've got your head someplace not so nice.
"There is no empirical evidence these do a damn thing other than have adverse reactions. Please pull your head from you're a$$."

Example #5 (TexAgs)
"Put enough fear into people and they'll fall for anything"
So, those of us who have gotten the vaccine are afraid and will "fall for anything." I didn't bother to get the number of times people on f84 are called "fear mongers" "sheeple" and "coronabros."


Another very popular opinion on f16 (and in all my antivax friend circles) is that anyone who suggests using a vaccine MUST only be doing it for profit and because they're totally unethical doctors/pharmacists/scientists. (I always find that one very strange coming from supposedly pro-business pro-capitalism republicans) Just take a look at any thread here and you'll see it. It's constant.

Like I said, this is a SMALL sampling of the stuff I see nearly every day. I finally unfollowed several people. I had already unfollowed all my "natural news anti-vaxers" before Covid, so these are new antivax folks berating vaccine users.

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When you compare the individuals on facebook and TexAgs to the much louder voices of big corporations, big public health, big mainsteam media, big tech, entertainment/sports/pop culture, academia, ISDs etc., it really gets dwarfed. I don't think is a true equivalency.

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The voices of big corporations, etc., are encouraging people to get vaccinated. They may even make a "vaccines required" policy. That's NOT the same thing as shouting at them, cursing at them, saying ugly things with vitriol the way antivaxers do.

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unmade bed said:

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Any update on Rex or jbob? Was over at Target by Caprock this afternoon and sent one up for both of you guys. Made my wife do it too. Told her it was for some guys I know on the internet. I think she is a little concerned now.

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I haven't seen anything today, hopefully they are continuing to heal.

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I am still at Caprock. Hoping I can go home today.

I'm still here as well. Probably going to be here a few more days at least. Making some progress though. Slowly. Thanks for the prayers everyone. Rex I hope you make it home today.

La Fours said:

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That's great news. Now do what your nurses and doctors tell you, so you can go home!!

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I jumped the gun. I am still stuck here, but I feel like I am getting closer.

Damn, well at least you get more Cracker Barrel . Keep it up, Rex, you'll be home soon!

Rex Racer said:

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La Fours said:

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That's great news. Now do what your nurses and doctors tell you, so you can go home!!

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I jumped the gun. I am still stuck here, but I feel like I am getting closer.

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Hopefully there's some nurses like this:

GeographyAg said:

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TheMasterplan said:

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GeographyAg said:

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planoaggie123 said:

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GeographyAg said:

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YMMV, but here on TexAgs and my Facebook Feed the snarky posts from antivaxers out number the posts encouraging vaccination by a large percentage. Plus the snark factor for the antivaxers is a lot more vehement and persistent.

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I see people on the "anti" side as hesitant but rarely see them to shame those that get. I see far more shaming from those that got towards those that did not. Would love to see the examples of people anti who shame those that got.

---

Since you asked I went through my Facebook feed and one or two threads on TexAgs and got screenshots to prove that the "anti" side has been very ugly and condescending and attacks every positive post I've ever seen about vaccines.

Unfortunately every time I tried to post the screenshots here it won't let me, so you're going to have to take my word for the fact that these are direct quotes. I do have the screenshots and could PM them to you maybe if you don't believe me.

Example #1: (Facebook)
An implication of lack of faith in God for deciding to vaccinate, PLUS the lovely blaming for Covid cases:
"I pray to God that those who have received a jab, will not suffer any long term health problems from this experimental jab. I also pray to God that all of this sickness in the middle of the summer is not the result of people shedding because they chose to inject the poison into their system."

Example #2 (Facebook)
I must have "caved in" and let the government take control over me because I made the decision to get the vaccine" and another one implying lack of faith in God for deciding to vaccinate,
"Please don't cave in. You have the right to stand up for yourself as to what goes into your body. Question everything and know that there are other options for treating illness. Don't let the government decide what's best for you and your family. They will not stop until they have complete control. But guess what, there is hope. That's right I'm placing my trust in God. God IS the ultimate healer."
--- Interestingly this gal lost her son to cancer a few years ago. He went through chemo. Yep. That's right. He ACTUALLY injected poison.

Example #3 (Facebook)
Getting the vaccine is taking the "Bait"
-- in response to a post that someone's fully vaccinated husband died this guy said,
"So sorry for your loss. Makes me more determined not to take the bait."

Example #4 (TexAgs)
If you get the vaccine you've got your head someplace not so nice.
"There is no empirical evidence these do a damn thing other than have adverse reactions. Please pull your head from you're a$$."

Example #5 (TexAgs)
"Put enough fear into people and they'll fall for anything"
So, those of us who have gotten the vaccine are afraid and will "fall for anything." I didn't bother to get the number of times people on f84 are called "fear mongers" "sheeple" and "coronabros."


Another very popular opinion on f16 (and in all my antivax friend circles) is that anyone who suggests using a vaccine MUST only be doing it for profit and because they're totally unethical doctors/pharmacists/scientists. (I always find that one very strange coming from supposedly pro-business pro-capitalism republicans) Just take a look at any thread here and you'll see it. It's constant.

Like I said, this is a SMALL sampling of the stuff I see nearly every day. I finally unfollowed several people. I had already unfollowed all my "natural news anti-vaxers" before Covid, so these are new antivax folks berating vaccine users.

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When you compare the individuals on facebook and TexAgs to the much louder voices of big corporations, big public health, big mainsteam media, big tech, entertainment/sports/pop culture, academia, ISDs etc., it really gets dwarfed. I don't think is a true equivalency.

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The voices of big corporations, etc., are encouraging people to get vaccinated. They may even make a "vaccines required" policy. That's NOT the same thing as shouting at them, cursing at them, saying ugly things with vitriol the way antivaxers do.

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Yeah that's just not true and you know that. There's a lot more than just "encouraging" going on.

Back to RexRacer and JBob--y'all doing okay? Doing your breathing treatments? Keeping your families informed? Hang in there.

I'm hanging in there. Just staying on oxygen treatments and rhemdisvir. I've been here since Friday, so I still have a ways to go yet I'm sure. I don't wish this on anyone and I pray that everyone on here avoids this. When I got Covid, seemed like a mild case and I got some
Meds called in and was feeling better all most right away. Once the chest tightness started, it went downhill quickly for me.
ETA, this is day 16 total for me with Covid symptoms. Chest problems started about day 8.

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Which meds got called in for you? I have asthma and lung tightness is no freaking joke

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I started ivermectin on day 2 and did a zpack and dexmathasone steroid starting on day 4, I believe. The dex worked quickly but it didn't keep me from turning into pneumonia.

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I am hanging in. Actually got a shower this morning. I actually feel human.

Glad you and jbob are hanging in there.

Still thinking you'll get to go home today Rex?