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Okay but it's not just me with this opinion and you are intentionally misrepresenting the point of those wanting him gone by saying you shouldn't do that just because he is 2-4 and ignoring all of the relevant context that goes with that.
I would have made the change last year, but we didn't, so what you and I thought last year doesn't matter. When you start agitating to fire him now, if your only reason is you wanted him fired last year, that's not a serious argument.
So, whether you feel that way or not, you are, in fact, arguing to fire him as justified by a 2-4 start to the conference season. He'll be judged on the results most likely at the end of the season, not by the results after two series. The review will certainly consider what happened last year, but if that's the sum of your argument, then you are arguing with the past, not the facts on the ground.
I guess I should state that I don't think he should be fired literally right now, I'm just saying that I have enough evidence to state he is not the guy that we need and when the time is right this season I want him gone. I've stated on other threads though it probably won't happen mid season unless the record gets so bad that we already know we are missing the post season for sure so probably early or mid May.
If I said somewhere that I want him fired right this instant then I misspoke, but I don't recall saying that.
He will be evaluated at the end of the season. Last year will be considered, but it was also his first season as a manager, got a very late start, and had a lot of injuries to overcome. That will all be factored in as well.
He arguably had the second most talented roster in the history of A&M (only bettered by the year before), so those things should not be factored in at all, IMO. Those are excuses for a terrible hire. He was dealt pocket aces with two more on the flop. Only incompetence loses that hand. Earley was the equivalent of Larry Coker at Miami back in the day. Only Coker actually won the title with that crazy talented roster before showing he wasn't really all that good in later years. Earley took that Miami team and went 6-6.
Cool, you are wrong, but cool. We get it, you don't like him as a coach and didn't like the hire. I wish we would have been able to get someone with more experience, but we were hiring late. We did have a talented roster last year, too bad many of the big names with talent were injured for most of the season (Grahovic, Sorrell, Sdao). I am not making excuses for him, but a competent AD factors all that in, which is probably why he was given a year 2 in the first place.
It's clear his boss saw something in him and wanted to give him a second year. It's clear his boss factored in the items I raised which you think are "excuses". Like I said, if he shows he can develop and grow then he will keep his job. If he doesn't then he won't. Calling for his firing after 2 weekends of a 10 weekend SEC schedule is ridiculous, it screams of someone who was just waiting for a reason to scream "Fire Earley" at the first opportunity. I don't think the team, or Alberts, or the fans are ready to give up on this season, but apparently you are.
What part is wrong? The most talented roster part or the not factoring in the excuses part?
I never called for him to be fired 2 weekends in. I didn't love the hire at the time, but understood it given the time frame and the swing and miss on UF and UT coaches. My biggest issue with Earley was that he didn't ask for the job prior to bailing for tu (IMO bc he knew he wasn't qualified). I said it at the time and last year did nothing to prove that wrong.
That said, Trev was also placed over a barrel with the players. All that said, simply stating that a coaching evaluation can not be done this early in the season is misguided. Again, not a decision to fire, but an evaluation. That can and should be done weekly. To date, what has Earley done that leads you to believe that he belongs in the head coaches seat? What demonstrable evidence supports your view? Or do you need till the end of the year to answer that?
BTW, he was never going to get fired last year bc of the guaranteed 4 year deal in a sport that runs a deficit every year. It didn't matter if Alberts gave him credit for injuries or anything else, his hands were tied (in this case he tied his own) and he couldn't for a variety of reasons (pride from the hire, attempting to save even more face from the loss of Schloss and the major financial hickey for eating 3 years + the new coach). Trev doesn't seem the type to excuse performance based on injuries. Injuries didn't cause us to be swept by one of the most historically awful baseball teams in history...
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