Lance Uppercut said:

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I just think you're asking a lot of a new AD to fire a guy first day on the job. You can't wait much past July can you?

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Many people think that, but this situation is his job. What's really different about doing it this year instead of next or a few later?

But if we're to believe the rumors about Woodward, he won't have that much autonomy anyway. There are probably other people that have to give the signal to make a move in the first place.

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If he were on the job right now, I think you'd have a point. But, he doesn't start until July 1, and that is a little later than you would normally expect a change to be made. Would he give the order and force RC to be the trigger man?

The one thing that really does point to this being a decision time is Rob's contract status. It would be highly unusual to see a coach go into the final year of his contract with no extension. I don't think RC will be handing one out before Bjork arrives.

BQ_90 said:

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Lance Uppercut said:

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Still think that was the last Childress coached baseball game at A&M. The results, the overall performance of the offense this year, and the timing on his contract all line up. If you play along as AD, the last time they might have made a change is 2014. And we changed the coordinator of the offense instead, so that card has been played. You weren't going to get a change after 2015 or 2016, or in 2017 after making a CWS.

And now A&M has more athletic department income thanks to the SEC. Childress was hired at a point where the AD was taking out loans. If they don't make a change here, I would think it signals pretty glaringly that we aren't football+basketball+baseball rich, or is commentary on the status of baseball's importance to the athletic department.

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He would be fired if Woodward was still AD, I just think you're asking a lot of anew AD to fire a guy first day on the job. You can't wait much past July can you?

I guess if Sharp or Young are big baseball fans you might get movement to can him now, but not sure they care

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I wonder if Woodward already made the hire in principle before he left and we made sure we had a permanent AD to announce said hire before the end of the season, whenever that may have happened.

So the new AD would have to be on hook for a hire made by the old AD? I guess if it's the Ole Miss coach. But that's asking for a lot of moving pieces to fall in place

Childress is staying. It's too bad that Woodward couldn't stay in Aggieland longer to make changes in Baseball and Softball. We will never know what changes he would've made if he stayed.

RC needs to go but I don't believe it will happen any time soon. If Woodward was still around, we would be looking for baseball/softball skippers this summer. Not enough pissed off donors to make a change just yet.

That is the AD's job to find the guy.

after 14 seasons a coaching change should definitely be made.

but I'm not sure if the "search apparatus" is in place

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And now A&M has more athletic department income thanks to the SEC. Childress was hired at a point where the AD was taking out loans. If they don't make a change here, I would think it signals pretty glaringly that we aren't football+basketball+baseball rich, or is commentary on the status of baseball's importance to the athletic department.

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We have to remember that 13 other schools have SEC money too. And thanks to the crazy football contracts, every P5 school has more money for secondary sports than they did 10 or 20 years ago. I don't follow college baseball as closely anymore as you or TWK (or several other posters on this board), so I don't have any bright ideas. But I've seen discussion on other sports boards about some changes in the college baseball landscape, simply because it's become a far more competitive environment to stand out as a school that emphasizes baseball. Some smaller schools that were always considered traditional baseball schools are now struggling to keep up with the changing environment.

I realize I'm getting a little off-track from the Childress debate, just throwing out my two cents that the coaching decision isn't an easy question of institutional commitment, but whether a better alternative is available at the right time and if the powers-that-be feel like handling a search right now. I don't have a clue about either of those.

No longer care one way or the other.

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Jevertson said:

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Pay a top notch hitting coach and let Childress continue to develop strong pitching. We've had a few teams good enough to win it all in his tenure; this wasn't one of them due I believe to hitting coaches not developing our hitters, especially picking up good off speed pitching.

P.S. too much bunting

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Who would take the job with HC on the hot seat?

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I get the sentiment, but baseball coaching is vastly different than football. A coach could come for a single season and, assuming things didn't work out, get a HC job at a mid-major or make a lateral move.

I don't think getting someone to take the job will be an issue. I think the real issue is getting the job open in the first place. And that IS a problem.

If you fire RC who do you want?? Who do you think you can get??

Forget the argument the AD makes that call because you got a brand new AD who has not vetted the program

I wanna hear who we think we can get from people


I am on the fence honestly because this years team hit for crap and we still were in a hosting discussion and our metrics were good based upon previous committee decisions
I also think if someone had told me we averaged 7 runs per game in a regional with our pitching we would have won the regional

Could be, but a lot of college baseball hires were guys who weren't already established big names in the sport.

Savage at UCLA only had a few years at Irvine before going there.
O'Connor at Virginia was an assistant at the time of his hiring
O'Sullivan at Florida was an assistant
Pat Casey was an NAIA coach
Corbin at Vanderbilt was an assistant
The coach at Coastal Carolina was at a DII school

That covers the last 6 national champions. Maybe that helps in you in not having to break the bank to make a change, and helps with the timing issue. Though I think the AD would feel more pressure making that kind of move over someone who had some D1 experience

State has had a good program for a LONG time.

Mississippi State hired the Indiana head coach. He was also a long-time assistant at Louisville.

but that's the search apparatus I refer to. Is there a list of names already in the works?

like Byrne used to always say he had in his desk

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One thing I'll add is even though many are mad and want RC gone, it hasn't impacted season tickets sales and for the most part attendance. So in a money neutral sport there isn't the pressure like a true revenue making sport

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Fair point, but I'd argue that's more a function of our stadium having only 5k actual seats. You'd be a fool to release a reserved season ticket. There's a waiting list to snatch them up. If we had built capacity to SEC demand or sightly over, I'm we'd see some fluctuation. As it is, though, our demand data is truncated at capacity.