Looks like they found some pride...

Not sure losing on the road as a 4pt dog is really melting down.

Truth is Auburn was ranked as high as they were due to preseason ranking. Their best win is a now unranked Arkansas.

Dammit

Badgers probably gonna fall out in all the upcoming bracket updates.

Pitt down 9 right now is also a great development

Jeez.

What a meltdown by the Canes

Miami blew it

Lots of season left but it was a disastrous day for improving our standing on the bubble. Basically everyone we needed to lose won

Jinx

AggieCrew44 said:

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Lots of season left but it was a disastrous day for improving our standing on the bubbles. Basically everyone we needed to lose won

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If we take care of our business the way we need to, it won't matter.

If it gets to late February and we're still in a similar spot, then we can start bubble watching and worrying about it.

Nevada ended up losing and Penn St plays Michigan today, so hopefully the Nittany Lions lose.

Y'all are worried about this way too early. Save yourselves some stress and come back to this thread in about three weeks.

Yesterday did damage to our strength of schedule. Margin of error is thinner now.

With 10 games left…
MUST win ALL: UGA, Aub, @LSU, Arky, @OM
Probably need one of these: @Arky, @Mizzou, UT, @State, Bama

That would get us to 13-5, probably no worse than 3rd or 4th place finish.

12-6 would leave us in play-in/last 4 out territory.

AggieCrew44 said:

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Lots of season left but it was a disastrous day for improving our standing on the bubble. Basically everyone we needed to lose won

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Wrong. Vandy lost.

Update will be posted in the next 30 minutes. I have us at #67.

Would be great if auburn can sneak in the top 30 of NET by end of year

gougler08 said:

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Would be great if auburn can sneak in the top 30 of NET by end of year

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Maybe if we would stop beating the brakes off them.

OP is updated. #67

*65. Pitt (62, 15-7) Didn't do much OOC outside of a win at Northwestern. Really good wins in ACC play over Virginia, UNC and Miami have them on the right side of the bubble for now.
*66. Kentucky (33, 14-7) Kentucky challenged themselves outside of conference but didn't win any of them. They did avoid bad losses until they got to conference play and took a bad L at home to South Carolina but made up for it with a win in Knoxville. Head-to-Head keeps Kentucky just ahead of Texas A&M for now.


12 seeds
*67. Texas A&M (42, 15-6) The Aggies just squeak into the field in the latest projection heading into February. The win at Auburn is definitely one to feel good about at the end of the year, but it's still just the 2nd Quad 1 win (@Florida). It feels like the hot start to conference play (7-1) has made up for an abysmal OOC (8-5 vs. the #215 OOC SOS and losses to Wofford and Murray State) but there is still very little margin for error here and a 12-6 conference record and top 4 finish is a must. To do that would just simply take a 5-5 finish down the stretch vs. a schedule difficulty that is definitely a notch above what was faced to start league play. A win on the road at Arkansas on Wednesday would be a nice little bonus to get us off the bubble at least temporarily. If we fail, a win on Saturday vs. Georgia is an absolute must.
*68. Wisconsin (69, 12-8) Losers of 6 of 7 the Badgers are playing their way out of the field despite their worst loss being to Michigan State and solid wins vs. Penn State, Iowa, Maryland, Marquette, USC and Dayton. The NET is a real problem for Wisconsin right now and even though its early the games this week are starting to feel like must wins.
*Play-in game participants
------------------THE BUBBLE BURSTS HERE------------------
69. Oklahoma (65, 12-9) The Sooners got one of the biggest wins of the season by knocking off Alabama. That's great and all but they are still 2-6 in conference play and have 9 losses before February. Like West Virginia, this will be a test case of exactly how bad can your conference record be and still get in?
70. Penn State (60, 13-7) There isn't much too this resume other than home wins against Indiana and Iowa. #219 OOC SOS means they need a .500 record or better in conference and as of now they are not there.
71. Ohio State (27, 11-10) The NET ranking for the Buckeyes is a bit of a head scratcher considering their overall record (including one inexcusable loss on their home court to Minnesota (#215). Desperately in need of a 2-0 week to right the ship.
72. Arizona State (57, 15-7) Losers of 4 in a row this resume is getting uglier by the day. An ugly road loss to Texas Southern #321 also doesn't help.
73. Seton Hall (66, 12-9) 3 good quad 1 wins over UConn, Rutgers and Memphis but just 6-5 in conference needs to turn around if they want an at large.

Penn St. just walloped Michigan at home. Only a Q2 win, but their NET will probably get a nice boost from 60 tomorrow.

Also, digging into Arkansas' resume a little more, there really isn't much there. If we manage to pull the upset Tuesday then they'll be entering danger territory.

Their 3 quad 1 & 2 wins are San Diego St. on a neutral court, OU on a neutral court and Mizzou at home.

Ya i think they are in much more danger than people realize. If they lose this week they fall to 3-6 with conference games still remaining @Kentucky, @A&M, @Alabama, @Tenn and Kentucky to end the year. Feels like there are at least 4 more losses there and even if they win all their other games i think they are looking at best case 8-10 in conference if they lose this week. They beat San Diego State and Oklahoma OOC but it feels like they probably need 9-9 to feel like they are in.

Massive game for them coming up.

The looked pretty decent against Baylor.

Oh I agree. I think they are a very good team and quite honestly I expect they will beat us on Tuesday. I'm just saying that if they do lose they are in serious trouble from a resume standpoint.

It's an absolute free roll for the Ags on Tuesday. Would be a massive win, but a loss doesn't change anything. The two home games to follow are vital.

100% agree. A win there boosts us out of the last 4 in for now but it's not the end of the world if we lose. Absolutely need to win the 2 home games after it though.

And it's absolutely a must win for Arkie. It'll be interesting to see how the two teams react to that respective pressure difference.

I completely understand (and agree to an extent) that Tuesday's game is NOT a "must win" for the Ags - but think it is interesting that every bracket currently has Arky a couple of seeds above the Ags - yet it is a "must win" for them? To what? To avoid dropping down to a 10 or 11 seed on projected brackets and be on the same bubble amd position where the Ags are considered by many to be today?

I prefer to look at it in terms of likelihood of competing for the Regular Season Conference Title. The Ags are in the running now and probably still have a shot regardless of Tuesday's result. But Arky is not in the running now and might have no chance of getting into the Conference Title race with a loss to the Ags.

20 wins and this team will make the NCAA's.

I think it has a lot to do with the venue. If we're roughly even in the pecking order, we should each win our respective home game. Additionally, right now they are perceived as the better team. Losing at home to us changes that perception for them. For us however, beating them on the road is a huge positive boost, but losing on the road doesn't change what anyone thinks about us.

No

Fanatic15...Drs2B! said:

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I completely understand (and agree to an extent) that Tuesday's game is NOT a "must win" for the Ags - but think it is interesting that every bracket currently has Arky a couple of seeds above the Ags - yet it is a "must win" for them? To what? To avoid dropping down to a 10 or 11 seed on projected brackets and be on the same bubble amd position where the Ags are considered by many to be today?

I prefer to look at it in terms of likelihood of competing for the Regular Season Conference Title. The Ags are in the running now and probably still have a shot regardless of Tuesday's result. But Arky is not in the running now and might have no chance of getting into the Conference Title race with a loss to the Ags.

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Arkansas has zero chance of being in an SEC Title race. Already with 5 losses and still games @ UT, UK, College Station and Bama. They'll be lucky to finish .500. I believe he means "must win" in the sense of Arkansas has been nosediving for several weeks in a row. If the bleeding isn't stopped, they're in trouble. When you lose to Vandy and LSU after supposedly being one of the favorites to with the conference, it's time to worry.

"Must win" has become rather meaningless.

We're going to need to win probably 2 upset games, and probably cant afford to lose any games we are favored in addition to that.
It's possible for sure

Method Man said:

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How about 21 which is 13-5? Starting conference play, 12-6 (20 wins total) was the conventional wisdom. Now it's 13-5 and 21 wins probably soon to be 13-5 plus a tournament win, then 2 tournament wins and so on until we're in the tournament finals with Lunardi saying one more win and A&M is in!

Sterling82 said:

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Method Man said:

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How about 21 which is 13-5? Starting conference play, 12-6 (20 wins total) was the conventional wisdom. Now it's 13-5 and 21 wins probably soon to be 13-5 plus a tournament win, then 2 tournament wins and so on until we're in the tournament finals with Lunardi saying one more win and A&M is in!

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This so much it hurts.

Seems like all we've done is win for a month and every week we somehow need to win more than the consensus the previous week.