Aggies trying to be aggressive

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Pumpkinhead said:

Here is a 20 minute highlight video of LSU vs Arky in SECT semi-final a month ago. Henderson actually played 26 minutes for Arky in this game, so he's on the court a bunch in this vid. He had a couple of dunks in these highlights and 3-4 plays where you see him block or alter shots.

https://forums.hogville.net/index.php?PHPSESSID=pd7hgkp4fhs6ccb284cuapkl8h&topic=728306.0
I appreciate the link. Some color from Arkansas fans that doesn't show up in the stat line that most see and are disappointed with.

So, looking at the positive, comments from Arkansas fans like:

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"love the energy and passion me played with anytime he got an opportunity."

"I always admired your hustle and shot-blocking ability."

"I thought his development had improved greatly and he was reliable off the bench. He made it count every minute he was in there."

"any playing time he got, he gave 100%"

"Ethan Henderson made a positive impact nearly every time he came off the bench. A rebound, a put-back, a block - or hustle in the paint. I kept thinking he had to be on the verge of getting significant minutes"

"young man gave great effort but first and foremost he was a great teammate. You always saw his enthusiasm supporting his team."
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Arkansas fans seem to be shocked he went to a power 5 school
https://forums.hogville.net/index.php?topic=728436.0
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Gap, I realized I actually didn't post that LSU vs Arky game link. I fixed that post. I'd recommend watching that, cause Henderson is on the court a bunch in that one and is an SEC level game from just a month ago, if you are interested.
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MarcAg said:

Arkansas fans seem to be shocked he went to a power 5 school
https://forums.hogville.net/index.php?topic=728436.0
I did the positive comments from Arkansas fans above. I'll do the negative too from Arkansas fans.

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"Texas A&M is really betting that two different coaching staffs (Anderson and Musselman) were unable to untap his potential. Smart risk to take if you're a mid-major, tougher bet if you're an SEC school."

"Tells you where A&M is as a program...he played hard but no offensive threat at all."

"After the season A&M and Buzz just had they should be trying to get the very best they can on campus and not taking a flyer on a P5 third stringer. Think it speaks more to the shape A&M is in right now."

"I thought he would go somewhere to get some playing time but congratulations. I thought a school like UALR"

"Didn't see this coming. I thought he would end up at a non power school."

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"Ethan may surprise... He will do well in the slow game the Ags play."

"I agree. He can defend and in a slow game he will be good for them."

"If he's not looking to play major minutes but wants to go from averaging 3 minutes to 10 minutes and stay at a big time program, it could be a good move."

"Not shocked, 6'8", quick jumper, don't have to run any offense for him. Good defender as well."

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I think a realistic floor for Henderson would be about 8-10 minutes per game guy off the bench, who is always ready to play and is a plus defender and finishes his dunks when he has a point blank shot at the rim. If you get any more than that, he exceeded expectations.
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he's sort of a Marlon Pompey guy off the bench. With Miller and the Canadian big man that would be a much more solid front court than what we had this year. Especially on the defensive end.
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I think a lot of us already thought we had post players to play 8 minutes a game and were hoping to find one to be a major contributor (opposite Miller). Maybe Brown is ready to go, but big men usually take him and he is young (should be class of 2021 HS) and next year is his first season actually playing since he only played 2 games this year.
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Pumpkinhead said:

I think a realistic floor for Henderson would be about 8-10 minutes per game guy off the bench, who is always ready to play and is a plus defender and finishes his dunks when he has a point blank shot at the rim. If you get any more than that, he exceeded expectations.
I don't think we had anyone like Henderson on our team this year. He is on the court to do everything but score. So, don't be looking for him for offense. Kind of reminds me of Marlon Pompey who was on some good A&M teams for Billy Gillispie and did the dirty work.
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phorizt said:

he's sort of a Marlon Pompey guy off the bench.
Wow, I didn't see your Pompey comparison until after I posted my comment making the Pompey comparison as well after scanning the LSU video.

Kind of interesting that two people pull that comparison of what is really a fairly obscure player in A&M basketball's past. Must be something to it.
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When you were after a guy like Felder and you end up with Henderson it's a huge kick in the balls. Now maybe they have something up their sleeve for another inside player they plan to land. If that's the case and Henderson is second best inside player you bring in them yeah I'm ok with it. If he's the best big man they bring in from portal then there is no doubt the staff behind closed doors is not happy with how this all went.
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yeah very similar build and athleticism. Neither with an ounce of offensive skill other than dunking. Energy, length, athleticism and defense. There's a spot of Henderson to get PT and help the team. I think we're all just disappointed we didn't make a big splash transfer yet with a guy who is going to be a dynamite offensive player for us.
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MarcAg said:

When you were after a guy like Felder and you end up with Henderson it's a huge kick in the ball. Now maybe they have something up their sleeve for another inside player they plan to land. If that's the case and Henderson is second best inside player you bring in them yeah I'm ok with it. If he's the best big man they bring in from portal then there is no doubt the staff behind closed doors is not happy with how this all went.
to be fair, we already brought in a talented big man from the portal. He was just at mid term. Young and raw but still a guy who was a high priority for this staff for a long time back to his HS days.

In Buzz's system I'm much more concerned about getting some perimeter scoring help with the last 1 or 2 spots. I honestly think that post scoring is about priority #30 for Buzz when building his roster. He seems pretty content just getting some long athletic defenders and rebounders at the position.
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phorizt said:

yeah very similar build and athleticism. Neither with an ounce of offensive skill other than dunking. Energy, length, athleticism and defense. There's a spot of Henderson to get PT and help the team. I think we're all just disappointed we didn't make a big splash transfer yet with a guy who is going to be a dynamite offensive player for us.

Yep. Assuming McNeilly leaves, we have one more spot and hopefully we'll get an established scorer. Henderson seems more like a depth guy who might give us 10-15 minutes a night, get some rebounds, block some shots. Not a bad addition, just not someone who can elevate the program.
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I guess The juco kid not coming cleared a spot. Forgot
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Pumpkinhead said:

MarcAg said:

We might have down graded from Marfo


I'd for sure rather have Henderson than Marfo IMO. Marfo demonstrated that he wasn't cut out for high major play. Henderson is plenty athletic and really long. He can at least be a better rim protector and dunk finisher than Marfo was capable of being against SEC competition.

Quick scan of Hogville, their posters generally seemed to like Henderson. Said he had 'a lot of dog in him' and 'played hard', just didn't have much of an offensive game.

My impression from reading their boards is an athletic high energy scrapper type with a bench role, will be a definite plus on defense, very reliable defender, but mostly a non-threat on offense other than put backs and such.

Hogville thread when his transfer was announced.

https://forums.hogville.net/index.php?PHPSESSID=pd7hgkp4fhs6ccb284cuapkl8h&topic=728306.0


This is pretty accurate. He can't shoot at all but he's very athletic, was highly rated coming out of high school and plays hard. He actually played well in spurts with some dunks, rebounds and blocks in the time he was in there this year but he's just too limited offensively to have a big role. He's also pretty skinny so he can get pushed around by wide bodies in the paint. But he's exciting to watch sometimes because he'll have moments where he gets an emphatic rejection on one end and then a violent throwdown on the other.
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We need shooters/scorers.
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Was this a combo deal? Are we getting Sills too?
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MarcAg said:

When you were after a guy like Felder and you end up with Henderson it's a huge kick in the balls. Now maybe they have something up their sleeve for another inside player they plan to land. If that's the case and Henderson is second best inside player you bring in them yeah I'm ok with it. If he's the best big man they bring in from portal then there is no doubt the staff behind closed doors is not happy with how this all went.


I totally understand. But you did post a bit back that you wouldn't have been upset if they landed Cork, cause at least he'd be better then an ok Aku.

As I said in an earlier post, I can understand the staff's reasoning choosing Henderson over a Cork.
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I like Cork better. He's got some weight to battle inside. He looks like he might have at least a couple of post moves.
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So we are happy a guy playing on a team that made the elite 8 in our conference that averaged 6 mins a game and 1.2 points is coming to us??
While I hope he is an upgrade over Marfo which didn't work out it seems that this move is currently better for Arkansas then us by freeing them up a scholarship and we losing one for a player that couldn't get many minutes in a team from our own conference
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I'm not sure anyone is happy about it, but you're looking at it the wrong way if you're worried about what it means for Arkansas. They're several levels better than us right now so who cares.

All that matters is if he can help us get better. I'm not sure if he can or not, but that's the only question.
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Method Man said:

We need shooters/scorers.
THIS
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Method Man said:

We need shooters/scorers.
like this guy?

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Walt Luddiger said:

Method Man said:

We need shooters/scorers.
like this guy?


Not so fast. Do you hold out for a guy who may not stay?
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I'll give us a 1% shot at best of landing McClung
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MarcAg said:

I'll give us a 1% shot at best of landing McClung

so....you're saying there's a chance
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Always a chance. Miracles happen
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LawHall88 said:



Not so fast. Do you hold out for a guy who may not stay?

i mean, id be okay offering his dad mcneillys job just to give us a chance at him
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So, this is a fun reminder.
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Because why not?
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LawHall88 said:




The rich get richer once again.
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That's what the portal is about in basketball. The top teams are using it to just reload. Bottom feeders are left cleaning up the crumbs.
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MarcAg said:

That's what the portal is about in basketball. The top teams are using it to just reload. Bottom feeders are left cleaning up the crumbs.
So BK's last year, he goes 2-0 against Alabama and 1-1 against Arkansas, we hire Buzz, they hire Oats and Musselman, and two years later both of them are just kicking our ass. I'm not suggesting we should have done something different, it is just not the outcome I expected. And it's frustrating.
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Two more will be entering the portal - bama now two over the limit
 
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