If there's one thing the Corps mirrors perfectly with the military, it's the "hurry up and wait" mentality. That's probably why we haven't heard anything new.

^ this ^

So having actually military experience and corps experience means nothing I guess

I was in the corps of cadets for two years before I joined the military

To play Devils Advocate here; as long as an order is legal not immoral you are obligated to follow it, regardless of your personal feelings or if you agree. I'm not saying you have to agree with said order, but your going to follow it or face consequences. As an NCO I carried out and enforced rules, standards and orders I personally thought were idiotic, moronic and a waste of time but then again I liked my current rank and didn't feel like facing UCMJ. Now, there were plenty of times I approached the individual giving said order and in a tactful and professional manner I gave my opinion but none the less I still executed said order.

I am not advocating just blindly following your superiors every wish and command by any means, but there is a very very fine line that must be walked in this situation or you can stir up a major **** storm you wish you hadn't.

Wildman15 said:

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The Corps of Cadets is the perfect platform to allow cadets to make decisions, learn from their mistakes, and build upon those experiences without the fear of losing lives in a military operation or costing a company large sums of money in a business environment. Our goal is to make highly sought after leaders, so why don't we let them actually be leaders?

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I agree. Cadet led and Cadre advised (minimally) used to work and be the norm. Make mistakes in training. And not when it matters.

I understand the concept of following orders, and I believe lawful orders should be followed. But I believe the current issue cadets are facing is they have absolutely no capabilities of what direction they want the Corps to go, or how to get there. Cadets are loosing the feeling of ownership, and there needs to be a way to give some ownership back to them

Wasn't trying to insult or insinuate anything. Didn't mean for it to come across that way if it did.
- from a Wildman '04

None taken! I always appreciate constructive arguments. It's much better than the meltdowns you see on Facebook

So living on the quad for two year, living in Marine Infantry barracks in 29 Palms for 4 years straight ( no winter break or summer break), and not going to every formation as a cadet at A&M make me unqualified to comment about this?

You obviously don't know what a 4 year enlistment looks like... especially in the USMC infantry

BigJim49 AustinNowDallas said:

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4 years at one post - sounds fishy !

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Things have changed in that regards. The military tries to give you and your family a more stable life by not PCSing you every two years or so. Key word though is try. Still happens. I was at Fort Lewis from May 2007 through Nov 2011 before I PCS to Korea. Granted two of those years were in Iraq but still four years in the same Battery and Battalion.

I should have been more specific.... 3 months in Boot Camp, 3 Months at Infantry School. 3 years and 6 months at 29 Palms with a 7 month deployment to Iraq and an 8 month deployment to Afghanistan during that time.

Seems like the PRC-F15H isn't working anymore

2/7Marine0311 said:

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Seems like the PRC-F15H isn't working anymore

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NICU Dad said:

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How about we get this thread back onto the tracks and out of the ditch.

Have any of the current cadets running the Cadet Run Corps webpage chimed in recently?

It seems several current cadets posted quite a bit and then went radio silent.

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Unfortunately the thread is dead or dying as former cadets are the only ones posting. As been pointed out multiple times in the past few weeks no current cadets have responded to this thread since they raised the alarm. I believe as close as we got was a Cadet only a couple years removed came on and said there was nothing new to report from the meeting.

With it being so close to the end of the semester I bet we won't hear anything until the end of the summer when the Key Leadership conference happens.... then the sky will be falling.

2/7Marine0311 said:

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With it being so close to the end of the semester I bet we won't hear anything until the end of the summer when the Key Leadership conference happens.... then the sky will be falling.

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I hope they take full advantage of the conference. Otherwise they're stuck

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NICU Dad said:

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How about we get this thread back onto the tracks and out of the ditch.

Have any of the current cadets running the Cadet Run Corps webpage chimed in recently?

It seems several current cadets posted quite a bit and then went radio silent.

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Unfortunately the thread is dead or dying as former cadets are the only ones posting. As been pointed out multiple times in the past few weeks no current cadets have responded to this thread since they raised the alarm. I believe as close as we got was a Cadet only a couple years removed came on and said there was nothing new to report from the meeting.

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I know but was trying to get us back on track as opposed to where the thread devolved into recently.

My take is if this was such a huge deal to the current cadets - granted I agree with cadet run- then they would have been passionate enough to get back to this thread and keep the heat on to help bring awareness to the changes they were in favor.

JABQ04 said:

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NICU Dad said:

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How about we get this thread back onto the tracks and out of the ditch.

Have any of the current cadets running the Cadet Run Corps webpage chimed in recently?

It seems several current cadets posted quite a bit and then went radio silent.

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Unfortunately the thread is dead or dying as former cadets are the only ones posting. As been pointed out multiple times in the past few weeks no current cadets have responded to this thread since they raised the alarm. I believe as close as we got was a Cadet only a couple years removed came on and said there was nothing new to report from the meeting.

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That was me. I'm current. For about three more weeks.

No one I've talked to in key leader positions for next year has heard anything since the initial news that caused all this.

That's what us old, cyncial zips think.

Wouldn't be the first time, make a policy that has a huge push back then back track some so you still get your way and the corps as a whole feels good it prevented worse.

Crickets chirping at the Trigon. Very disappointing.