*****Official Texas Rangers 2021-2022 Off Season Thread*****

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Yeah, I don't get the player's angle here. They are getting the minimum salaries they want, they are getting pre arb bonus pool that is a huge chunk, and the luxury tax threshold only impacts a couple of teams. They are about to stupidly miss paychecks they'll never recover
Grapesoda2525
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Nearly 100 days in and the sport is going to be severely damaged with everyday that goes by. The NFL is taking advantage by pretty much being a 12 month sport now a days with the draft, combine, free agency, and other stuff.
Quincey P. Morris
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Yep. The lack of awareness from both owners and players is astounding.
Quincey P. Morris
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And we're back. Looking forward to seeing if there are any more signings/trades.
Mr Gigem
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Matt Olson come on down
Trucker 96
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April 7 start, will make up the missed games and play 162. Players stayed out as long as they could without sacrificing paychecks.
Proposition Joe
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So just long enough for Rangers to lose O.D vs Yankees?
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Glad I have to eat my words from last night! I really thought this was going to be a protracted shut down. Looks like the Players Executive committee was 100% against the deal.

Looking forward to April 11 or so to see our new team!
Mr Gigem
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Well the players executive committee can suck my ass
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**** the Astros

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So begins the annual search. Does anyone know the cheapest provider/plan to stream Bally SW?
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So tickets already purchased are good for the days they were purchased for?
You do not have a soul. You are a soul that has a body.

We sing Hallelujah! The Lamb has overcome!
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BryanAggie2013 said:

So begins the annual search. Does anyone know the cheapest provider/plan to stream Bally SW?

Mlb66.ir
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investorAg83 said:

BryanAggie2013 said:

So begins the annual search. Does anyone know the cheapest provider/plan to stream Bally SW?

Mlb66.ir


This is how I watch.
Fuzzy Dunlop
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Mr Gigem, you gonna have any sweet deals for Opening Day against the Rockies?

Fuzzy Dunlop
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So let's discuss free agent/trade needs.

1. SP

Lots of people are saying Kershaw. (When I say lots of people, I'm talking about the media.) Not sure about this unless we get a good discount with some kind of performance incentives. He's only 33 (?) But he's got some mileage on the arm.

Is Sonny Gray still available? That would require a trade and IKF was rumored to be part of the deal. With Jung out, I'm not sure we can spare IKF. Maybe Wendzel is ready. Also Ibanez has shown some promise at least as a placeholder.

2. 1B

Everyone wants Olson. I'm good with that. We'd give up Lowe for Olson's power.

3. OF

Nick Castellanos is who I want. I wanted him when he signed with Cincy. We weren't shelling out the $$ at the time. Let's go get him.

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Fuzzy Dunlop said:

Mr Gigem, you gonna have any sweet deals for Opening Day against the Rockies?




Did you purchase OD tickets for the Yankees? If so, your tickets will be good for the new OD vs the Rockies. As far as deals go, I'm going to say probably not. That is the most guarded game of the all
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Mr Gigem said:

Fuzzy Dunlop said:

Mr Gigem, you gonna have any sweet deals for Opening Day against the Rockies?




Did you purchase OD tickets for the Yankees? If so, your tickets will be good for the new OD vs the Rockies. As far as deals go, I'm going to say probably not. That is the most guarded game of the all
I did not buy OD tickets as I had no faith that the game would be played. I'll go third-party like normal. Don't like it but it will be OK. Thanks for all you do!
Grapesoda2525
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Astros probably voted no because of the shift being banned. I think the shift is lame and not how baseball was intended to be played so good riddance.
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Mr Gigem said:

Did you purchase OD tickets for the Yankees? If so, your tickets will be good for the new OD vs the Rockies. As far as deals go, I'm going to say probably not. That is the most guarded game of the all
Do we know when the new OD is for sure? And are you thinking the Yankees series just gets tacked onto the end of the season?

The guys in my pool are anxious.
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4/11 vs Colorado will be the new home opener. Not sure yet where the Yankees games get added back into the schedule.
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https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2022/03/yankees-trade-rumors-matt-olson-rangers-athletics.html

Let's go!
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gigem1223 said:

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2022/03/yankees-trade-rumors-matt-olson-rangers-athletics.html

Let's go!
Who do we give up for Olson?

What do you think a package of:

Nick Solak (2B)
Nathaniel Lowe (1B)
Sam Huff (C/1B?) - #5 on prospect list and MLB ready (according to mlb.com timeline)
Justin Foscue (2B) - #4 on prospect list (AA)

I honestly have no idea and am throwing crap against the wall to see if it will stick, but we have some prospect capital to leverage since we have our middle infield lined out for the next 5 years at least. 4 of our top 10 prospects are middle infielders.

I'm sure everyone agrees that our top 3 are untouchable right now:

1. Jack Leiter (SP and potential future ace? in the next 2-4 years?)
2. Josh Jung (3B and starter in the next 1-2 years?)
3. Cole Winn (SP and potential future #2 or #3 in the next 1-2 years?)

Or do you think it will take IKF instead of Solak to get Olson and then we just bring up Jung and hope and pray he settles in at the start of this year?
gigem1223
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Jung will not be available till 2023 (surgery)

As much as I like Jung and his potential I'm getting the feeling he's going to be a player that battles health issues his whole career, so I may not be opposed to trading him. Assuming Olsen has an extension in place with the rangers, My initial offer for Olsen would be something like:

Lowe, Solak, Thompson, Foscue, Ragans
Fuzzy Dunlop
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Jung is out for at least 6 months with a torn labrum, he had surgery on Feb 23. Not sure we can let IKF go with that in mind. We do have Ibanez that could hold down 3B until Jung is ready.

Also, not sure we would give up that much for Olson. He has two years left until UFA. I'd give up Solak or Lowe and a minor league prospect or two. Keep Huff and use the remaining of Solak or Lowe to bolster the SP spot. Might get a 3 or 4 for one of them and some prospects.

What would we be willing to give up for Sonny Gray or another TOR SP?

I don't think the Rangers are in a win now position but we need to bring in some talent to get us to a win now position when some of our young SP are ready.
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gigem1223 said:

Jung will not be available till 2023 (surgery)

As much as I like Jung and his potential I'm getting the feeling he's going to be a player that battles health issues his whole career, so I may not be opposed to trading him. My initial offer for Olsen would be something like:

Lowe, Solak, Thompson, Foscue, Ragans

Can't believe I forgot that. Yup, you're right so I gotta think IKF is off the table.

I think that's a fair offer as hopefully we can keep Huff if we think he'll continue to develop and be our future starting catcher.
Quincey P. Morris
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It sounds like the Rangers aren't likely to make the move unless they're confident they can get an extension done.
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At least it feels like we're actually trying to build for something and have a plan. Midway through last year it felt like we were in a hopefully win in 5-7 years type of plan and maybe get lucky along the way with a decent run. Main word being hope as it didn't really feel like we had an actual plan.

Now it feels like a "let's set up now to win in 2-3 years". And that's not a "we're gonna suck for the next two years and make a run at the playoffs in 3". It's a "Let's get in the playoffs the next 1-2 years, and plan to make a deep run in 3".

With the restocking of our farm system the past year and a half and the free agent signings so far this winter, I have to give Chris Young an A- so far. A+ if we get Olson and Kershaw.
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With our first game being April 8th in Toronto, this will be interesting to see who can play for us. Unless Canada changes their policy, this could be quite the homefield advantage for the Jays depending on what players aren't vaccinated.

Fuzzy Dunlop
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I agree. I think we are making moves to set up for a playoff run in the next few years. I'm optimistic with our farm system and some of the moves we've made and the money we've spent that we'll be good in the next few years.
Quincey P. Morris
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Personally, I think they ought to tell them that they'll have to play stateside again if that regulation is in place.
Trucker 96
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Rangers need IKF and I think the Yankees will want someone with more controllable years
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Welcome back, Martin Perez
Trucker 96
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Interesting. At least he's a warm body that can eat some innings and keep you in games.
J.P. 03
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My hunch is it had been so long, JD forgot he had finally been given the green light to actually spend money, so as soon as the lockout ended and the free agent land rush started, his instincts kicked in and he raced straight to the pitcher bargain bin/scrap heap.
 
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