***** 2019-2020 San Antonio Spurs *****

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Enzo The Baker said:

And somehow the Spurs are 9th, only one game back from the 8th seed.
What's so frustrating is the inconsistency. Which is the real team? The one that puts up 72 in the first half or the one that scores 35 in the second half? It has been difficult to watch lately.
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s13fenton said:

The article talks about how Kawhi and Uncle Dennis (Robertson) attempted to leverage the Lakers and Clippers against each other to see who would give them the most. What they were asking for way overstepped the legal boundaries, but it sounded like Dennis either didn't know or didn't care.

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The stories about Robertson's wish list made their way to the league office soon after Leonard made his decision, with concerned parties reporting that Leonard's uncle had asked pursuing teams for much, much more than a max contract (Kawhi ultimately signed a three-year, $103 million deal with the Clippers). Sources say the league was told that Robertson asked team officials for part ownership of the team, a private plane that would be available at all times, a house and last but certainly not least a guaranteed amount of off-court endorsement money that they could expect if Leonard played for their team. All of those items, to be clear, would fall well outside the confines of the league's collective bargaining agreement.


The article later goes on to say that the Laker's executives including Buss believe that Kawhi was never really serious about going to the Lakers and only tried to use them as leverage.
Kawhi and Dennis should be banned from the league for life.
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Pop just needs to keep DeRozan off the floor the entire 4th quarter. Every game.
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Doncic looks like he's going to be a superstar. No doubt. However, is it necessary to have an orgasm every time he passes the ball to a wide open teammate? If this was the first game I've ever seen I'd think he invented basketball by the reaction of the broadcast crew.
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League has to do everything they can to get the ratings. Lots of superstars out this year. I don't mind it.
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Enzo The Baker said:

League has to do everything they can to get the ratings. Lots of superstars out this year. I don't mind it.


Meh. It's just boring to watch teams jack up 3s all game long. It looks like a YMCA out there at times. I'm not surprised ratings are down a bit. It is ironic that ratings are down at a time when the overall talent level is at an all time high.
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This team is such a drag. I would say that at least there is hope in our young players but even they are all disappointing. Blow it up. Don't give a damn about having a puncher's chance at the playoffs.
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Enzo The Baker said:

Pop just needs to retire.
fify.

Watching Marco, Forbes, and Mills get lit up by the Dallas backcourt (starters and reserves) while Lonnie rots on the end of the bench is an abomination.

Walker's going to be a great player for someone some day, not Pop (different team, or different Spurs coach).
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AG 2000' said:

Enzo The Baker said:

Pop just needs to retire.
fify.

Watching Marco, Forbes, and Mills get lit up by the Dallas backcourt (starters and reserves) while Lonnie rots on the end of the bench is an abomination.

Walker's going to be a great player for someone some day, not Pop (different team, or different Spurs coach).

The fact that Forbes continues to be a starter in the NBA is mind boggling. I don't give a damn about spacing. Dude is statistically (along with Marco/Patty/derozan) one of the worst defenders in the league.

wtf is it with Marco falling back into favor? I don't get it.

DeMar is a true 4th-5th best player in a first option body. Let's make a Dion Waiters + Whatever trade ASAP.

But yea Pop has dropped the ball this year.
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Enzo The Baker said:

AG 2000' said:

Enzo The Baker said:

Pop just needs to retire.
fify.

Watching Marco, Forbes, and Mills get lit up by the Dallas backcourt (starters and reserves) while Lonnie rots on the end of the bench is an abomination.

Walker's going to be a great player for someone some day, not Pop (different team, or different Spurs coach).

The fact that Forbes continues to be a starter in the NBA is mind boggling. I don't give a damn about spacing. Dude is statistically (along with Marco/Patty/derozan) one of the worst defenders in the league.

wtf is it with Marco falling back into favor? I don't get it.

DeMar is a true 4th-5th best player in a first option body. Let's make a Dion Waiters + Whatever trade ASAP.

But yea Pop has dropped the ball this year.


They did just hold Dallas to 102. Nobody was getting "torched". Overall the defense has been pretty good lately..
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This is kind of incredible. When DAntoni doesn't call his number

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What are we watching here and what does it have to do with Lonnie walker?
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Your San Antonio Spurs are 8th in the west. Never in doubt.
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Smart GM would cut him and give walker that money
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Tonight's win puts us a game up on Portland for the 8th seed.
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Greenberg says Pop will step down and Bill Self will take over

https://es.pn/2sBr0OA
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Guitarsoup said:

Greenberg says Pop will step down and Bill Self will take over

https://es.pn/2sBr0OA


Not a fan. Not sure who I'd want to replace Pop, but never liked Self much.
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Pop needs to start Walker in place of Forbes. He's done. Both he and Patty should get nothing but spot minutes on this team.
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Another blown lead
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Forbes and Mills both had rough nights - 2-17, 1-12 from 3 between the two of them. Tough to overcome.
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And the schedule only gets tougher this month.
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Enzo The Baker said:

Pop needs to start Walker in place of Forbes. He's done. Both he and Patty should get nothing but spot minutes on this team.


They were both really bad tonight, and I definitely agree that Forbes needs his minutes cut back. Patty has been good this season coming off the bench.
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Patty got off to a good start but he has leveled off lately. His avg stats really aren't far off from last year. Still a massive defensive liability.
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Enzo The Baker said:

Patty got off to a good start but he has leveled off lately. His avg stats really aren't far off from last year. Still a massive defensive liability.


He is, but you gotta get those minutes from someone. It's one thing to cut one their minutes significantly (Forbes) and play Walker more, but if you cut Patty's too, who would you play there? Patty still brings more to the floor than Forbes, even when he's not hitting his shots because he handles the ball and is a much better passer.

It's not ideal, but it's what we got.
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I agree that our options are limited. That's why I think some moves need to be made.

It's still bizarre that Carroll isn't getting minutes. Not that he has necessarily shown much anyways.
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Enzo The Baker said:

I agree that our options are limited. That's why I think some moves need to be made.

It's still bizarre that Carroll isn't getting minutes. Not that he has necessarily shown much anyways.


Yeah don't know why Demarre hasn't even really gotten a shot. I do think Lonnie will continue to get more and more minutes as the season progresses.
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Looks like the Lakers may be shopping Kuzma. Any thoughts on if the Spurs would have interest? Pop is apparently a fan of him due to his performance during Team USA, and the Lakers (Lebron) might have some interest in teaming up with someone like Derozan. No idea how the money would work, but Kuzma is owed only $1.9M this year and $3.5M for next year.

Edit to add that the Spurs were eyeing him when he was coming out of Utah, and according to Kuzma the two sides had good chemistry during his draft process.
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s13fenton said:

Looks like the Lakers may be shopping Kuzma. Any thoughts on if the Spurs would have interest? Pop is apparently a fan of him due to his performance during Team USA, and the Lakers (Lebron) might have some interest in teaming up with someone like Derozan. No idea how the money would work, but Kuzma is owed only $1.9M this year and $3.5M for next year.

Edit to add that the Spurs were eyeing him when he was coming out of Utah, and according to Kuzma the two sides had good chemistry during his draft process.


I'd love to swap Demar for Kuzma, but Demar is making about the same amount as Anthony Davis. Really hard to make the money work on that.
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I just realized Walker started last night.
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Don't think the Lakers are really shopping Kuz.

Kuz makes under 2mm and the only player that makes over 5mm that isn't Bron/Davis is Danny Green.

Kuz+Green could get you back about 20mm in salary, but Green would be a really tough rotational piece to lose. They lack quality shooting and certainly don't want to lose a great defensive wing along with their most prolific 3pt shooter. Yep, Green leads the Lakers in 3 pointers made.

But anyway, Patty+Carroll gets Green+Kuz done. Get it Pop!
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Ag Natural said:

I just realized Walker started last night.


I must have missed this breaking news during the Pats game
Did they break in mid play?
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Davis Bertans on the trade block after a great first half. 45/43/90 for 15/5 in 30mpg. Sure am glad we let him walk so we could sign DeMarrree Carroll.

Pistons trying to move Andre Drummond for cap space. DeRozan straight up works. They have almost the same salary.

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Guitarsoup said:

Davis Bertans on the trade block after a great first half. 45/43/90 for 15/5 in 30mpg. Sure am glad we let him walk so we could sign DeMarrree Carroll.

Pistons trying to move Andre Drummond for cap space. DeRozan straight up works. They have almost the same salary.



To be fair, we traded Bertans so we could sign Marcus Morris, who then reneged and left us to sign Lyles instead.
 
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