Good deal for 2.4. Hopefully he knows his role.

All in all, I don't see a downside. I'm not super convinced he will work out with the system, but after seeing Paul prove everyone wrong, I won't be surprised to see Melo do it as well. There is something to be said for an aging allstar without a ring finally being on a real champion contender.

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Reports out there that he will sign for the vet minimum 2.4 million

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If everything works out great and Melo fits in perfectly, what can we offer him next year? (Asking the board, not you specifically)

Farmer1906 said:

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CFTXAG10 said:

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Reports out there that he will sign for the vet minimum 2.4 million

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If everything works out great and Melo fits in perfectly, what can we offer him next year? (Asking the board, not you specifically)

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Edit to add: Taxpayer MLE is projected around 5.7 million

So basically we have him for a year, then he's on to LA?

Damned if we do, damned if we don't, so why not

We have a lot of options on what line up we run out.

Don't think we use a roster spot on House. But for the most part, I agree.

Hopefully we can land a tall wing defender at the trade deadline this year.

Finally getting Carmelo after pursuing him on 3 different offseasons.

Hickory High said:

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Don't think we use a roster spot on House. But for the most part, I agree.

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A 2-way would make more sense I think

Farmer1906 said:

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We have a lot of options on what line up we run out.

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The "Warrior Beater" lineup probably looks like this :

CP3 - Steph
Harden - Klay
Gordon - Iggy
Ennis - Durant
Tucker - Draymond

Carmelo could come off the bench anywhere from 3-5.... depending on what level of defense he shows over the course of the season.

I don't think the Warriors can use a lot of Cousins against us. Their whole "switch everything" defense would go out the window and their offense would slow down in a major way if they have to dump it into the post over and over again.

The more I think about it the more I think Melo can work out here. Hopefully he is in the gym right now working on his 3 pointer and trying to figure out how to not be selfish for the first time in his career.

I've been a Melo hater for a while, but I firmly maintain that Coach Pringles, Harden, and CP3 deserve the benefit of the doubt to be able to fix anyone. If he doesn't work out here, he won't work out anywhere.

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The more I think about it the more I think Melo can work out here. Hopefully he is in the gym right now working on his 3 pointer and trying to figure out how to not be selfish for the first time in his career.

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WES2006AG said:

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The more I think about it the more I think Melo can work out here. Hopefully he is in the gym right now working on his 3 pointer and trying to figure out how to not be selfish for the first time in his career.

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See my post above you.rs

Don't underestimate the effect those three guys can have on Melo's mentality.

Wonder what the change was when we signed Paul.

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Thats laughably low considering there's only 3 teams imo that have a realistic shot at the title next year. The media is way overplaying the loss of Ariza and Luc (who didn't even play in the playoffs).

Oh and the same folks think the Rockets have a 53 win total and 65% chance at division title. Give me that win total as a betting line and I'll easily take the over.

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PhatMack19 said:

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Thats laughably low considering there's only 3 teams imo that have a realistic shot at the title next year. The media is way overplaying the loss of Ariza and Luc (who didn't even play in the playoffs).

Oh and the same folks think the Rockets have a 53 win total and 65% chance at division title. Give me that win total as a betting line and I'll easily take the over.

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It's nuts to think replacing Ariza/Luc with Melo/Ennis will cost the Rockets 12 games.

I don't think it's as simple as that. You have Harden coming off an MVP season, CP another year older, a potentially unhappy Capela, the defense will surely take a step back and the West as a whole is stronger. San Antonio is better, Lakers are better. I see us winning closer to 55. Which is still above the 53 win mark someone mentioned above.

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I don't think it's as simple as that. You have Harden coming off an MVP season, CP another year older, a potentially unhappy Capela, the defense will surely take a step back and the West as a whole is stronger. San Antonio is better, Lakers are better. I see us winning closer to 55. Which is still above the 53 win mark someone mentioned above.

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Can't agree with this.

Texan_Aggie said:

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k20dub said:

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I don't think it's as simple as that. You have Harden coming off an MVP season, CP another year older, a potentially unhappy Capela, the defense will surely take a step back and the West as a whole is stronger. San Antonio is better, Lakers are better. I see us winning closer to 55. Which is still above the 53 win mark someone mentioned above.

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Can't agree with this.

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San Antonio is definitely better than last year. Not as good as two years ago. From last year they basically replaced Tony Parker, Kyle Anderson, and Joffery Lasomething with DeMar DeRozan, Marco Belinelli, and Jakob Poeltl.

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Texan_Aggie said:

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k20dub said:

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I don't think it's as simple as that. You have Harden coming off an MVP season, CP another year older, a potentially unhappy Capela, the defense will surely take a step back and the West as a whole is stronger. San Antonio is better, Lakers are better. I see us winning closer to 55. Which is still above the 53 win mark someone mentioned above.

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Can't agree with this.

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San Antonio is definitely better than last year. Not as good as two years ago. From last year they basically replaced Tony Parker, Kyle Anderson, and Joffery Lasomething with DeMar DeRozan, Marco Belinelli, and Jakob Poeltl.

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To be fair, you're also a Spurs fan...

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Guitarsoup said:

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Texan_Aggie said:

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k20dub said:

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I don't think it's as simple as that. You have Harden coming off an MVP season, CP another year older, a potentially unhappy Capela, the defense will surely take a step back and the West as a whole is stronger. San Antonio is better, Lakers are better. I see us winning closer to 55. Which is still above the 53 win mark someone mentioned above.

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Can't agree with this.

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San Antonio is definitely better than last year. Not as good as two years ago. From last year they basically replaced Tony Parker, Kyle Anderson, and Joffery Lasomething with DeMar DeRozan, Marco Belinelli, and Jakob Poeltl.

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To be fair, you're also a Spurs fan...

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That's true, so which would you rather have? (Sorry, forgot about Green)

Parker (7.7p/3.5a)
Green (8.6p/3.6r .387/.363 FG/3FG%)
Anderson (7.9p/5.4r/2.7a)
Joffery (4.1p/3.1r)

or

DeRozan (23p/5.2a/3.9r)
Belinelli (13.6p/.385 3fg%)
Poeltl (6.9p/4.8r)
Dante Cunningham (5.7p/4.1r)

I didn't include draft pick Lonnie Walker because he will likely spend a lot of time in GLeague, but Derrick White will probably play most of his minutes in the NBA after having a pretty impressive G League season - part of the reason the Spurs let Parker go.

I don't think the Spurs will challenge or even scare anyone for a title, but I can't say how you can see the transactions and say the Spurs didn't get better from last year considering Kawhi didn't add anything at all all.

Spurs definitely improved, but not enough to be top two seed in either conference without major injuries.

uhmmmm I'd rather have Kawhi Leonard.

Hickory High said:

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uhmmmm I'd rather have Kawhi Leonard.

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2017 Kawhi or 2018 Kawhi.

Because one of those was great and one decided not to show up.

So like I said, Spurs will be better than last year, but not as good as two years ago. Pretty fair assessment?

I think they're likely anywhere from 3-6 in the west. Problem is that there's really not much floor spacing or perimeter defense in their starting lineup. I also feel like they needed a rebuild rather than adding Derozan. If were them I would've gotten prospects/picks in a Leonard trade instead.

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I think they're likely anywhere from 3-6 in the west. Problem is that there's really not much floor spacing or perimeter defense in their starting lineup. I also feel like they needed a rebuild rather than adding Derozan. If were them I would've gotten prospects/picks in a Leonard trade instead.

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Not sure there were a lot of prospects on the table. The Lakers wouldn't include Ingram, so it was basically Kuzma+Deng's horrible contract+bad picks for Kawhi. Philly wouldn't include anything over than Covington+Saric+picks.

They can always flip DeRozan for prospects in the next two years if they want.

I agree on the rebuild, and this feels like delaying the inevitable, but I also understand Pop is ~70 and probably doesn't want to go out on a rebuild. At least now the Spurs have two All-NBA players from last year and some young players around them.

Floor spacing actually got better from last year, which was dreadful and among the worst in the NBA.

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k20dub said:

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I don't think it's as simple as that. You have Harden coming off an MVP season, CP another year older, a potentially unhappy Capela, the defense will surely take a step back and the West as a whole is stronger. San Antonio is better, Lakers are better. I see us winning closer to 55. Which is still above the 53 win mark someone mentioned above.

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Can't agree with this.

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Is the west stronger? Probably, but only the Lakers (I doubt it) have a shot of catching Houston. Maybe we win fewer games, but ultimately it is about having a high-level product to coast through rounds 1 and 2 and challenging GSW.

I read that the Lakers had a 'Godfather' offer on the table before LeBron opted out. Apparently the offer was Kuzma, Ingram, Hart, Suns 2019 1st round pick (Lonzo going to PHX). They took it off the table after he opted out but this deal is much better than the Raptors one IMO. Popovich apparently also had no intention of trading with LAL for whatever reason.

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I read that the Lakers had a 'Godfather' offer on the table before LeBron opted out. Apparently the offer was Kuzma, Ingram, Hart, Suns 2019 1st round pick (Lonzo going to PHX). They took it off the table after he opted out but this deal is much better than the Raptors one IMO. Popovich apparently also had no intention of trading with LAL for whatever reason.

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Nope. Ingram was never offered. He was always off limits. I would have taken that deal, too.

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Hickory High said:

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uhmmmm I'd rather have Kawhi Leonard.

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2017 Kawhi or 2018 Kawhi.

Because one of those was great and one decided not to show up.

So like I said, Spurs will be better than last year, but not as good as two years ago. Pretty fair assessment?

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Fair, but making the playoffs as a 6th seed is "better" than last year.

Texan_Aggie said:

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Guitarsoup said:

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Hickory High said:

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uhmmmm I'd rather have Kawhi Leonard.

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2017 Kawhi or 2018 Kawhi.

Because one of those was great and one decided not to show up.

So like I said, Spurs will be better than last year, but not as good as two years ago. Pretty fair assessment?

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Fair, but making the playoffs as a 6th seed is "better" than last year.

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The 3rd Seed was a 49 win team. The 8th seed was a 47 win team. After the top tier of teams (Warriors, Rockets), the middle class of teams were essentially the same.

The only other tier in that middle tier that made upgrades is Denver by adding Michael Porter and Isaiah Thomas for Wilson Chandler.

I don't think anyone in the 3rd-10th spots made moves that could challenge a healthy Houston or Golden State.