* Liverpool 2026-2027 thread *

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Tksymm7
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It's a tough question, but honestly, a lot of this traces back to Klopp. When a manager stays for a decade, the squad is built specifically for their system. Switching to a new coach with a different formation is bound to cause friction.

Right now, we're forcing square pegs into round holes specifically in midfield. Slot and Iraola prefer a 4-2-3-1, but a successful double pivot needs complete, highly intelligent central midfielders like Modri, Kroos, or Busquets who can dictate play and cover defensively.

Mac Allister is the closest we have, but he lacks physical presence and positional consistency. Everyone else is either an attack-minded midfielder (Wirtz, Dom, Gravenberch) or an anchor like Nyoni. Forcing them into a double pivot creates imbalance because we lack genuine controllers or elite passers.

Reverting to a 4-3-3 makes more sense. Having one dedicated No. 6 sit and sweep lets two aggressive No. 8s press freely, giving players defined roles that maximize their strengths. It also helps physically balance the team, because it gives you one midfielder on either side of the pitch to support play, whereas now it feels like Wirtz is having to pick up the ball deep, or when he does get the ball quickly it's him and two other guys. In a 4-3-3 I feel like there would be more options ahead of him or whoever the other No. 8 was.

So in short yes to some extent I think you can absolutely blame the recruitment team for not getting guys who fit the system more; but on the other hand we have so many midfielders who don't fit the 4-2-3-1 I think the coach should adjust more. We cannot jettison every single midfielder.
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In the most recent episode of The Anfield Wrap "Trends," Neil Atkinson and Josh Williams discuss more of the X's and O's of the midfield and what plagues them right now, and as we have discussed numerous times, it's the Wirtz/Szoboszlai/Gravenberch conundrum.

A key takeaway was the idea that Wirtz needs to take a page out of Mo Salah's playbook: stop tracking all the way back, stay high, and embrace the "I'm the superstar, get me the ball here" mentality. They also broke down how Szoboszlai does so many things well, but those traits don't translate to playing as an out-and-out No. 10, leaving him and Gravenberch badly mismatched.

I completely agree specifically regarding Wirtz. He needs to be a bit more selfish and less of a workhorse. Running all over the pitch to press, defend, and collect the ball deep is completely gassing him by the end of halves or the 65th minute. The stats back it up, too: he's running more than anyone else on the team per 90 minutes, and I think it's hard to ask someone to be skilled at the highest level but to also put forth the most physical exertion. Those things just do not go super well in my opinion.
hoosierAG
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Agree 100% on the last few posts. Kudos to the defense, complete turnaround after the first couple games. Before the stupid red card, you could argue they were the better team. No idea if we would have won, lost or tied that game but I liked our chances to at least tie. Overall, really thought with Iraola's style of play we would be the opposite of what we are and we would score more but give up more.

Saw a graph that showed Liverpool dead last in the PL with big chances created at 9. Brighton leads with 27. They also have the least amount of goals in the top 13 teams. We all know our attack is not working as stated in the above posts...just didn't realize it was that bad.

Way, way, way too soon, but there was always some concern with Barcola here. He is not on a wide open, best team in the world while playing in a crap league anymore. PL and other Liverpool shortcomings have muted his strengths. But again, he is only a few games in and think he will get his footings.

Wirtz, on the other hand, is 50 games in with 2 different mgrs and it's still not working. There is no doubt there is a not utilizing him correctly aspect, but the PL is not for him. Too small and is completely run over most times while pressing/forcing bad decisions and passes. It's at the point that when Isak, Szo, and Gakpo are back I would drop him. Grav needs to be doing what he was doing on Sunday, he was arguably the best player on the pitch and looked like 2024/2025 Grav.

Tksymm7
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I am not out on Wirtz yet, but I do think it's to a point where you need to be rotating him in and out of the team if he's not making an impact. Then when Ekitike gets back it's really putting his feet to the fire. I still think there's a good player there, I just don't think we can be wasting a bunch of time trying to get him there anymore. He and the coaching staff have got the rest of October, November, December and then part of January I'd guess until Ekitike is back to truly figure it out. If he's still struggling by then I don't think there's much of a place for him in the squad week in and week out.

ETA: I am also not a believer in Szoboszlai in the No. 10, so we are in between a rock in a hard place in my mind.
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Tksymm7
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Wild lineup today (I don't hate it though):

Alisson
Jacquet
Wirtz
Tsimikas
Barcola
Frimpong
Araujo
Gravenberch
Nyoni
Koumas
Ngumoha
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I'll say it again, what a pickup Araujo was.
hoosierAG
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And Barcola with his first! And nice drive by Rio and then a sweet kick out assist by Koumas
Tx_Aggie15
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Well this lineup is producing pretty well
Tksymm7
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Lask is not good, but this is nice to see.
Tx_Aggie15
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Agreed but we sure need a confidence boost as a squad
Tksymm7
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Couldn't agree more. Sometimes just getting to play a real game where you are reminded that you can play fast and free in attack is all you need.
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Barcola is putting together a very nice performance today
Tksymm7
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Oh my god the Wirtz and Barcola connection is GROSS hahahaha
Tksymm7
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TOUUUUGGGHHHH look when Frimpong is dunking on you scoring headers...
hoosierAG
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Hat trick for Barcola
Tksymm7
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I mean generational game from Frimpong?
hoosierAG
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Truth
hoosierAG
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Koumas earned that ....he is a couple feet off from having his own hat trick.
Tksymm7
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Hate to give that one up, but its not unexpected. Liverpool look a little checked out, the midfielders in particular.
Tksymm7
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Just absolutely asleep at the wheel right now. Snoozing.
hoosierAG
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Yeesh...giving up 3 is not ideal but they are definitely just cruising.
Tksymm7
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I don't love bringing on two new CBs either. One, sure. But both? They're just not in the game whatsoever.
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Glad for the win and the goals. Good start to Champions League.
Tksymm7
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Fotmob of the game. Feels pretty accurate to the eye-test. I thought Nyoni and Ngumoha really faded in the second half and were a big reason Lask had so much success down that side.
hoosierAG
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Man Cheaters getting rolled ....3-0 in 31 minutes and should easily be 4-0

PSG is unreal
 
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