Manchester United 2021-22 Thread

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Mathguy64
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On separate news DVB is officially on loan to Everton.
Dre_00
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Thunder18 said:

What a freaking scumbag

I feel physically ill having ever cheered one of his goals. **** that guy.
Mathguy64
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This day keeps on giving.

We agreed to loan Jones to Bordeaux and they agreed on terms. And Jones refused due to a lack of PT commitment.

I guess he's ok with "none" here?
Dre_00
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I'd rather get no PT in my home country than be away from my family/move them and get no PT in a different country.

Glad DvB got a loan move. Everton apparently wanted an option to buy but United refused. Not because I think they'll actually play him if he returns after a successful stint but rather because I imagine that will go into their super duper transfer algorithm which will place an 80 million GBP price tag on him that no one will pay so he can rot on the bench again.
Dre_00
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Rangnick has once again given Lingard his blessing to leave but I highly doubt the board will allow him to go to West Ham and they probably don't want to help Newcastle stay up.
ChipFTAC01
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I get west ham from a competitive top 4/top 6 but why Newcastle? Just to try and hamper them before try go all petri dollar everywhere?
wangus12
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I think everyone would like to see the new oil baby get relegated this year.
ChipFTAC01
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wangus12 said:

I think everyone would like to see the new oil baby get relegated this year.


Oh I certainly want to see Newcastle get dropped but I guess I hadn't thought about teams' boards being as petty as me.
Dre_00
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Newcastle will, eventually, be yet another team that United has to fight to get top 4. If Newcastle gets relegated, it will delay when that happens by at least a year. Also, I think there's an element of United doing to others what everyone has always done to them "Oh you want one of my players? Then allow me to add a lot of zeros behind my asking price. I know you can afford it."
Mathguy64
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There is a lot of that going around. It seems half the players out there have release clauses of $75mm or higher and teams just say "pay and he's yours". The release clause and the players ability have no correlation.
ChipFTAC01
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Dre_00 said:

Newcastle will, eventually, be yet another team that United has to fight to get top 4. If Newcastle gets relegated, it will delay when that happens by at least a year. Also, I think there's an element of United doing to others what everyone has always done to them "Oh you want one of my players? Then allow me to add a lot of zeros behind my asking price. I know you can afford it."
Dre_00
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United is supposedly demanding a survival clause in Lingard's loan contract to Newcastle. If Newcastle stay up, they owe United 12 million GBP...regardless of how Lingard performs. I've not heard of a clause like that before but I think it's hilarious and absolutely love it.
Furlock Bones
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Sounds like J-Lingz ain't going anywhere. Sucks for him. But probably the right move for United.
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#FreeJLingz
Thunder18
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At this point we kinda need him with Martial, Amad, Pellistri all loaned out and Greenwood looking at legal issues. Cavani, Rashford and Sancho have all had injury issues and Jesse can cover a number of positions in the attack
Dre_00
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Yeah I thought it was a little strange that Rangnick gave him his blessing. Not counting Lingard there are...3 recognized wide forwards/wingers? (Rashford, Sancho, Elanga) I don't think Lingard's best position is out wide but I think he can play there. And I'd rather see him there than 37 year old Ronaldo.

Either that or Rangnick is going to go back to his 4-2-2-2 or maybe a 5-3-2.
Furlock Bones
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So the only thing I can figure with United on the valuation front is that they are a corporation and corporations are loath to take actual losses and write downs. So instead they'd rather just let a contract run out. A regular person says this is an unneeded part. If i can cover some of what I've spent, that's better than nothing. Companies don't necessarily operate on that mindset.

I really don't like Roman A. But part of me is a little jealous in that the guy cares about winning at almost any cost.
Dre_00
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Yeah, I'm pretty sure you're correct. Bringing elements of typical business management isn't necessarily a bad thing but doing so exclusively with a roster of players is just not smart.

I mean, United have pretty much said that they primarily bought VdB because he represented "good value". That's all well and good if you're buying an asset or a stock but a pretty horrible way of building a team.
Mathguy64
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Things are now worse for Greenwood. The police have been granted extra time to hold him for the investigation and he's now arrested for assault and a threat to kill.
Furlock Bones
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Mathguy64 said:

Things are now worse for Greenwood. The police have been granted extra time to hold him for the investigation and he's now arrested for assault and a threat to kill.



Ugh. I don't want this to be real. But it sound is sounding more and more like he's a true piece of crap.
Dre_00
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FA Cup tonight against Middlesborough and it sounds like Pogba will start in midfield. My guess is with McTominay. I'd expect a fairly strong lineup...Ronaldo up front with Sanco on the right and Elanga/Rashford on the left.
Mathguy64
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The club has announced they will exchange a Greenwood jersey for any other jersey at no cost. It doesn't matter where you got it or how old it is.

That's a distancing move if I ever saw one.
Mathguy64
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Dre_00 said:

FA Cup tonight against Middlesborough and it sounds like Pogba will start in midfield. My guess is with McTominay. I'd expect a fairly strong lineup...Ronaldo up front with Sanco on the right and Elanga/Rashford on the left.
It's time Pogba started playing. Raiola can't get paid in the summer if Pogba doesn't start playing now.
akm91
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Mathguy64 said:

The club has announced they will exchange a Greenwood jersey for any other jersey at no cost. It doesn't matter where you got it or how old it is.

That's a distancing move if I ever saw one.
That stance doesn't seem to bode well for Greenwood. Wonder if ManU has some inside info on the investigation.
"And liberals, being liberals, will double down on failure." - dedgod
ChipFTAC01
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Mathguy64 said:

The club has announced they will exchange a Greenwood jersey for any other jersey at no cost. It doesn't matter where you got it or how old it is.

That's a distancing move if I ever saw one.


Wow
Aston94
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akm91 said:

Mathguy64 said:

The club has announced they will exchange a Greenwood jersey for any other jersey at no cost. It doesn't matter where you got it or how old it is.

That's a distancing move if I ever saw one.
That stance doesn't seem to bode well for Greenwood. Wonder if ManU has some inside info on the investigation.
You wonder?

It's Manchester and its Manchester United. Of course they have inside information.


I doubt you will ever see Greenwood on a soccer field again that isn't behind prison bars.
Aston94
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Dre_00 said:

FA Cup tonight against Middlesborough and it sounds like Pogba will start in midfield. My guess is with McTominay. I'd expect a fairly strong lineup...Ronaldo up front with Sanco on the right and Elanga/Rashford on the left.


I forgot Pogba was on the team.


This is why you don't overplay players. Unbelievable. He is so talented but just cannot keep his head in it. But given the summer market and a WC this next fall I am sure it is time for a 12 month window of Pogba giving a damn. Maybe we benefit from that for the next 3-4 months.
Dre_00
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Fun fact: Mino Raiola went to high school about 1/4 mile from where I live. I didn't even know the guy was Dutch let alone that he grew up where I moved to.
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Aston94 said:

akm91 said:

Mathguy64 said:

The club has announced they will exchange a Greenwood jersey for any other jersey at no cost. It doesn't matter where you got it or how old it is.

That's a distancing move if I ever saw one.
That stance doesn't seem to bode well for Greenwood. Wonder if ManU has some inside info on the investigation.
You wonder?

It's Manchester and its Manchester United. Of course they have inside information.


I doubt you will ever see Greenwood on a soccer field again that isn't behind prison bars.
Good. **** that guy.
Dre_00
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It is indeed a strong lineup. Rashford starts on the left. Henderson in at goal. Other than that, it's pretty much first choice.

Hannibal Mejbri made the bench. The Tunisian Donny van de Beek?
Thunder18
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We should've scored 4-5 goals in the 1st half
Thunder18
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Another missed opportunity. Goodness
Thunder18
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Tie game off a STONEWALL handball that apparently isn't a handball bc of changes to interpretations of the rule
Thunder18
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This team has serious mental issues to work out, missing wide open goals. Just unbelievable
Dre_00
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The fact that "accidental" is even in the rule book is laughable. Like a ref can accurately judge intent.
 
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