Rule 1.
FIFA Women's World Cup
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But yeah, I saw it.
My two complaints about the team have been..... I think carli Lloyd should've got more playing time. She just scores goals. She's a machine.littlebitofhifi said:
Ok last post from me tonight (I promise!) but this Behind the Crest has me so stoked. 17.5 hours until kickoff!!
I think we like to sit on leads a little too much. I'd try to get a 2 goal lead before reverting to defensive formations, but we've been winning so I can't complain too much I guess. Just my opinions.
I completely agree with both of those statements.
Well damn, Rule 1 for those that didn't see it!I Am Mine said:
But yeah, I saw it.
"And liberals, being liberals, will double down on failure." - dedgod
Really enjoyed everyone's commentary during the tournament (even when it got testy) this month. Felt like a good mix of young, old, casual, and serious fans. Glad to see so many people actively following the women's game and supporting a consistently great US team.
I'll be back in time for the olympics.Hand Of God said:
Really enjoyed everyone's commentary during the tournament (even when it got testy) this month. Felt like a good mix of young, old, casual, and serious fans. Glad to see so many people actively following the women's game and supporting a consistently great US team.
The men's team is so incompetent that I don't think they're worth watching. It's inexcusable that we can't put up at least a somewhat competitive team with our resources.
Grapesoda2525 said:I'll be back in time for the olympics.Hand Of God said:
Really enjoyed everyone's commentary during the tournament (even when it got testy) this month. Felt like a good mix of young, old, casual, and serious fans. Glad to see so many people actively following the women's game and supporting a consistently great US team.
The men's team is so incompetent that I don't think they're worth watching. It's inexcusable that we can't put up at least a somewhat competitive team with our resources.
Bro, do you even Gold Cup? We're in the final tonight! I mean, there was no excuse for not making 2018, but this comment is ill-timed!
dont be that person here, you do it at the Mavs alreadyGrapesoda2525 said:I'll be back in time for the olympics.Hand Of God said:
Really enjoyed everyone's commentary during the tournament (even when it got testy) this month. Felt like a good mix of young, old, casual, and serious fans. Glad to see so many people actively following the women's game and supporting a consistently great US team.
The men's team is so incompetent that I don't think they're worth watching. It's inexcusable that we can't put up at least a somewhat competitive team with our resources.
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Grapesoda2525 said:I'll be back in time for the olympics.Hand Of God said:
Really enjoyed everyone's commentary during the tournament (even when it got testy) this month. Felt like a good mix of young, old, casual, and serious fans. Glad to see so many people actively following the women's game and supporting a consistently great US team.
The men's team is so incompetent that I don't think they're worth watching. It's inexcusable that we can't put up at least a somewhat competitive team with our resources.
Almost complete turnover with the team and we are in finals tonight. Quit smoking weed and pay attention!
Excuse my ignorance, but does this tournament even mean anything?YouBet said:Grapesoda2525 said:I'll be back in time for the olympics.Hand Of God said:
Really enjoyed everyone's commentary during the tournament (even when it got testy) this month. Felt like a good mix of young, old, casual, and serious fans. Glad to see so many people actively following the women's game and supporting a consistently great US team.
The men's team is so incompetent that I don't think they're worth watching. It's inexcusable that we can't put up at least a somewhat competitive team with our resources.
Almost complete turnover with the team and we are in finals tonight. Quit smoking weed and pay attention!
The only big ticket events in soccer seem to be the olympics and the World Cup.
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Grapesoda2525 said:Excuse my ignorance, but does this tournament even mean anything?YouBet said:Grapesoda2525 said:I'll be back in time for the olympics.Hand Of God said:
Really enjoyed everyone's commentary during the tournament (even when it got testy) this month. Felt like a good mix of young, old, casual, and serious fans. Glad to see so many people actively following the women's game and supporting a consistently great US team.
The men's team is so incompetent that I don't think they're worth watching. It's inexcusable that we can't put up at least a somewhat competitive team with our resources.
Almost complete turnover with the team and we are in finals tonight. Quit smoking weed and pay attention!
The only big ticket events in soccer seem to be the olympics and the World Cup.
We are playing our arch enemy from a rival perspective. Even a friendly matters when we play Mexico and this is pretty relevant from a tourney standpoint.
It's called sports! Get on the train!
Very Interesting article about Megan Raipnoe's brother
https://www.espn.com/soccer/fifa-womens-world-cup/story/3878587/why-megan-rapinoes-brotherbrianis-her-greatest-heartbreakand-hope
https://www.espn.com/soccer/fifa-womens-world-cup/story/3878587/why-megan-rapinoes-brotherbrianis-her-greatest-heartbreakand-hope
She wished him happy birthday in her post-match interview. Hope he got to watch.
Grapesoda2525 said:I'll be back in time for the olympics.Hand Of God said:
Really enjoyed everyone's commentary during the tournament (even when it got testy) this month. Felt like a good mix of young, old, casual, and serious fans. Glad to see so many people actively following the women's game and supporting a consistently great US team.
The men's team is so incompetent that I don't think they're worth watching. It's inexcusable that we can't put up at least a somewhat competitive team with our resources.
Guess that nike commercial didnt really speak to you
Grapesoda2525 said:Excuse my ignorance, but does this tournament even mean anything?YouBet said:Grapesoda2525 said:I'll be back in time for the olympics.Hand Of God said:
Really enjoyed everyone's commentary during the tournament (even when it got testy) this month. Felt like a good mix of young, old, casual, and serious fans. Glad to see so many people actively following the women's game and supporting a consistently great US team.
The men's team is so incompetent that I don't think they're worth watching. It's inexcusable that we can't put up at least a somewhat competitive team with our resources.
Almost complete turnover with the team and we are in finals tonight. Quit smoking weed and pay attention!
The only big ticket events in soccer seem to be the olympics and the World Cup.
True in women's soccer.
World Cup is the biggest thing in men's but the Olympics are not a major tourney. As far as worldwide attention I'd say it's
- World Cup
- UEFA Champions League
- Major European league championships
- European Championships
- Copa America
- Other federation championships including the Gold Cup
Like all sane individuals, I've been doing a full rewatch of every US match now that I'm back stateside (all matches on demand on Fox app if folks are interested).
I'm currently in the 51st minute of the France quarterfinal and am glad to be able to watch this one without the gut-wrenching nervousness I had in the stadium.
Anyways, only point I wanted to make is that 4.5 matches in, I don't think any of us spent enough time acknowledging Dahlkemper's performance this tournament. I remember a few kudos, but seriously she has been absolutely lock down both in her own defending and in positioning the rest of the backline. Looking forward to many more years of her anchoring.
I'm currently in the 51st minute of the France quarterfinal and am glad to be able to watch this one without the gut-wrenching nervousness I had in the stadium.
Anyways, only point I wanted to make is that 4.5 matches in, I don't think any of us spent enough time acknowledging Dahlkemper's performance this tournament. I remember a few kudos, but seriously she has been absolutely lock down both in her own defending and in positioning the rest of the backline. Looking forward to many more years of her anchoring.
I became a huge fan of Dahlkemper as the tournament went on. In many respects.
I'll pass it on. I see her dad once a year.
He's still in the Bay Area? I know that's where she grew up, in Menlo Park.
"And liberals, being liberals, will double down on failure." - dedgod
They have to play the "court of public opinion" card because the math, logic, reason and facts don't back them up. Their response is just lawyer jargon with no numbers.
Of course it makes sense to include the NWSL salaries as that's part of the entire compensation package.
Funny how apparently the USSF claim supposedly lacks context yet the USWNT claim apparently never did.
Of course it makes sense to include the NWSL salaries as that's part of the entire compensation package.
Funny how apparently the USSF claim supposedly lacks context yet the USWNT claim apparently never did.
I couldn't stop laughing when I saw this earlier but the more I read the more it angers me. I'm all for people fighting to make more money. We all do it and it's our right to do so...but when you're just *****ing to ***** and you use the court of public opinion to coerce your employer to pay you more, I have no patience for it. I will never root for that bunch again.
They're just a bunch of idiots trying to pull the wool over everyone's eyes and the numbers show they're liars. To hell with that bunch.
They're just a bunch of idiots trying to pull the wool over everyone's eyes and the numbers show they're liars. To hell with that bunch.
I would love for some of the media to have the journalistic integrity to present this information. Unfortunately, even if they were in fact completely neutral in their presentation, the idiots of the public would just call them sexist in an attempt to discredit them.TheMasterplan said:
They have to play the "court of public opinion" card because the math, logic, reason and facts don't back them up. Their response is just lawyer jargon with no numbers.
Of course it makes sense to include the NWSL salaries as that's part of the entire compensation package.
Funny how apparently the USSF claim supposedly lacks context yet the USWNT claim apparently never did.
So aren't they really mad at FIFA for having a significantly smaller prize pool for the women vs the men (because of the money generated by the events) and are just trying to use the #metoo movement and court of public opinion to get US Soccer to pay them even more?
I hope the arbitrator sees it for what it is, but that's doubtful
I hope the arbitrator sees it for what it is, but that's doubtful
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So aren't they really mad at FIFA for having a significantly smaller prize pool for the women vs the men (because of the money generated by the events) and are just trying to use the #metoo movement and court of public opinion to get US Soccer to pay them even more?
I hope the arbitrator sees it for what it is, but that's doubtful
1) it's about much more than the FIFA prize money. The teams have different pay structures but it's also about pay per game, per diems, win bonuses (for all competitions, not just WC), etc.
2) Please don't lump this in with #metoo. The USWNT has been fighting this battle since the 90s (I recommend Caitlin Murphy's recent book if you want more history & context). They have made great strides by fighting this fight and whether or not you believe they already have or deserve equal pay, this has nothing to do with sexual harassment/assault and all gender issues should not be labeled as such.
Actually FIFA pays out higher % to the WC teams for the women than the men. The problem is the size of the pie.
The women's WC generates only 2.2% of the revenue that the men's WC generates. FIFA will payout almost 23% of revenue in prize money for women compared to about 6.7% for the men.
FIFA WC Revenue and Payout
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The men still pull the World Cup money wagon. The men's World Cup in Russia generated over $6 billion in revenue, with the participating teams sharing $400 million, less than 7% of revenue. Meanwhile, the Women's World Cup is expected to earn $131 million for the full four-year cycle 2019-22 and dole out $30 million to the participating teams.
The women's WC generates only 2.2% of the revenue that the men's WC generates. FIFA will payout almost 23% of revenue in prize money for women compared to about 6.7% for the men.
FIFA WC Revenue and Payout
"And liberals, being liberals, will double down on failure." - dedgod
They actually have a much better deal than the men, so it would seem.
Then the women should be blaming their union for the negotiating that into their current CBA.littlebitofhifi said:gougler08 said:
So aren't they really mad at FIFA for having a significantly smaller prize pool for the women vs the men (because of the money generated by the events) and are just trying to use the #metoo movement and court of public opinion to get US Soccer to pay them even more?
I hope the arbitrator sees it for what it is, but that's doubtful
1) it's about much more than the FIFA prize money. The teams have different pay structures but it's also about pay per game, per diems, win bonuses (for all competitions, not just WC), etc.
2) Please don't lump this in with #metoo. The USWNT has been fighting this battle since the 90s (I recommend Caitlin Murphy's recent book if you want more history & context). They have made great strides by fighting this fight and whether or not you believe they already have or deserve equal pay, this has nothing to do with sexual harassment/assault and all gender issues should not be labeled as such.
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"The male players are paid when they play, but not when they sit," McCann said. "USMNT players must thus be on the roster to be pay eligible. USWNT players, in contrast, are guaranteed pay."
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The lawsuit from the women's team sketched out the following scenario: If both teams played 20 friendlies in a year, a top-tier women's national team player would earn $164,320 less, or "38% of the compensation of a similarly situated MNT player." That was true under the previous collective-bargaining agreement that ended in December 2016.
Why did the lawsuit use numbers from old CBA when there is a new one out?Quote:
The Fact Checker obtained the new agreement, which took effect in April 2017. Using the same 20-game scenario, we calculated the player on the women's team would earn $28,333 less, or about 89 percent of the compensation of a similarly situated men's team player. If both teams lost all 20 games, the players would make the same amount. That's because the men earn a $5,000 bonus when they lose and the women have a $100,000 base salary.
The women would get the $100,000 salary even if they didn't play in any of the friendlies in the above scenario. The men would only get $100K (5K*20) if they were actually selected to all 20 friendly rosters.
USWNT 2017 CBA
"And liberals, being liberals, will double down on failure." - dedgod
There's some pretty obvious inequalities that I think *should* get solved in arbitration. Per diem is the example that comes to mind this morning.
But "equal pay" isn't feasible as long as the two teams are operating under such different agreements. If the women want equal game checks, they'll most likely have to lose some of their NWSL salary subsidies. I guess we'll see what they value more.
But "equal pay" isn't feasible as long as the two teams are operating under such different agreements. If the women want equal game checks, they'll most likely have to lose some of their NWSL salary subsidies. I guess we'll see what they value more.
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