MaxPower said:

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On the scheduling argument, this philosophy of one real OOC game and 3 cupcakes is not the way it's always been. Some past schedules:

1988 - player 4 OOC games that included 3 ranked teams (Okie St, LSU and Nebraska).

1987 and 1989 - Played LSU and Washington (both ranked top 10).

1992 - Played Stanford, LSU and Missouri.

1993 - Played LSU, Oklahoma, Missouri and Louisville (ranked top 20). Yes those were all OOC.

Prior to 1986 we only had 3 OOC games so not as common to have 2 good OOC games but we did still on occasion (Cal and Ok St in 1983, Ole Miss, Georgia and Penn St in 1980, etc).

2 cupcakes is my max. I don't care what everybody else is doing (what was that saying about the bridge?). Seems easy enough we have one turd we can drop from our schedule every year the next decade and add tu and still keep our one premiere random OOC game plus 2 cupcakes.

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Jarrin' Jay said:

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To each their own, but the vast majority of Aggies not only do not want to play them again, they don't even care.

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greg.w.h said:

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If any iterations are played those opposed to the game will feel sidelined and ignored and the ones who support getting it played will gloat. Terrible optics that can be utterly avoided by simply not scheduling it again...

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MilanoCowboy said:

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The only poll I recall to resume playing the sips is a couple that current students took. As I recall, less than 5000 voted and it was overwhelmingly to resume play.

I've never received an invitation to participate in a poll about resuming play.

Have you?

If my recollection on numbers that voted is off, please forgive me. I'm on vacation this week and started the day with bloody marys..........

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Jarrin' Jay said:

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MaxPower said:

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On the scheduling argument, this philosophy of one real OOC game and 3 cupcakes is not the way it's always been. Some past schedules:

1988 - player 4 OOC games that included 3 ranked teams (Okie St, LSU and Nebraska).

1987 and 1989 - Played LSU and Washington (both ranked top 10).

1992 - Played Stanford, LSU and Missouri.

1993 - Played LSU, Oklahoma, Missouri and Louisville (ranked top 20). Yes those were all OOC.

Prior to 1986 we only had 3 OOC games so not as common to have 2 good OOC games but we did still on occasion (Cal and Ok St in 1983, Ole Miss, Georgia and Penn St in 1980, etc).

2 cupcakes is my max. I don't care what everybody else is doing (what was that saying about the bridge?). Seems easy enough we have one turd we can drop from our schedule every year the next decade and add tu and still keep our one premiere random OOC game plus 2 cupcakes.

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1) college football and the dynamics of conferences, schedules, and resulting bowls are completely different now. In those years we could have lost every non-con game and still gotten to the Cotton Bowl, a major bowl game. Technically that is still true (to the Sugar Bowl) but not when you consider the conference we play in and the level of competition, as....

2) in all those years we also had 3-4 games against really poor SWC teams like Rice, tcu, smu, baylor, cougar high. When we play a bad Miss. State or Vandy team now they are much better that those teams we played in the past seasons.



I just don't understand Aggies that need any type of validation, self-worth defining gratification, etc. of playing and beating UT Longhorns. Ever year we get to play Bama, LSU, Auburn and a good traditional old SWC rival Arkansas, and good games vs. Ole Miss. and Miss State that are usually better than half the Big 12, then add in we get to play Georgia, Florida, Tennessee. Our Ath. Dept. has done an excellent job with strong and good non-con games vs. Clemson, Colorado, Miami, Notre Dame, etc. Why do we have to play cow?

To each their own, but the vast majority of Aggies not only do not want to play them again, they don't even care.

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levypantsEOY said:

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MilanoCowboy said:

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The only poll I recall to resume playing the sips is a couple that current students took. As I recall, less than 5000 voted and it was overwhelmingly to resume play.

I've never received an invitation to participate in a poll about resuming play.

Have you?

If my recollection on numbers that voted is off, please forgive me. I'm on vacation this week and started the day with bloody marys..........

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Your numbers are off. Per the Dallas Morning News and a poll taken this time last year:

"On Friday night, results from Texas A&M's spring student body elections showed that 88.71 percent (13,359) of 15,060 voters said "Yes" when asked if they were in favor of bringing the game back as a non-conference matchup. 6.18 percent (931) of voters said "No" while 3.84 percent (578) voted "Indifferent" and 1.4 (192) said "Not sure."

In September 2017, the same question was asked in a university-wide referendum at Texas and of 7,761 voters, 96.71 percent said "Yes" when asked if they were in favor of bringing the game back or not."

But who cares what students think when we have a collection of angry boomers in the zoo screaming about how over those lyin rootin tootin sips they are.

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MaxPower said:

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Jarrin' Jay said:

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MaxPower said:

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On the scheduling argument, this philosophy of one real OOC game and 3 cupcakes is not the way it's always been. Some past schedules:

1988 - player 4 OOC games that included 3 ranked teams (Okie St, LSU and Nebraska).

1987 and 1989 - Played LSU and Washington (both ranked top 10).

1992 - Played Stanford, LSU and Missouri.

1993 - Played LSU, Oklahoma, Missouri and Louisville (ranked top 20). Yes those were all OOC.

Prior to 1986 we only had 3 OOC games so not as common to have 2 good OOC games but we did still on occasion (Cal and Ok St in 1983, Ole Miss, Georgia and Penn St in 1980, etc).

2 cupcakes is my max. I don't care what everybody else is doing (what was that saying about the bridge?). Seems easy enough we have one turd we can drop from our schedule every year the next decade and add tu and still keep our one premiere random OOC game plus 2 cupcakes.

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1) college football and the dynamics of conferences, schedules, and resulting bowls are completely different now. In those years we could have lost every non-con game and still gotten to the Cotton Bowl, a major bowl game. Technically that is still true (to the Sugar Bowl) but not when you consider the conference we play in and the level of competition, as....

2) in all those years we also had 3-4 games against really poor SWC teams like Rice, tcu, smu, baylor, cougar high. When we play a bad Miss. State or Vandy team now they are much better that those teams we played in the past seasons.



I just don't understand Aggies that need any type of validation, self-worth defining gratification, etc. of playing and beating UT Longhorns. Ever year we get to play Bama, LSU, Auburn and a good traditional old SWC rival Arkansas, and good games vs. Ole Miss. and Miss State that are usually better than half the Big 12, then add in we get to play Georgia, Florida, Tennessee. Our Ath. Dept. has done an excellent job with strong and good non-con games vs. Clemson, Colorado, Miami, Notre Dame, etc. Why do we have to play cow?

To each their own, but the vast majority of Aggies not only do not want to play them again, they don't even care.

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Look at programs from other conferences as well. Big Ten schools similarly played tough OOC games. I agree times have changed, but for the worse. Not only do we finish 7-5 or 8-4 most of the time, we do so while as fans having to watch 3 garbage games a year. Beyond my own fan experience and that of other Aggies', the increase in coverage from another big game EVERY year far outweighs the minute chance that big game is the difference in making the playoffs or not. Hell, we have a natty worthy team once every what? 25 years? 50 years? Add on top of that if our team is that good we likely beat them anyway and it actually helps us make the playoffs from a strength of schedule standpoint.

Besides, you know and I know that isn't the real reason AD's schedule these garbage games. It's all about money. They can get near sellouts playing preseason warmup games without having to exchange a precious away game. As long as knuckleheads will pay to eat that garbage that's what they will feed them.

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Sterling82 said:

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The Student's opinions are irrelevant because student activities on campus aren't for the students. They're for us. It's a FOOTBALL GAME.

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NoahAg said:

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Cullen is right.

Florida-FSU
Iowa-ISU
Clemson-SC
CU-CSU

Now is the best time to bring it back.

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MaxPower said:

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I've seen several folks say the majority of Ags don't want this game. Every actual poll I've seen is to the contrary, often overwhelmingly so. If there is actual evidence the majority don't want this game then by all means don't have it. But it seems to me the average Ag DOES want the game. It's just that the minority a) is more vocal about their opinion and b) has more butt hurt cigars with real influence.

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This is true ^

Every poll I've seen generally ends up with over 80% of those who voted being in favor of the game, INCLUDING A&M's official poll of students last spring. The majority of those on TexAgs don't want it, the vast majority of those outside do according to the different polls I've seen.

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