RealTalk said:

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Kyle Allen is 2-0 against former Aggie QBs.

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Kyle Allen could very well have the best NFL career of all Aggie QBs.

LatinAggie1997 said:

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RealTalk said:

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Kyle Allen is 2-0 against former Aggie QBs.

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Kyle Allen could very well have the best NFL career of all Aggie QBs.

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That is a sad indictment of our history (lack thereof) of producing NFL QBs. No offense to Kyle.

Also, to my surprise, Kyler's NFL career will be >>>> Kyle's.

NoahAg said:

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Also, to my surprise, Kyler's NFL career will be >>>> Kyle's.

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Based on what? Kyle is 5-1, Kyler is 3-5

infinity ag said:

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mugwurt said:

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NoahAg said:

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Also, to my surprise, Kyler's NFL career will be >>>> Kyle's.

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Based on what? Kyle is 5-1, Kyler is 3-5

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Based on Noah's personal hatred for Kyle. KA left the team to escape the toxic freak show that Sumlin ran and now many of us here blame him for fighting the bad cards he was dealt with and trying to make something of himself.

I am rooting for Kyle. And Kyler.

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LOL. I don't hate either of them, but I'm not gonna claim them as "Aggies." Bottom line: They both quit on their team before the season was over.

As for their careers, of course Kyle has a better record. He's on a better team, with better players around him, with a better coach. If you conducted an anonymous poll of NFL coaches how many would take Kyle over Kyler?

KA, being a typical pocket passer, would be in higher demand.

LatinAggie1997 said:

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RealTalk said:

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Kyle Allen is 2-0 against former Aggie QBs.

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Kyle Allen could very well have the best NFL career of all Aggie QBs.

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He could. I really didn't think he had much shot at it. Good for him.

NoahAg said:

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infinity ag said:

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mugwurt said:

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NoahAg said:

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Also, to my surprise, Kyler's NFL career will be >>>> Kyle's.

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Based on what? Kyle is 5-1, Kyler is 3-5

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Based on Noah's personal hatred for Kyle. KA left the team to escape the toxic freak show that Sumlin ran and now many of us here blame him for fighting the bad cards he was dealt with and trying to make something of himself.

I am rooting for Kyle. And Kyler.

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LOL. I don't hate either of them, but I'm not gonna claim them as "Aggies." Bottom line: They both quit on their team before the season was over.

As for their careers, of course Kyle has a better record. He's on a better team, with better players around him, with a better coach. If you conducted an anonymous poll of NFL coaches how many would take Kyle over Kyler?

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At this point, I would guess a fair number would, certainly those who don't run a KK style offense. The few Cardinals games I have watched, 90% of Kyler's passes were screens or under 5 yards.

LatinAggie1997 said:

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RealTalk said:

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Kyle Allen is 2-0 against former Aggie QBs.

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Kyle Allen could very well have the best NFL career of all Aggie QBs.

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I don't know, Gary Kubiak had a pretty good career. How many QBs can claim they held the clipboard for John Elway.

With his Oline, that's all he has time for.

And the crappiness of their Oline is why I thought Kyler would struggle. He has actually done fairly well considering this.

Looks like Cam Newton is out for the season, so KA will be starting the rest of the year.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/28013787/panthers-qb-cam-newton-placed-injured-reserve-foot-injury

Tannahill has been pretty good.

Kyle Allen is the football version of Alex Caruso, change my mind.

Varmint23 said:

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Kyle Allen is the football version of Alex Caruso, change my mind.

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Can you explain what you mean by that first? I don't see the correlation.

mugwurt said:

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Looks like Cam Newton is out for the season, so KA will be starting the rest of the year.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/28013787/panthers-qb-cam-newton-placed-injured-reserve-foot-injury

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And pretty unlikely Cam ever returns to the Panthers...

HoustonAg2106 said:

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Varmint23 said:

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Kyle Allen is the football version of Alex Caruso, change my mind.

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Can you explain what you mean by that first? I don't see the correlation.

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Varmint23 said:

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Kyle Allen is the football version of Alex Caruso, change my mind.

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Other than they have nothing in common - sure?

Varmint23 said:

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Kyle Allen is the football version of Alex Caruso, change my mind.

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Ok Varmint.

Varmint23 said:

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Kyle Allen is the football version of Alex Caruso, change my mind.

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Hmmm...was Caruso a 5* recruit?

As I've stated before, Kyle Allen has a much better arm than Kyler Murray. That said, Murray would likely have been better under Sumlin, but Allen would be fantastic under Jimbo.

I'm not sure why Sumlin even wanted the top rated pro-style QB for his system.

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In all fairness, Sumlin completely fubar'd the QB room at A&M and as a result we gave him a $15 million check for it.

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I hear he invited Taggart over and they had quite a chuckle about it..

More proof that Vegans heal slow.

3 INT today.

He's a five star quarterback. He knows it. It's the coaches fault. He's going to jump ship and find another team. He believes in himself.

This happens all the time in the NFL. An unheralded QB has a great few games, everybody is talking about him, and then he tanks.

Once other teams get 4-5 games of film on a QB who isn't very good, they will start getting the better of him.

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Varmint23 said:

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Kyle Allen is the football version of Alex Caruso, change my mind.

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Hmmm...was Caruso a 5* recruit?

As I've stated before, Kyle Allen has a much better arm than Kyler Murray. That said, Murray would likely have been better under Sumlin, but Allen would be fantastic under Jimbo.

I'm not sure why Sumlin even wanted the top rated pro-style QB for his system.

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Wanted to recruit his way to wins since he's better at that than coaching.

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LatinAggie1997 said:

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RealTalk said:

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Kyle Allen is 2-0 against former Aggie QBs.

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Kyle Allen could very well have the best NFL career of all Aggie QBs.

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I don't know, Gary Kubiak had a pretty good career. How many QBs can claim they held the clipboard for John Elway.

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total number of game checks cashed
Unlikely anybody catches Kubiak

Sponge said:

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KA, being a typical pocket passer, would be in higher demand.

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Apparently you haven't noticed but Kyler is throwing primarily from the pocket. Of course he is flushed from the pocket some because his offensive line is the worst in the league. I'm amazed that he is still in the top half of the league in passing percentage after 14 games.

T-Shizzle said:

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Bwahahaha well what about all the defensive players Sumlin recruited here? That went on to the NFL
Davante Harris, Dashawn Hall, Myles Garrett, Zay Henderson, Armani Watts, Justin Evans, Donovan Wilson, Otaro Alaka, Tyrell Dodson, Brandon Williams, Kingsley Keke,!

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You think Sumlin recruited DEFENSIVE players? That's cute.


Hint: those players came here because of John Chavis...

PneumAg said:

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This happens all the time in the NFL. An unheralded QB has a great few games, everybody is talking about him, and then he tanks.

Once other teams get 4-5 games of film on a QB who isn't very good, they will start getting the better of him.

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yep, the bloom came off the rose about 6 weeks ago.

15 picks in his last 8 games plus one fired head coach

No matter what happens from this point on, he still had a better run in the NFL than I thought he would after he couldn't hold the starting job at UofH.

I think his moment of playing well also bought him another two or three years to hang around the league as a backup.

Benched for Will Grier. 15 Int and 13 fumbles (7 lost) in 10 starts doomed him. If he could cut down on the turnovers maybe he could be a decent game manager.

I wouldn't give up on the kid just yet. If he'd get his interceptions under control, he'd be in pretty good standing. I'd like to see him play against the Colts and Saints to wrap up the season. I think he could handle the Colts, and his last game against the Saints (although a loss) was one of his best games of the season.

Here are his stats vs. the former Heisman Trophy winner.

CAM NEWTON - Last 13 Starts
W Giants 237 passing yards, 2 TD, 2 INT
L Redskins 275 passing yards, 2 TD, 1 INT
W Eagles 269 passing yards, 2 TD, 0 INT
W Ravens 219 passing yards, 2 TD, 0 INT, 1 rushing TD
W Bucs 247 passing yards, 2 TD, 0 INT
L Steelers 193 passing yards, 2 TD, 1 INT
L Lions 357 passing yards, 3 TD, 1 INT
L Seahawks 256 passing yards, 2 TD, 1 INT
L Bucs 300 passing yards, 2 TD, 4 INT
L Browns 265 passing yards, 0 TD, 1 INT
L Saints 131 passing yards, 0 TD, 1 INT
L Rams 239 passing yards, 0 TD, 1 INT
L Bucs 333 passing yards, 0 TD, 0 INT

13 Games (4-9) 3,321 passing yards, 19 TD, 13 INT, 1 rushing TD
Average 255 passing yards per game.
Cam's 2019 salary... $23,200,000

KYLE ALLEN - Last 13 Starts
W Saints 228 passing yards, 2 TD, 0 INT, 1 rushing TD
W (Cardinals 261 passing yards, 4 TD, 0 INT
W Texans 232 passing yards, 0 TD, 0 INT
W Jaguars 181 passing yards, 1 TD, 0 INT
W Bucs 227 passing yards, 2 TD, 0 INT
L 49ers 158 passing yards, 0 TD, 3 INT
W Titans 232 passing yards, 2 TD, 1 INT
L Green Bay 307 passing yards, 1 TD, 1 INT
L Falcons 325 passing yards, 0 TD, 4 INT
L Saints 256 passing yards, 3 TD, 0 INT
L Redskins 278 passing yards, 2 TD, 1 INT, 1 rushing TD
L Falcons 293 passing yards, 1 TD, 2 INT, 1 rushing TD
L Seahawks 277 passing yards, 1 TD, 3 INT

13 Games (6-7) 3,255 passing yards, 19 TD, 15 INT, 3 rushing TD
Average 250 passing yards per game.
Kyle's 2019 Salary $495,000