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Kyle Allen
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Last: 4 yr ago by schmellba99
You make a good point.
Looking at the official NFL 2019 stats, Kyle ranks as follows:
The Good:
#13 with 252.3 yards passing per game (#12 is Brady)
#17 with 3,027 passing yards
#20 with 17 passing touchdowns (tie w/ Tannehill, Trubisky, Goff, Mayfield, Donald, Murray & Minshew)
#21 with 62.1% completions
The Bad:
#4 with 15 interceptions (tie with Jared Goff)
The Ugly:
#1 with 393 sack yards lost
#2 with 45 sacks
#28 in RTG (but better than Mayfield, LOL)
#30 in QBR
The Good:
#13 with 252.3 yards passing per game (#12 is Brady)
#17 with 3,027 passing yards
#20 with 17 passing touchdowns (tie w/ Tannehill, Trubisky, Goff, Mayfield, Donald, Murray & Minshew)
#21 with 62.1% completions
The Bad:
#4 with 15 interceptions (tie with Jared Goff)
The Ugly:
#1 with 393 sack yards lost
#2 with 45 sacks
#28 in RTG (but better than Mayfield, LOL)
#30 in QBR
Flashdiaz said:
Sherman would not have started Manziel in 2012 and Johnny Football would have gone somewhere else.
There is no real way to know that is a fact or not. Johnny didn't even win the starting gig until fall practice.
Keep in mind he wasn't starting from week 1.
Re-signs with Panthers for another year.
$585k. league minimum. surprised that low
but as exclusive rights free agent, he had no negotiating power
but as exclusive rights free agent, he had no negotiating power
zephyr88 said:
Looking at the official NFL 2019 stats, Kyle ranks as follows:
The Good:
#13 with 252.3 yards passing per game (#12 is Brady)
#17 with 3,027 passing yards
#20 with 17 passing touchdowns (tie w/ Tannehill, Trubisky, Goff, Mayfield, Donald, Murray & Minshew)
#21 with 62.1% completions
The Bad:
#4 with 15 interceptions (tie with Jared Goff)
The Ugly:
#1 with 393 sack yards lost
#2 with 45 sacks
#28 in RTG (but better than Mayfield, LOL)
#30 in QBR
Where does Kyle rank at QB fumbles? I live in NC and the Panthers are my team and who is broadcast here. I know Kyle had fumbles along with the interceptions but those turnovers get jumbled up together. Also, how many turnovers returned for 6 points? I seem to recall some of that too.
Not meant as a bashing of Kyle. I want him to do well as long as he is a Panther.
Shame on you Sumlin,
infinity ag said:
Shame on you Sumlin,
Cannot be repeated enough.
Kyle Allen had his opportunities. While sumlin was to blame Kyle was to blame too
This wasn't Reggie Fran as much as the Kyle affluenza crowd on TexAgs would like to think
Kyle Allen was injured and sent back o to the field when doctors should have never let him back onto the field! That isn't on Allen....
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Well, the magical year is over... kid played hard. Still living his dream. Maybe the Redskins' opportunity will be good for him. It's not like there's anyone there who's solidly leading the team.
Geez, he's still very young. This is a great opportunity for him.
Kyle's back with Coach Rivera now.
Dwayne Haskins better QB than Allen?Viper16 said:
Kyle's back with Coach Rivera now.
Maybe not. Rivera hedging his bet.
Kyle Allen lost his job at A&M, got benched at UH, got benched with the panthers, and is now third string with the redskins.
Rivera needed a QB familiar with his system.
Rivera needed a QB familiar with his system.
According to the Biden White House, what Joe Biden says does not represent the official position of the Biden administration.
Even with all of that - he's in the NFL. Probably making more than the NFL minimum, which is $720,000 for a 3 year guy. I'd say that even with everything - he's doing pretty solid compared to the overwhelming majority of the country. And you.ironmanag said:
Kyle Allenlost his job atwas never given a real shot at A&M, got benched at UH, came off the bench when the starting QB quit on his team mid season and played well, then got benched with the panthers, and is now third string with the redskins.
Rivera needed a QB familiar with his system.
I really don't get the hate for a kid like Allen, who was 100% screwed over by the staff at A&M and did what 100% of the people looking to further their career would have done and find better opportunities elsewhere. I just don't get it.
Both Kyle Allen and Kyler Murray were severely mismanaged at Texas A&M.
This is the main reason Sumlin was fired after his success which was hugely based on Johnny F.
Ironically, this enabled Texas A&M to wind up with Jimbo and be relevant again.
* I feel good saying this.
This is the main reason Sumlin was fired after his success which was hugely based on Johnny F.
Ironically, this enabled Texas A&M to wind up with Jimbo and be relevant again.
* I feel good saying this.
Kyle Allen played well for the Panthers. He will not be third string at Washington. He will probably be their day one starter.
Were they? Not trying to be snarky, but back when this was going on, I was in the middle of life stuff (end of marriage/divorce and winning/taking on primary custody of my son). I didn't contribute or even lurk on any boards then and I'm wondering what the consensus is on what actually happened with them?Southlake said:
Both Kyle Allen and Kyler Murray were severely mismanaged at Texas A&M.
This is the main reason Sumlin was fired after his success which was hugely based on Johnny F.
Ironically, this enabled Texas A&M to wind up with Jimbo and be relevant again.
* I feel good saying this.
I've had more than one sip and boomer give me grief over Murray.
Quote:
Were they?
Yes
Yes per Jake Hubenak.jsmc71 said:Were they? Not trying to be snarky, but back when this was going on, I was in the middle of life stuff (end of marriage/divorce and winning/taking on primary custody of my son). I didn't contribute or even lurk on any boards then and I'm wondering what the consensus is on what actually happened with them?Southlake said:
Both Kyle Allen and Kyler Murray were severely mismanaged at Texas A&M.
This is the main reason Sumlin was fired after his success which was hugely based on Johnny F.
Ironically, this enabled Texas A&M to wind up with Jimbo and be relevant again.
* I feel good saying this.
I've had more than one sip and boomer give me grief over Murray.
https://texags.com/s/28049/qb-chaos-an-inside-account-of-the-tumultuous-2015-texas-am-season
No. The main reason Sumlin was fired was because we lost too many games. We could have burned every 5-star recruit in the country in one season, but if we win the national champion that year, the coach will not be fired.Southlake said:
Both Kyle Allen and Kyler Murray were severely mismanaged at Texas A&M.
This is the main reason Sumlin was fired after his success which was hugely based on Johnny F.
Ironically, this enabled Texas A&M to wind up with Jimbo and be relevant again.
* I feel good saying this.
I'm with you. I don't get the hate either. At this point he's proven that he can be a quality backup in the NFL. He may just end up with a long and lucrative career doing just that (after all, look at Chase Daniel). Good for the kid.schmellba99 said:Even with all of that - he's in the NFL. Probably making more than the NFL minimum, which is $720,000 for a 3 year guy. I'd say that even with everything - he's doing pretty solid compared to the overwhelming majority of the country. And you.ironmanag said:
Kyle Allenlost his job atwas never given a real shot at A&M, got benched at UH, came off the bench when the starting QB quit on his team mid season and played well, then got benched with the panthers, and is now third string with the redskins.
Rivera needed a QB familiar with his system.
I really don't get the hate for a kid like Allen, who was 100% screwed over by the staff at A&M and did what 100% of the people looking to further their career would have done and find better opportunities elsewhere. I just don't get it.
Allen for sure. He was having a great season, then got injured (not just banged up a little, an injury). He suddenly went from a great completion percentage to struggling. Sumlin chose not to give him time to heal before putting him back on the field.jsmc71 said:Were they? Not trying to be snarky, but back when this was going on, I was in the middle of life stuff (end of marriage/divorce and winning/taking on primary custody of my son). I didn't contribute or even lurk on any boards then and I'm wondering what the consensus is on what actually happened with them?Southlake said:
Both Kyle Allen and Kyler Murray were severely mismanaged at Texas A&M.
This is the main reason Sumlin was fired after his success which was hugely based on Johnny F.
Ironically, this enabled Texas A&M to wind up with Jimbo and be relevant again.
* I feel good saying this.
I've had more than one sip and boomer give me grief over Murray.
RealTalk said:Yes per Jake Hubenak.jsmc71 said:Were they? Not trying to be snarky, but back when this was going on, I was in the middle of life stuff (end of marriage/divorce and winning/taking on primary custody of my son). I didn't contribute or even lurk on any boards then and I'm wondering what the consensus is on what actually happened with them?Southlake said:
Both Kyle Allen and Kyler Murray were severely mismanaged at Texas A&M.
This is the main reason Sumlin was fired after his success which was hugely based on Johnny F.
Ironically, this enabled Texas A&M to wind up with Jimbo and be relevant again.
* I feel good saying this.
I've had more than one sip and boomer give me grief over Murray.
https://texags.com/s/28049/qb-chaos-an-inside-account-of-the-tumultuous-2015-texas-am-season
Who's a nice guy but wasn't privy to all that was going on behind the scenes with the coaching staff.
Still, had we won more more games, Sumlin may still be on our sidelines.
I've thought more than once that a movie set in the QB room with Sumlin, Allen, and Murray would be really interesting.
Kevin Hart as SumlinQuad Dog said:
I've thought more than once that a movie set in the QB room with Sumlin, Allen, and Murray would be really interesting.
Jayden Smith as Kyler and Will Smith as his daddy
And Kyle Allen as himself, because in all honesty, he's probably going to need the work about then.
Guarantee you that Hubenak was just a tad bit closer and more involved and educated on the coaching and player handling situation than anybody on this board was.agz win said:RealTalk said:Yes per Jake Hubenak.jsmc71 said:Were they? Not trying to be snarky, but back when this was going on, I was in the middle of life stuff (end of marriage/divorce and winning/taking on primary custody of my son). I didn't contribute or even lurk on any boards then and I'm wondering what the consensus is on what actually happened with them?Southlake said:
Both Kyle Allen and Kyler Murray were severely mismanaged at Texas A&M.
This is the main reason Sumlin was fired after his success which was hugely based on Johnny F.
Ironically, this enabled Texas A&M to wind up with Jimbo and be relevant again.
* I feel good saying this.
I've had more than one sip and boomer give me grief over Murray.
https://texags.com/s/28049/qb-chaos-an-inside-account-of-the-tumultuous-2015-texas-am-season
Who's a nice guy but wasn't privy to all that was going on behind the scenes with the coaching staff.
Still, had we won more more games, Sumlin may still be on our sidelines.
He laid it out in his op-ed, and didn't leave anything really to the imagination with respect to abject failure by the coaching staff. Seriously, arguing otherwise is just being silly and stubborn.
has there ever been a situation in NCAA history where the two people fighting for starting job both transferred within a month of one another?
how can anyone still argue the situation was not handled horribly?
how can anyone still argue the situation was not handled horribly?
They can't, logically. It's 100% a case of wanting to blame somebody other than the actual source of the problem, or the inability to admit being wrong. I'm guessing the latter is the majority of it.BMX Bandit said:
has there ever been a situation in NCAA history where the two people fighting for starting job both transferred within a month of one another?
how can anyone still argue the situation was not handled horribly?
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